Stake Scam, Winna Scam, Rollbit Scam, Rainbit Scam. They're all scams!

[Hispo]

All of the casinos are made to profit from their users and that's why losing is a common thing in the casinos.
But, they never forced you to visit them and deposit your money in it. What you did is out of your free will.
Those winners are real, they have the proof to provide you for sure that they're legitimate users of those casinos.
It's also a way for them to attract people to gamble with them thinking that they might have the same luck as their big winners.

That you are saying would.be common knowledge and common sense to anyone who would be even considering to venture in the world of gambling, but what we see in OP if the classical example of someone who messed around and found out in the worst possible manner about what gambling is about and how quickly one can lose money on those games.

It is pretty obvious in my eyes OP was not simply mature enough to deal with the world of gambling and betting and he was never supposed to deposit that money with the hope of multiply it effortlessly as he planned.

I guess you are right with that. That's why there are terms and conditions that are readable as per registration.
But none of us probably are reading that anymore including OP and that's why his reaction is like this.
He's not prepared for the losses that he'll get which is a normal thing once a person starts to gamble and use these casinos.
Anyone who's losing has this the same reaction of telling that a casino is a scam because their bets are not winning.

Funny enough, people don't only avoid reading terms and conditions when they first join a casino or a bookie. It also happens very often when we install a new service or when we get some subscription on the internet, before installing we are presented with the whole paper work of what we are allowed to do and are not supposed to do with whatever we are acquiring, but we just click "accept" and move on.

Also, OP did not necessarily need to take a look at terms of service of those casinos he mentioned, he would have been better had he taken a look at some "responsible gambling" section of those casinos, on which it is explained how gamblers are supposed to approach deposits, losses and developing addictions.

Instead, he probably chose to deposit more after his first losses... This thread is a summary of the consequences of his actions.

[LastKiss]

~snip~
Scam account: I lost 8k so far. This shit sucks.

You’re create this post because you lost 8k at the casino. If you’re not ready to lose money, then the casino is not the right place for you. If you had won 8k, you probably wouldn’t post something like this. Instead, you might become an influencer, telling others that you won a big amount on that platform. It’s the same with many influencers out there, they win and then share their success stories. Meanwhile, your luck wasn’t the same as theirs and you ended up losing 8k gambling. Some people win and some people lose. As long as we understand the risks, we shouldn’t blame others but take responsibility ourselves.

[mitchr4]

Sorry about your losses. But I don't think all of them are scams. Stake, Winna, and the others are well-known and trusted here, especially without any clear evidence of fraud. About VPN, that doesn't mean the site is a scam. It's usually due to geo-restrictions or licensing regulations in certain countries. If you're losing money you can't afford to lose, then the safest option is to stop gambling.

[Cointxz]

Sorry about your losses. But I don't think all of them are scams. Stake, Winna, and the others are well-known and trusted here, especially without any clear evidence of fraud. About VPN, that doesn't mean the site is a scam. It's usually due to geo-restrictions or licensing regulations in certain countries. If you're losing money you can't afford to lose, then the safest option is to stop gambling.

Stake particularly doesn’t allowed the use of VPN to access the casino. The OP is committing already a violation for accessing Stake with VPN.

Most of the casino mentioned use PF system on their games so the result is transparent while 3rd party games are the same to all casino.

This user only stop calling casino as scam if he won.

[michellee]

If you think that all crypto casinos are scams then gambling is not for you. You should know that playing gambling can cause losing money, that is the first thing you must understand. You should limits your funds and be careful playing gambling.

Losing money is commonly happens to gamblers and if you don't wants losing huge money, you must controls your funds limitation so you are not alone losing money in gambling.

More people losing bigger than you but the problem is do you know how to stop that before ruins your lives? You can quit gambling temporary to move on.

[Dave1]

If you think that all crypto casinos are scams then gambling is not for you. You should know that playing gambling can cause losing money, that is the first thing you must understand. You should limits your funds and be careful playing gambling.

Losing money is commonly happens to gamblers and if you don't wants losing huge money, you must controls your funds limitation so you are not alone losing money in gambling.

I don't think that he will stop playing though, just like any other gamblers, he will blame casinos if they lost big money. Venting all his frustrations here, not the first time that we have seen someone do that. But in the end, it's the typical reaction for gamblers, but how about some of us winning huge money too and just being lucky? We don't complain but withdraw immediately.

More people losing bigger than you but the problem is do you know how to stop that before ruins your lives? You can quit gambling temporary to move on.

You're right and there's no one to blame but the gamblers because he goes to play and then he has no control of his addiction. For sure he will not admit that he is a gambling addict and will justify everything by putting his hands on the casinos that he mentioned.

[arwin100]

Sorry about your losses. But I don't think all of them are scams. Stake, Winna, and the others are well-known and trusted here, especially without any clear evidence of fraud. About VPN, that doesn't mean the site is a scam. It's usually due to geo-restrictions or licensing regulations in certain countries. If you're losing money you can't afford to lose, then the safest option is to stop gambling.

