I miss the Soviet Union.

[Morbid]

it doesnt matter how you call it but for many centuries there were strategical conflicts between sea hegemonies (anglo-american establishment) and land hegemonies (golden orda, osmanian, russian empires etc). during most world conflicts there were only two sides to choose from. historically the west (sea) accumulates capital through trade etc. but the east (land) aquires huge power in terms of politics, social fabric of citizens etc. that is exact reasons why we have coups and revolutions everywhere - its the masters of capital not letting any country to become big enough through social status of its citizens. you dont need the country to be wealthy to be strong. the battered up country would have agile people, comfortable countries full of capital have to buy strenght. they know their weakness so its top priority to them to get rid of powerful leaders. the discharge of power is usually presented in full on war. now as we can see in the west capital is at its peak. but on the other side the masses have huge will to defend their rights, ready to fight. there is huge disbalance. unfortunately another war is imminent. this coming war will be against ruling class of multinationals. the resistance will be led by handful of countries representing the people.

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[bryant.coleman]

Here is a comparison of the USSR and the Russian Fed (RF)

USSR:

1. No immigration from parasite states to Moscow and other cities
2. Free healthcare, but long queues.
3. No corruption among cops, and other public servants. But lot of corruption among the top Communist officials.

RF:

1. Moscow and other cities are now coping with millions of non-white immigrants
2. Expensive healthcare
3. Cops, doctors, nurses.... everyone is corrupt.

[niothor]

Here is a comparison of the USSR and the Russian Fed (RF)

USSR:

1. No immigration from parasite states to Moscow and other cities
2. Free healthcare, but long queues.
3. No corruption among cops, and other public servants. But lot of corruption among the top Communist officials.

RF:

1. Moscow and other cities are now coping with millions of non-white immigrants
2. Expensive healthcare
3. Cops, doctors, nurses.... everyone is corrupt.

I'm pretty sure you know  that because you lived there , isn't that?
In every damn communist country everyone was corrupt ,not just police or doctors .. everybody was trying to get some money out of their position.

[Nemo1024]

While that is true, the corruption was not so "in your face", not so obvious. You would give a box of chocolates to a teacher from time to time, but you weren't expected to do so and definitely not giving money. Nowadays you can barely expect to get medical service unless you pay double of what is in the price list.
(And yes, I lived there. Didn't see much of the corruption unless you really needed to have something done high up in the food chain.)

[Wilikon]

Here is a comparison of the USSR and the Russian Fed (RF)

USSR:

1. No immigration from parasite states to Moscow and other cities
2. Free healthcare, but long queues.
3. No corruption among cops, and other public servants. But lot of corruption among the top Communist officials.

RF:

1. Moscow and other cities are now coping with millions of non-white immigrants
2. Expensive healthcare
3. Cops, doctors, nurses.... everyone is corrupt.

So people DO miss the Soviet Union...

[Kiki112]

Here is a comparison of the USSR and the Russian Fed (RF)

USSR:

1. No immigration from parasite states to Moscow and other cities
2. Free healthcare, but long queues.
3. No corruption among cops, and other public servants. But lot of corruption among the top Communist officials.

RF:

1. Moscow and other cities are now coping with millions of non-white immigrants
2. Expensive healthcare
3. Cops, doctors, nurses.... everyone is corrupt.

So people DO miss the Soviet Union...

there will always be people who miss it, mostly ethnic Russians and Serbians but others who were in the USSR and Yugoslavia despise it

there are people who like it but are mostly mixed between nations in that country and they still consider themselvs USSRs citzens or Yugoslavs

good thing, they're a minority

[Wilikon]

Here is a comparison of the USSR and the Russian Fed (RF)

USSR:

1. No immigration from parasite states to Moscow and other cities
2. Free healthcare, but long queues.
3. No corruption among cops, and other public servants. But lot of corruption among the top Communist officials.

RF:

1. Moscow and other cities are now coping with millions of non-white immigrants
2. Expensive healthcare
3. Cops, doctors, nurses.... everyone is corrupt.

So people DO miss the Soviet Union...

there will always be people who miss it, mostly ethnic Russians and Serbians but others who were in the USSR and Yugoslavia despise it

there are people who like it but are mostly mixed between nations in that country and they still consider themselvs USSRs citzens or Yugoslavs

good thing, they're a minority

I would include hipsters born long after the fact, never been part of the Eastern Bloc, living in Brooklyn.

[bryant.coleman]

While that is true, the corruption was not so "in your face", not so obvious. You would give a box of chocolates to a teacher from time to time, but you weren't expected to do so and definitely not giving money. Nowadays you can barely expect to get medical service unless you pay double of what is in the price list.
(And yes, I lived there. Didn't see much of the corruption unless you really needed to have something done high up in the food chain.)

