Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao Part II

[Questat]

A lot of people are getting fooled here. These two (Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.) are quite experienced players. They know how to hype up the fight, and they are exactly doing that as per the precompiled script. The fight will go ahead, either as an exhibition match (as Floyd says) or as a professional fight (as per Pacquiao). But both of them have an agreement on this, and they are engaging in a war of words just to get media attention. As of now, the interest in this match is not up to their expectations. Organizers were expecting a revenue of $500 million, but looks like they will fall short of that.

That’s a huge target for the old legends, but I believe it’s achievable. I don’t have the exact figures from his last fight, but I think that was the biggest payday of Pacman’s career.

So this one could be another big one. Even if it doesn’t surpass the previous record, it should at least be the second biggest. There’s really no need to hype it too much since people will watch this fight anyway.

For me, I’m just hoping it won’t end up as an exhibition match.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

A lot of people are getting fooled here. These two (Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.) are quite experienced players. They know how to hype up the fight, and they are exactly doing that as per the precompiled script. The fight will go ahead, either as an exhibition match (as Floyd says) or as a professional fight (as per Pacquiao). But both of them have an agreement on this, and they are engaging in a war of words just to get media attention. As of now, the interest in this match is not up to their expectations. Organizers were expecting a revenue of $500 million, but looks like they will fall short of that.

That’s a huge target for the old legends, but I believe it’s achievable. I don’t have the exact figures from his last fight, but I think that was the biggest payday of Pacman’s career.

So this one could be another big one. Even if it doesn’t surpass the previous record, it should at least be the second biggest. There’s really no need to hype it too much since people will watch this fight anyway.

For me, I’m just hoping it won’t end up as an exhibition match.

If they want to make sure that they will earn a BILLION, just let Mayweather sign a contract that he will fight all the way and stop running.
Its not a bad thing or im throwing some bad words to Floyd, But the audience saw the fight before and they dont want that to see again.
They want a real fight, give all the effort and punches. If people can assure that there will be a very fight and not to run around,  this is a huge hit!
Lets not ask PACMAN, we are sure that he will throw punches and catch.

[Questat]

If they want to make sure that they will earn a BILLION, just let Mayweather sign a contract that he will fight all the way and stop running.
Its not a bad thing or im throwing some bad words to Floyd, But the audience saw the fight before and they dont want that to see again.
They want a real fight, give all the effort and punches. If people can assure that there will be a very fight and not to run around,  this is a huge hit!
Lets not ask PACMAN, we are sure that he will throw punches and catch.

Not gonna happen, that’s just Floyd’s style. He won’t sacrifice that just to please the fans. What really makes him valuable is his undefeated record, and if he loses, that value drops significantly. He knows his worth, and even if he doesn’t fight Pacman, as long as he keeps that undefeated record, he can still easily earn millions of dollars.

[Shinpako09]

If they want to make sure that they will earn a BILLION, just let Mayweather sign a contract that he will fight all the way and stop running.
Its not a bad thing or im throwing some bad words to Floyd, But the audience saw the fight before and they dont want that to see again.
They want a real fight, give all the effort and punches. If people can assure that there will be a very fight and not to run around,  this is a huge hit!
Lets not ask PACMAN, we are sure that he will throw punches and catch.

Floyd isn’t going to do that. He got to 50-0 with that same fighting style. A lot of people criticized him back when he was in his prime, but he didn’t care and just stuck with it. If he didn’t care back then, he definitely won’t care now that he’s already accomplished everything. Whether he changes or not, he’ll still make money. He’s not going to risk his record just to give the fans a more entertaining fight. Floyd will always be Floyd.

[bhadz]

It looks working right now, so the question starts about the authenticity of the claim. But with that, it's already gaining a lot of attention in the internet for which whoever made that is effective. They only need to make some noise until the scheduled date of the fight. Because this fight is going to be one of the fights that have been waited for by the boxing and it might not happen again. As for their contract to Netflix, I doubt it that they don't know what's written in it for this to be an official/exhibition match.

Yeah these dispute is creating noise on boxing scene, many people talk about it already and it seems that this fight will get jeopardize again. Maybe Mayweather will continue to insist that their fight should be held as exhibition match. He provably got scared about possibilities to lose on the hands of Pacquaio.

Many people wait for their rematch to happen, but if Mayweather's camp is evasive and always want their terms to be followed well this fight seems to be will not gonna happen again. What really crazy is the contract they sign since I doubt that Mayweather don't know what they are signing on.

