Quoting OP topic and post on page 9

[Karl_3000]

Do not mind what I mean as page 9, what happened is that I saw someone posted something good but the person quoted the OP and posted on page 9 of the thread. What he posted has been posted by other users on the page 1 and previous pages.

Let us assume that the person posted it off hand but is it good to have such a long thread but you just decide to quote the OP topic and post on page 9 or on a very long thread. Is that not a spam?

I can post the thread if you need to see it but let me just avoid adding to my enemies for now.

[BlackBoss_]

Let us assume that the person posted it off hand but is it good to have such a long thread but you just decide to quote the OP topic and post on page 9 or on a very long thread. Is that not a spam?

It's spam.

A good post is only good and helpful if it answers questions or concerns that was not answered by any previous posts, pages.
In your example, that post is not helpful because answers previously already helped OP to solve his concern or problems.

[Karl_3000]

It's spam.

A good post is only good and helpful if it answers questions or concerns that was not answered by any previous posts, pages.
In your example, that post is not helpful because answers previously already helped OP to solve his concern or problems.

That is how I see it either.

Another thing is that it is not coming from a newbie or low rank user, but it came from a legendary with almost 1300 merits.

[stompix]

Do not mind what I mean as page 9, what happened is that I saw someone posted something good but the person quoted the OP and posted on page 9 of the thread.

Page 9?
Amateur! Noob! Laughable!
And it was a good post?
Blasphemy!

Try someone quoting OP on page 514 for something useless, for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484350.msg66297035#msg66297035

[lovesmayfamilis]

It's spam.

A good post is only good and helpful if it answers questions or concerns that was not answered by any previous posts, pages.
In your example, that post is not helpful because answers previously already helped OP to solve his concern or problems.

That is how I see it either.

Another thing is that it is not coming from a newbie or low rank user, but it came from a legendary with almost 1300 merits.

Wasn't this discussed a few days ago? Let's take the gambling section and find the ninth discussion page. I found the first one that caught my eye. And yes, the citation is on page 9 of the original post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5573738.msg66415985#msg66415985
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5573738.msg66415850#msg66415850
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5573738.msg66416223#msg66416223

Did you not assume that the one who answers, quoting the first post, entered the topic for the first time and decided to respond exclusively to the author? I already asked you earlier, do you think people can read all 50 pages of the topic to understand that the issue of discussion has long been resolved?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574687.msg66416775#msg66416775

 Moreover, can we force those who open topics to close them on time? If you, OP, will be looking for similar answers, then you simply will not have enough time of the day, as the forum is filled with similar answers. And yes, it's not just about page 9. Sometimes the answers are already repeated on the third post, the first page.

The question is, what do you want by opening this topic? Ban everyone?

[EarnOnVictor]

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I can post the thread if you need to see it but let me just avoid adding to my enemies for now.

I would have loved it if you posted the link, all the same, to judge carefully rather than relying on your conclusion. But that's by the way.

About the quoting, it's two ways, you can be doing something wrong if you do so, and you might be doing nothing wrong, as it all depends on what's being discussed on the thread. Some threads need individual's opinion, regardless of who had posted there before you. While some might not need individual's opinion/contribution, but the replies read so far might not be satisfactory. At times too, the respondent might find it difficult to read many replies just because he wants to reply. Some even prefer to reply directly to the OP, and so far they are not saying nonsense, I think it's welcome, IMO. Above all, what's being discussed matters, otherwise, it will not be welcome, because page 9 is way too long.

[Btcdeybodi]

Let us assume that the person posted it off hand but is it good to have such a long thread but you just decide to quote the OP topic and post on page 9 or on a very long thread. Is that not a spam?

It is definitely a spam and this doesn't even have to do with quoting the OP alone, even if you quote a reply in a thread and it's saying the same thing, it is a spam. However, moderators can also make spams uneasy for spammers and this can only happen when most of the threads are locked by moderators when they see that the thread is becoming a spammers hub. You can also report such threads to moderators so they can lock it in order to prevent more spammers.

[Karl_3000]

The question is, what do you want by opening this topic? Ban everyone?

Just to let the people know that they are spamming, but maybe I am not right. There are many new threads that people can reply to on this forum but why are they posting on a very long thread like that? If it is not harming the forum, we can leave it like that but I can not do something like that.

I would have loved it if you posted the link, all the same, to judge carefully rather than relying on your conclusion.