That was the point I made. The corruption wasn't much prevalent among the lower levels.

[minorkacologne]

There is like no logic in this statement.

Read some history books (published by neutral authors), you wont miss Soviet Union any more.

[Wilikon]

There is like no logic in this statement.

Read some history books (published by neutral authors), you wont miss Soviet Union any more.

I never did.

Someone at salon.com did
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/communism_saved_the_american_worker_how_soviet_competition_raised_our_living_standards/

[Bit_Happy]

We have yet to see (real) Capitalism being used properly either.

That is the real problem. The real capitalism is not used anywhere. For example, in the US, it is Socialism being dished out after re branded as Capitalism.

That's the problem with all : socialism , communism , capitalism etc...In theory all sound ok. In real life , humans find a way to f*** it so good you need to invent a new concept.

Say no to "-ism"s!  

Now really , English is the fourth foreign language I learned but...is there any -ism word that describes something nice ? I can't think of any right now.

Libertarianism is "nice" some of the time. 

Until somebody tries it in real life at a large scale and we can all guess how it will end.

You can guess all you want.
Most of the world will be thrilled the Gov is no longer stealing from the poor/middle classes and giving to the rich.

[coins4commies]

RE: TECSHARE saying all leftist ideology is the same.  


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_uprisings_against_the_Bolsheviks#Background
Its always left out of the discussion but the civil war included heavy resistance to the Bolsheviks from the left. Imagine fighting people who have exactly the same ideology.

Lenin on the Krondstadt rebelliion

"undoubtedly more dangerous than Denikin, Yudenich, and Kolchak combined."

He said it was the greatest threat to the bolsheviks

Here is a list of Krondstadt demands

Immediate new elections to the Soviets; the present Soviets no longer express the wishes of the workers and peasants. The new elections should be held by secret ballot, and should be preceded by free electoral propaganda for all workers and peasants before the elections.
Freedom of speech and of the press for workers and peasants, for the Anarchists, and for the Left Socialist parties.
The right of assembly, and freedom for trade union and peasant associations.
The organisation, at the latest on 10 March 1921, of a Conference of non-Party workers, soldiers and sailors of Petrograd, Kronstadt and the Petrograd District.
The liberation of all political prisoners of the Socialist parties, and of all imprisoned workers and peasants, soldiers and sailors belonging to working class and peasant organisations.
The election of a commission to look into the dossiers of all those detained in prisons and concentration camps.
The abolition of all political sections in the armed forces; no political party should have privileges for the propagation of its ideas, or receive State subsidies to this end. In place of the political section, various cultural groups should be set up, deriving resources from the State.
The immediate abolition of the militia detachments set up between towns and countryside.
The equalisation of rations for all workers, except those engaged in dangerous or unhealthy jobs.
The abolition of Party combat detachments in all military groups; the abolition of Party guards in factories and enterprises. If guards are required, they should be nominated, taking into account the views of the workers.
The granting to the peasants of freedom of action on their own soil, and of the right to own cattle, provided they look after them themselves and do not employ hired labour.
We request that all military units and officer trainee groups associate themselves with this resolution.
We demand that the Press give proper publicity to this resolution.
We demand the institution of mobile workers' control groups.
We demand that handicraft production be authorised, provided it does not utilise wage labour.[8]

[KingScorpio]

lol soviet union, and nazi germany (american capitalists main enemies) were main guarantee that protected american labourers, from the current capitalist scam they live under, next will be the cryptoscam, in which all money printing americans (so called "coin offerers" will try to live on the back of those that are still so stupid to "work"


without its enemies (nazis, sovietunion, and radical islamism, slavery)

the united states becomes nothing more than just a communist banking that tries to enslave everyone to its money printing press.

[af_newbie]

I miss the Soviet Union. I never visited the country during its 72 years of existence, and I didn’t much like what I read about it in late-Cold War newspapers and library copies of Soviet Life: the long queues for bread, the military parades presided over by impassive bemedaled field marshals, the kitschy tributes to dictators, the Olympians inflated by performance-enhancing drugs. Communism, with its denial of both God and the individual, never appealed to me as a way of life, and I doubt it was much good for the Russian worker, the Polish worker, the East German worker, or the Yugoslavian worker.

Communism was, however, fantastic for the American worker. It’s no coincidence that the golden age of American equality, that period from the 1940s to the 1970s when the gap between CEOs and employees hit its all-time low, was almost exactly coterminous with the Cold War. As any capitalist will tell you, competition is good for the marketplace. It forces businesses to create better products and more efficient services for consumers. The same is true for capitalism itself: as a means of raising the living standards of an entire society, it never functioned better than when it was forced to compete with a rival economic system. [...]