I hope that the Mayweather camp knows how to play marketing and doing it for the sake of attention to get more sales and bucks on this fight. But if it looks serious, Mayweather is really threaten to call this as an official match. And Pacquiao I think doesn't have any problem at all as long as he's going to make a lot of money from this fight although it's still different if it's an official match for both as they get out of their retirement.

In this case mate, everything is with Floyd, as what we said, how come him and his team didn't understand what is in the contract? And it was said that he already got half of the guarantee split and so in effect, everything should be settled down and understand that terms. But now Floyd is back pedaling on what has originally agreed upon. Manny wanted this to be a professional fight for sure. But we can't said that about Floyd as again he is rethinking is live decision on signing the contract that states that this fight is not a exhibition and there is a chance that his 50-0 will be in the line and that 0 will be gone if Manny defeated him.

That's true, they should have reviewed the contract before signing it. And as Netflix has announced it, that means that settlement are done and the agreement they have in their contracts. AFAIK, it's always Floyd that gets the most of these contracts like 60/40 or 55/45 and Pacquiao gets the lower part.

[nelson4lov]

A lot of people are getting fooled here. These two (Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.) are quite experienced players. They know how to hype up the fight, and they are exactly doing that as per the precompiled script. The fight will go ahead, either as an exhibition match (as Floyd says) or as a professional fight (as per Pacquiao). But both of them have an agreement on this, and they are engaging in a war of words just to get media attention. As of now, the interest in this match is not up to their expectations. Organizers were expecting a revenue of $500 million, but looks like they will fall short of that.

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

[terrific]

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

To be honest, I thought of it that everything was just made for publicity.
But it seems went for the real thing and that complain was an actual and real one.
Regardless of this is going to be an exhibition match or not, as long as it continues then the fans are curious on how it will end.
Still leading to how this match will end and curious if Pacquiao is at least going to revenge the lost that he's taken from Mayweather.

[Sithara007]

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

No matter how much they try to hype up things through this useless drama, the total revenues will be nowhere near $500 million. The organizers have given an unrealistic target to both Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Now the media is not giving much attention to this fight, and the response from the fans is dull, they have resorted to desperate tactics. I have talked to a few of my friends who have paid for PPV in the past. None of them are interested in watching this fight. I am not sure from where this $500 million figure comes in. Sounds quite steep, especially for a fight that involves retired boxers.

[AmoreJaz]

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

To be honest, I thought of it that everything was just made for publicity.
But it seems went for the real thing and that complain was an actual and real one.
Regardless of this is going to be an exhibition match or not, as long as it continues then the fans are curious on how it will end.
Still leading to how this match will end and curious if Pacquiao is at least going to revenge the lost that he's taken from Mayweather.

Recent reports surfaced that this match is not an exhibition match but a professional one. If there will be more controversy on this upcoming match - they might reach half of the revenue of their first match. And so they need to make this more interesting as both are already past their prime. But I would say, they can still fetch a good number of audience and will surely make money from the gate purse.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

No matter how much they try to hype up things through this useless drama, the total revenues will be nowhere near $500 million. The organizers have given an unrealistic target to both Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Now the media is not giving much attention to this fight, and the response from the fans is dull, they have resorted to desperate tactics. I have talked to a few of my friends who have paid for PPV in the past. None of them are interested in watching this fight. I am not sure from where this $500 million figure comes in. Sounds quite steep, especially for a fight that involves retired boxers.

$500 million? Been a boxing fan, but I do agree that this numbers are not realistic. It's not that they don't have fans that are willing to buy, but it's totally different when you see the fight this year as both are no longer in their primes.

The only thing that keeps this fight alive is that maybe some of us have a lot of questions to settle, what if that maybe watching the rematch even though they are old might satisfied out curiosity. But I don't see that numbers being reach and breaking PPV or live gate records.

[Maslate]

$500 million? Been a boxing fan, but I do agree that this numbers are not realistic. It's not that they don't have fans that are willing to buy, but it's totally different when you see the fight this year as both are no longer in their primes.

The only thing that keeps this fight alive is that maybe some of us have a lot of questions to settle, what if that maybe watching the rematch even though they are old might satisfied out curiosity. But I don't see that numbers being reach and breaking PPV or live gate records.

That estimate is too high and honestly unrealistic. Maybe they already know what they can actually generate, but they’re just hyping it up to make it look like the biggest fight in history. Manny and Money, both names already scream money, so it’s clear they’re aiming for a huge payday here. But even if they reach just 10% of that projected amount, I still doubt they can generate that much.