Many people will not see it on this post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566876.msg66431879#msg66431879. The topic was posted on November 28th of last year, but someone quoted the OP topic today. A topic that is almost 3 months now.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The question is, what do you want by opening this topic? Ban everyone?

Just to let the people know that they are spamming, but maybe I am not right. There are many new threads that people can reply to on this forum but why are they posting on a very long thread like that? If it is not harming the forum, we can leave it like that but I can not do something like that.

You can do it easier by asking the person who opened the topic to close it, or write to the moderators that the topic has exhausted its relevance. There are answers to topics written a long time ago, and we call them necroposting. Calling things spam, without any further reaction, you will achieve nothing.

[Joy- maker]

I know where you are going with this, but posting on page 9 of a long thread is not automatically spam imo, What really matters is the quality and originality of the reply. spam is more about posting low effort content or lazy posting without adding anything meaningful, useful, or helpful to thread just to meet up with your weekly post quarter.

But if a user quote the OP and repeat the same points that were already discussed on the page 1 and other pages of the thread, then it can look like spam. Why Because that act alone shows that, the user didn't read the whole thread before posting on the thread. In a long thread that is up to page 9,  it is important you skim through previous replies to avoid repeating the points that were already made.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I think this is something rather subjective;

If the reply is a bit unique or is adding on some information that the previous posters may not have put across, then this should be fine.
But if a person posted a reply that has been repeated several times on page 9, then you might as well just report it to the mods. It doesn't matter how nicely they posted it.

Also the motive matters a lot. Is it someone wearing a signature looking to increase their post count? Is it some merit-whoring account?

As for the example of the link you provided, you should have reported it as bumping an old thread with nothing new to add. I think mods usually delete such replies
Edit: Reporting the topic to be closed is the best solution, as there are still more people replying.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I know where you are going with this, but posting on page 9 of a long thread is not automatically spam imo <...>

I would say that there is one type of thread in which that is not usually spam, and that is when the OP contains a question about what you personally do or think about a topic. If you ask me what I do or think about something, I don't need to read through 90 pages of thread to answer. I think I saw a regular WO member say that a while ago, and he's right.

You can see a recent reply of mine that OP could criticise as well.

The title of the thread is

What can trigger you to make cashout?

This is my reply:

<...> what influences your decision to cashout? Is it when the cashout amount is 3x bigger than your stake or when you feel skeptical about the remaining games.

Well, personally, I don't have a clear and defined rule about this, but if I deposit about £50 and end up with a minimum of £200 in the cashier, I consider withdrawing. Maybe I've been lucky, I've reached £250, I leave the initial £50 and withdraw £200. Now, I close that session. I'll come back another day to lose the $50 I left, which is what almost always happens.

One could argue whether a thread like that makes sense after x number of pages and consequently responses, but what is clear to me is that I did not break any forum rules by responding in this way on page 6 to the OP, and anyone who believes otherwise can report my post.

[GeorgeJohn]

Do not mind what I mean as page 9, what happened is that I saw someone posted something good but the person quoted the OP and posted on page 9 of the thread. What he posted has been posted by other users on the page 1 and previous pages.

Yeah, it happens, The user only concentrate given his own point of views without bothering to read all the comments from page [1] to page [9]..And it’s not everyone like to read other people's comments before making their points of views known to a thread...Secondly, in a thread multiple answers will be given, and answers comes based on individual experience or understanding...

Let us assume that the person posted it off hand but is it good to have such a long thread but you just decide to quote the OP topic and post on page 9 or on a very long thread. Is that not a spam?

Actually that's not a spam...because he quotes the op post when he/her come across of the post...assuming it has comments there before and later and quote op, it's when it will be consider as a spam..

I can post the thread if you need to see it but let me just avoid adding to my enemies for now.

You can post the link, if you wish...but is not going add any enemies to you, because it's a simple question that deserves an answer that you asked....Everyone here is learning new thing everyday, mostly for the people who wants to learn...

[Shishir99]

I can post the thread if you need to see it but let me just avoid adding to my enemies for now.

You see that for the first time?
I have been seeing this for a while. Sometimes I myself do it as well. Probably the user just read the OP and did not bother to check all the replies, and went ahead to write their opinion about it. Sometimes people do not read all nine pages. I do not do it either. However, I love to read some replies, and that is where I spend most of my forum time. Writing your post may take a few minutes only, but reading all those posts takes hours, but it gives you a better picture.