He mentioned all reputable casinos as scam without checking his self that maybe he is the one have a serious problem.

Maybe he's been hurt so much with his past losses then just use all of those reasonings to have something to point out against those casinos. If he have this kind of attitude and can't accept their defeat much better for them not to engage on any casinos, since it seems that their patience and bad decision making hurt them badly. People here will not easily believe on those rants, since the way how he post it seems it just came out of his frustrations maybe dealing with those loses he encounters.

[freedomgo]

Gambling is a game of luck. You went to gamble on games that the house had the edge on and lost. I think that's a completely normal situation that happens everyday. If you were lucky enough, you would've probably won more than you lost in the end. We can put it to a taste for you to try sports betting on said platforms and if a sports event you gambled on won and your bet was marked as a loss, that's when I will believe.

It’s not even about whether he won or lost. The issue is that he’s accusing the casino of being a scam without showing any proof. That’s what the discussion should focus on.

You can say whether you agree with his statement or not, but if he’s going to make that kind of claim, he needs to provide solid evidence for the community to believe him. Otherwise, it’s just an empty accusation. And if there’s nothing to back it up, maybe we shouldn’t keep feeding the narrative in the first place.

[dimonstration]

~snip~
Scam account: I lost 8k so far. This shit sucks.

You’re create this post because you lost 8k at the casino. If you’re not ready to lose money, then the casino is not the right place for you. If you had won 8k, you probably wouldn’t post something like this. Instead, you might become an influencer, telling others that you won a big amount on that platform. It’s the same with many influencers out there, they win and then share their success stories. Meanwhile, your luck wasn’t the same as theirs and you ended up losing 8k gambling. Some people win and some people lose. As long as we understand the risks, we shouldn’t blame others but take responsibility ourselves.

This a typical casino losers that risking what they can’t afford to lose. They are trying to blame the casino for their lose either accusing as scam or other reason that will make casino reputation tainted.

I’m surprised this thread was created on gambling board without being moved to scam accusation since this is not a gambling discussion rather casino reputation.

But I doubt all the casino listed above will scam user while they can generate profit fairly.

[terrific]

I guess you are right with that. That's why there are terms and conditions that are readable as per registration.
But none of us probably are reading that anymore including OP and that's why his reaction is like this.
He's not prepared for the losses that he'll get which is a normal thing once a person starts to gamble and use these casinos.
Anyone who's losing has this the same reaction of telling that a casino is a scam because their bets are not winning.

Funny enough, people don't only avoid reading terms and conditions when they first join a casino or a bookie. It also happens very often when we install a new service or when we get some subscription on the internet, before installing we are presented with the whole paper work of what we are allowed to do and are not supposed to do with whatever we are acquiring, but we just click "accept" and move on.

Also, OP did not necessarily need to take a look at terms of service of those casinos he mentioned, he would have been better had he taken a look at some "responsible gambling" section of those casinos, on which it is explained how gamblers are supposed to approach deposits, losses and developing addictions.

Instead, he probably chose to deposit more after his first losses... This thread is a summary of the consequences of his actions.

Yes, that's the consequences of his actions and likely for the other gamblers too.
Those gamblers that don't take account for their actions as they gamble and with the decisions made, they're pointing it to the others.
They have to grow up with this, gambling is brutal for those who are not prepared for the outcome of it whether you win or lose big.

[libert19]

I feel for op. Even I feel casinos to be scam when I lose, but then again that's what gambling is. I don't understand how could you gamble with 8 grand though? I always tell people, whatever money you deposit on casino, they should consider it already lost, so they never will be surprised with the outcome.

You lost because you were unlucky, keep playing until you get lucky bros.

Dangerous advise.

[Oluwa-btc]

I've tried so many crypto casinos. I finally get why these sites require me to use a VPN to login. They're all scams! I was playing plinko on them and I always lose. Winna is a scam. Stake is a scam. Rollbit is a scam. Rainbit is a scam. They're made to make you lose money. They put images of people winning, but I lost money and that's all. These casinos suck.

What are you trying to say here, are you trying to invent your anger upon these different casinos by sending a wrong information across and coming from someone who knows series of this crypto casinos and how they operate I'm certainly convinced you're trying to bring down the reputations of these casinos. So before you go into gambling you ain't aware that it's not a bed of roses and loses is inevitable so better still tou stay guided other than bringing down the reputations of some reputable ones.

[Zlantann]

Sorry about your losses. But I don't think all of them are scams. Stake, Winna, and the others are well-known and trusted here, especially without any clear evidence of fraud. About VPN, that doesn't mean the site is a scam. It's usually due to geo-restrictions or licensing regulations in certain countries. If you're losing money you can't afford to lose, then the safest option is to stop gambling.

The only reason why OP created this thread is that he lost. Would they have come up with this post if he had won a huge amount? Gamblers have a high tendency to complain when they lose and keep their wins secret. One of my friends always keeps his wins secret because he does not want anybody to ask them of financial support. But he would always share the story of their losses to gain sympathy.

[serjent05]

Don't gamble on a gamble on a gamble (ie on crypto at a crypto casino on a crypto casino game). Just quit.