[terrific]

Immediately I saw reports about him saying it was going to be an exhibition match, I knew it was a ploy to deceive unsuspecting fans. The details of fights like this are thoroughly discussed with lawyers and agreed upon before it even becomes public. Prior to the reports about Mayweather earlier this week, I had completely forgotten about the fight. But now, it's back in my mind again and I'm looking for to it. So what they did worked. At the end of the day, even though it was controversial, it was good publicity.

To be honest, I thought of it that everything was just made for publicity.
But it seems went for the real thing and that complain was an actual and real one.
Regardless of this is going to be an exhibition match or not, as long as it continues then the fans are curious on how it will end.
Still leading to how this match will end and curious if Pacquiao is at least going to revenge the lost that he's taken from Mayweather.

Recent reports surfaced that this match is not an exhibition match but a professional one. If there will be more controversy on this upcoming match - they might reach half of the revenue of their first match. And so they need to make this more interesting as both are already past their prime. But I would say, they can still fetch a good number of audience and will surely make money from the gate purse.

They will surely get a lot of audience and fans on this fight. The names Pacquiao and Mayweather is already enough.
And that will add to the intensity and excitement of this match if it becomes a professional one.
One doesn't want to tarnish his record, the other has already tarnished his records with great fights and ok with the professional one.
These two better leave a good legacy, I think for Pacquiao, he's already got one. But as for Mayweather if he choses to make this as an exhibition, he'll be called that coward although he doesn't care as long as he get the money.

[Fredomago]

$500 million? Been a boxing fan, but I do agree that this numbers are not realistic. It's not that they don't have fans that are willing to buy, but it's totally different when you see the fight this year as both are no longer in their primes.

The only thing that keeps this fight alive is that maybe some of us have a lot of questions to settle, what if that maybe watching the rematch even though they are old might satisfied out curiosity. But I don't see that numbers being reach and breaking PPV or live gate records.

That estimate is too high and honestly unrealistic. Maybe they already know what they can actually generate, but they’re just hyping it up to make it look like the biggest fight in history. Manny and Money, both names already scream money, so it’s clear they’re aiming for a huge payday here. But even if they reach just 10% of that projected amount, I still doubt they can generate that much.

Maybe the reason why they are doing some drama to hype and generate views, for Mayweather it's a exhibition fight while for Pacman he insists that they both signed a real fight contract, not sure though if they are using this to create media exposures and gain interest from the fans who wanted to see them both in the same ring competing with a mission to win over another.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ Not sure about Manny, but Floyd's issue has been in the internet since the start of this fight. And who knows, if there is smoke then there is fire. On the other hand, Manny might be spending his money too, but not as flamboyant as Floyd.

And the exchange rate of PH Peso to USD is very much big. So even if Manny throws millions in Pesos, it might not hurt his bank account as compare to Floyd using millions of dollars just to continue with his extravagant lifestyle that sooner or later your bank account is depleting already.

Is that your argument? Only a simple cliche where there is smoke, there is a fire? This is headshaking hehehe. This does not give proof that Floyd Gayweather is bankrupt already. Also, if he is bankrupt already, he would have filed for this.

In any case, read the information shared in this thread. Gayweather has businesses that are making money which will certainly imply he is not fighting Pacman for money. He will be there defeat him!

Also, agreed on Pacman also not needing the money. He is a politician in his country. It will be very much easy to make money hehehehe.

[GreatArkansas]

^^ Not sure about Manny, but Floyd's issue has been in the internet since the start of this fight. And who knows, if there is smoke then there is fire. On the other hand, Manny might be spending his money too, but not as flamboyant as Floyd.

And the exchange rate of PH Peso to USD is very much big. So even if Manny throws millions in Pesos, it might not hurt his bank account as compare to Floyd using millions of dollars just to continue with his extravagant lifestyle that sooner or later your bank account is depleting already.

Is that your argument? Only a simple cliche where there is smoke, there is a fire? This is headshaking hehehe. This does not give proof that Floyd Gayweather is bankrupt already. Also, if he is bankrupt already, he would have filed for this.

In any case, read the information shared in this thread. Gayweather has businesses that are making money which will certainly imply he is not fighting Pacman for money. He will be there defeat him!

Also, agreed on Pacman also not needing the money. He is a politician in his country. It will be very much easy to make money hehehehe.