Edit: For example, I see people posted similar opinion as mine in this thread, and I am reading them after posting my reply 

[The Cryptovator]

Do not mind what I mean as page 9, what happened is that I saw someone posted something good but the person quoted the OP and posted on page 9 of the thread. What he posted has been posted by other users on the page 1 and previous pages.

Here in this case we may express our own opinion; there are no rules or guidelines for that. Posting on 9 pages or more doesn't decide if it's spam or not. Even the next post on the first page would be spam. Depends on what's contributed through the post; we have to see if the post adds any value to the discussion. It's all about the contributions and adding value; it doesn't matter to me either after 100 pages. It's different questions whether it will be read by someone or not.

Let us assume that the person posted it off hand but is it good to have such a long thread but you just decide to quote the OP topic and post on page 9 or on a very long thread. Is that not a spam?

If it's reasonable, it could be quoted or posted simply. I quoted your post to explain it. I could even reply without a quote, because usually when replying without a quote, it is considered replying to the OP. However, I just reply with a quote because I think I should answer separately. So for me it will not be wrong if someone does similarly. All the posts of 9 pages won't be possible to read; hence, someone would reply to OP with or without a quote if the post added some value to the discussion. If repeating what was discussed on the previous page, then it should be reported as a low-value or zero-value post.

[Nathrixxx]

Posting on page 9 and above does not make what the user is posting a spam, it is very possible that someone posted on the second or third page and you discover it is nothing but spam, in a forum like this, it's not possible that we have posts on each thread not go beyond 10 or even 20 to 50 pages.

While for some important reasons, the discussion continues and people have to post and contribute but they have to say, so a spam post could only be seen as any content made out of a reasonable idea as we often call it off topic, all in a situation where there is repetition on what has already been discussed.

[KingsDen]

Do not mind what I mean as page 9, what happened is that I saw someone posted something good but the person quoted the OP and posted on page 9 of the thread. What he posted has been posted by other users on the page 1 and previous pages.

Here in this case we may express our own opinion; there are no rules or guidelines for that. Posting on 9 pages or more doesn't decide if it's spam or not. Even the next post on the first page would be spam. Depends on what's contributed through the post; we have to see if the post adds any value to the discussion. It's all about the contributions and adding value; it doesn't matter to me either after 100 pages. It's different questions whether it will be read by someone or not.

I align with you here. It doesn't matter which page it is. Spam can be in the first page.

Again, some OP could be a question which demands an answer. Someone might decide to give their own answer and they might not agree that similar answer has been given in the previous pages. Some people will still want their voice to count even if they arrived late.
There's also no rule that states that everyone must join an ongoing conversation. So, I think it is subjective and context based.
We should independently evaluate the post in page 9 to see if it actually adds to the thread or a mere repetition of what has been said many times in the thread.

Now let's twist it... If the thread is exhausted or has met it's natural end, why wasn't it locked by the Op or mods?
Hence there is an open thread, there'll be an open response 

[Ultegra134]

The "quoting principles" have been mentioned in the forum before and still a large number of users don't know their proper usage. The case you're mentioning is quite light, I remember being quoted in one of my older topics that was over 20 pages long. The discussion had shifted so much that their reply to my initial post was completely irrelevant with the rest of the discussion. It's a quite common occurrence, along with quoting multiple users under multiple replies and receiving a ton of notifications that aren't even directed to you.

[adultcrypto]

I have noticed that a lot of people do not read through the comments of others so their response is to the topic and the OP, this is the reason for this type of behavior. Assuming people can take time to read through the comments of others, then they would have noticed that most of the things they say had already been answered. For someone that is following the conversation, quote should be on ideas not responded to by others, probably the last few persons that responded before the person's response.

[Upgrade00]

I can post the thread if you need to see it but let me just avoid adding to my enemies for now.

You do not need to do that but I think for a different reason, there are lots of evidence of spam around the forum, not such an isolated case that it needs pointing out. A spam post can be in the first page and a quote in the 50th page can be contributing to the conversation.

Did you not assume that the one who answers, quoting the first post, entered the topic for the first time and decided to respond exclusively to the author? I already asked you earlier, do you think people can read all 50 pages of the topic to understand that the issue of discussion has long been resolved?

The suggestion may be that if a thread has 9 pages of replies you should assume that the op has gotten the answers that they need. If there are already too many replies to read through you should skip that thread.