If you feel like you are being cheated by these platforms, then file a complaint, and stop playing, but I doubt if anyone will sympathize with you since member who frequent the gambling board knows the risk and the chance of winning in a casino.  Most of the time players will lose, we all know that but we do not make a scene out of it because we are not force to play but rather we voluntarily access those platforms and play.  Win or lose, our action is our responsibility.

If you can't afford to lose, then don't gamble. Be a man and be responsible for your actions @OP, don't blame others for your actions.

[Judith87403]

I understand the frustration. To lose that much really hurts.

But some big crypto casinos like Stake and Rollbitare created  with an in-built house edge. Only that gives assurance of long-term losses for players, even when the games are technically probably fair. Plinko mostly has the edge mathematically that always favours the house with time. You may win short term, yet based on statistics the platform wins the overall.

That doesn't imply all losses are  a rigged scam. It proves the system is built for you to loss no matter how you try.

The strongest point you made is  your last line: stacking risk on risk scarcely ends well. When it feels toxic, to step away entirely is mostly the wisest move to make.

[Julien_Olynpic]

I can only express my regret and sympathy for the loss of money to the author of the post. Unfortunately, we all lose money; that's life. However, it's hardly worth accusing well-known casinos of fraud because of this. Unfortunately, for many players, the phrase "provably fair" means nothing. Once an addiction develops, you begin a downward spiral, and at the bottom, only bitterness, irritation, and despair await you. But this is very easy to avoid. Just accept your limitations.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I've tried so many crypto casinos. I finally get why these sites require me to use a VPN to login. They're all scams! I was playing plinko on them and I always lose. Winna is a scam. Stake is a scam. Rollbit is a scam. Rainbit is a scam. They're made to make you lose money. They put images of people winning, but I lost money and that's all. These casinos suck.

I've read tons of discussions too and the people who win are definitely not the same people as the people who lose. I think it is rigged. Fake reviews. Fake accounts. Fake everything. I even think the review sites are working with the scam casinos. Even CM or the other big review forums. This whole industry is terrible.

Scam account: I lost 8k so far. This shit sucks.

Don't gamble on a gamble on a gamble (ie on crypto at a crypto casino on a crypto casino game). Just quit.

This last line actually gave me the impression that you are or were definitely high on something the time you were writing this post. A gambler who believes that all of this casinos you mentioned are all scam casinos, is definitely the scam him or herself..
What exactly were you expecting? That this casino will make you an over night dollar billionaire? If winning was that easy, don't you think we who are here and gamble every day would have all become millionaires even with the small small money we spend on games...

The thing, casinos are designed to make you lose, sorry if you are just knowing this but you ought to have know even before venturing into gambling, this is why loses are very common, and no matter how provably fair a game is, the casino's house edge is still working against you, this does not make the casinos scammers, this is simply how they profit as a business, casinos are not charity organisations where they dash people money, here you have to be lucky to win, esle, you are going to keep calling all casinos scam.

[DPHOR]

If I am not mistakenly you are the one who may be trying to scam the gambling site because I see no reason why you would tag 3-5 gambling site to be scammers, besides there are people who has been using them here and had never given a terrible report as you said about this gambling sites.
Again, does these site permits using VPN? Of course they are not allowing people to use VPN and if you lost your money this doesn't mean that you deserve the winning, and if your games went fine you could have won.

[Outhue]

Don't gamble on a gamble on a gamble (ie on crypto at a crypto casino on a crypto casino game). Just quit.

This guy is a perfect example of a sour loser. Just because he cannot win against a casino, he will accuse them of being a scam without presenting evidence that they are indeed a scam.
He is right in his decision to quit gambling. Gambling is not for him because his intention is to make money and turn the casino into his own cash cow, which he will fail to do. The lesson here is, don't gamble if you have the wrong mindset

I wouldn't call him a loser, I believe that's too harsh.

What happened to OP had happened to many gamblers before, he must have think too high of these online casinos, thinking that he will definitely win if he risk a lot of money, even some old members are advising us to risk higher amounts if truly we want to get lucky, I don't buy that idea because it doesn't matter.

Risking big amount of money won't change anything, you can still lose every penny of the amount, it is better to learn how to risk small money and if luck isn't on your side it won't hurt you much compared to risking thousands of dollars on gambling.

[Cryptohygenic]

Sorry about your losses. But I don't think all of them are scams. Stake, Winna, and the others are well-known and trusted here, especially without any clear evidence of fraud. About VPN, that doesn't mean the site is a scam. It's usually due to geo-restrictions or licensing regulations in certain countries. If you're losing money you can't afford to lose, then the safest option is to stop gambling.

To narrow it down, continues loosing of bets in certain sites does not make the platform scam, and while you are loosing, others somewhere playing in the same site are winning.
It is obvious that happiness and cheering of gambling companies sounds good when it is likely that the players are smoothly lucky to winnings. Those who are not lucky will always have a way to channel their blames.
You have just said it all that if you can not afford to loosing any longer, just quit for your healthy sake.