An economy without a marketplace will produce only the bare minimum necessary for survival. But capitalism, in its rawest form, leads to the same result. Unless tempered by unionization or a social welfare state, the iron law of wages reduces the majority of workers to a subsistence level, while creating vast wealth for a tiny ownership class. Ronald Reagan advanced a false dichotomy between Communism and capitalism that is still with us, 25 years after his presidency ended. It’s true, as Louise Bryant said in “Reds,” that Communism would never have worked in the United States — but capitalism isn’t working as well without it.

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/communism_saved_the_american_worker_how_soviet_competition_raised_our_living_standards/

Be careful what you wish for.  The US is heading in this direction.

This time it will the US turn to have millions die of starvation, isolate themselves from the rest of the world, build (Berlin like) walls etc.

Majority of young people in the US are ready for communism and would embrace this system with open arms, the ones who will be against it will be killed or marginalized, IMHO. 

These changes can happen within a generation or two, so be careful what you wish for.

Communism is evil, no matter where in the world it exists.

[KingScorpio]

I miss the Soviet Union. I never visited the country during its 72 years of existence, and I didn’t much like what I read about it in late-Cold War newspapers and library copies of Soviet Life: the long queues for bread, the military parades presided over by impassive bemedaled field marshals, the kitschy tributes to dictators, the Olympians inflated by performance-enhancing drugs. Communism, with its denial of both God and the individual, never appealed to me as a way of life, and I doubt it was much good for the Russian worker, the Polish worker, the East German worker, or the Yugoslavian worker.

Communism was, however, fantastic for the American worker. It’s no coincidence that the golden age of American equality, that period from the 1940s to the 1970s when the gap between CEOs and employees hit its all-time low, was almost exactly coterminous with the Cold War. As any capitalist will tell you, competition is good for the marketplace. It forces businesses to create better products and more efficient services for consumers. The same is true for capitalism itself: as a means of raising the living standards of an entire society, it never functioned better than when it was forced to compete with a rival economic system. [...]

An economy without a marketplace will produce only the bare minimum necessary for survival. But capitalism, in its rawest form, leads to the same result. Unless tempered by unionization or a social welfare state, the iron law of wages reduces the majority of workers to a subsistence level, while creating vast wealth for a tiny ownership class. Ronald Reagan advanced a false dichotomy between Communism and capitalism that is still with us, 25 years after his presidency ended. It’s true, as Louise Bryant said in “Reds,” that Communism would never have worked in the United States — but capitalism isn’t working as well without it.

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/communism_saved_the_american_worker_how_soviet_competition_raised_our_living_standards/

Be careful what you wish for.  The US is heading in this direction.

This time it will the US turn to have millions die of starvation, isolate themselves from the rest of the world, build (Berlin like) walls etc.

Majority of young people in the US are ready for communism and would embrace this system with open arms, the ones who will be against it will be killed or marginalized, IMHO.  

These changes can happen within a generation or two, so be careful what you wish for.

Communism is evil, no matter where in the world it exists.

exactly my observation, future soviet union is the us banking cartel,

the equity billionaires, and property billionaires, and the dependend urban population will try to save themselves from decentralisation by creating a socialist union of amerika

[KingScorpio]

Everyone who is loving freedom and crypto cant miss the communists. Communism was a slavery for all freedom loving people.

crypto is no freedom its currently the enslavement by the owners and opperators of the global cryptoindex

they dont list "coins with huge marketcapitalisation"

everything must be centered on "their" bitcoins, and the dumpsterfire they want to release tomorrow into the world

[TECSHARE]

exactly my observation, future soviet union is the us banking cartel,

the equity billionaires, and property billionaires, and the dependend urban population will try to save themselves from decentralisation by creating a socialist union of amerika

You operate under the delusion that Communism and the banking system were ever separate things.

[cizatext]

Well most of us at the Democratic era it impossible to speak any thing good about any other system of government, since the Soviet Union practices the socialist system of government the leader have to be imposing to bring to light it policy and governance.

[KingScorpio]

Well most of us at the Democratic era it impossible to speak any thing good about any other system of government, since the Soviet Union practices the socialist system of government the leader have to be imposing to bring to light it policy and governance.

united states will become north american soviet union, what the russians didnt achieved, crypto will achieve in no time.

trust me

[coins4commies]

Imagine a system that took a backwards land of peasants literally to the peak of human existence in just 40 years and oh by the way defeated the greatest evil in human history in the middle of all that.