Manny Pacquiao is not a Senator anymore in the Philippines, but for me, the money he made when he was a politician is nothing compared to his boxing career, plus all the businesses that he has already, and even if he would do such corrupt things in politics, it's still nothing.
I believe this upcoming match between these two is more serious compared to the first match they had. No more dramas.

[Taskford]

^^ Not sure about Manny, but Floyd's issue has been in the internet since the start of this fight. And who knows, if there is smoke then there is fire. On the other hand, Manny might be spending his money too, but not as flamboyant as Floyd.

And the exchange rate of PH Peso to USD is very much big. So even if Manny throws millions in Pesos, it might not hurt his bank account as compare to Floyd using millions of dollars just to continue with his extravagant lifestyle that sooner or later your bank account is depleting already.

Is that your argument? Only a simple cliche where there is smoke, there is a fire? This is headshaking hehehe. This does not give proof that Floyd Gayweather is bankrupt already. Also, if he is bankrupt already, he would have filed for this.

In any case, read the information shared in this thread. Gayweather has businesses that are making money which will certainly imply he is not fighting Pacman for money. He will be there defeat him!

Also, agreed on Pacman also not needing the money. He is a politician in his country. It will be very much easy to make money hehehehe.

Manny Pacquiao is not a Senator anymore in the Philippines, but for me, the money he made when he was a politician is nothing compared to his boxing career, plus all the businesses that he has already, and even if he would do such corrupt things in politics, it's still nothing.
I believe this upcoming match between these two is more serious compared to the first match they had. No more dramas.

Pacquaio pay attention seriously in this fight since as we all know he really want to defeat Mayweather in this fight. That's why his camp push it as professionally sanctioned opposite on what Mayweather camp said.

Yeah money is another inspiration in this match, but the record what about Pacquaio will get is more important here. Maybe Mayweather camp has been threaten that's why they try to create some issue to delay this fight.

Also Pacquaio is not politician anymore and what he can get could provably boost his wealth and he cannot earn such huge paycheck easily on his businesses also for being a politician.

[coin-investor]

Pacquaio pay attention seriously in this fight since as we all know he really want to defeat Mayweather in this fight. That's why his camp push it as professionally sanctioned opposite on what Mayweather camp said.

He is dead serious about avenging his loss and handing Mayweather his first loss. Pacquiao has nothing to lose, while Mayweather has everything to lose; this is why he is belittling Pacquiao's efforts to make it a professional match.

He even called Pacquiao a washed-up fighter, but I believe the match will eventually become a professional fight because he has already signed the contract and made a cash advance. If he denies that, then he will be charged with breach of contract.
Mayweather's decision is tied to the contract, whether he likes it or not.

[acroman08]

He is dead serious about avenging his loss and handing Mayweather his first loss. Pacquiao has nothing to lose, while Mayweather has everything to lose; this is why he is belittling Pacquiao's efforts to make it a professional match.

He even called Pacquiao a washed-up fighter, but I believe the match will eventually become a professional fight because he has already signed the contract and made a cash advance. If he denies that, then he will be charged with breach of contract.
Mayweather's decision is tied to the contract, whether he likes it or not.

-snip

I still think that all this drama is just a way for them to build up hype for this match. Also, as you said, Mayweather already signed the contract and accepted payment in advance, if he didn't continue with this fight, he'd be sued and would probably lose more money, so if he doesn't want to be sued, he'd have to continue with this fight. Also, yeah, in this fight, Pacquiao has nothing to lose, but Mayweather could lose his "perfect" record.

[coinrifft]

He is dead serious about avenging his loss and handing Mayweather his first loss. Pacquiao has nothing to lose, while Mayweather has everything to lose; this is why he is belittling Pacquiao's efforts to make it a professional match.

He even called Pacquiao a washed-up fighter, but I believe the match will eventually become a professional fight because he has already signed the contract and made a cash advance. If he denies that, then he will be charged with breach of contract.
Mayweather's decision is tied to the contract, whether he likes it or not.

-snip

I still think that all this drama is just a way for them to build up hype for this match. Also, as you said, Mayweather already signed the contract and accepted payment in advance, if he didn't continue with this fight, he'd be sued and would probably lose more money, so if he doesn't want to be sued, he'd have to continue with this fight. Also, yeah, in this fight, Pacquiao has nothing to lose, but Mayweather could lose his "perfect" record.

I still shaking my head as what could be the real reason for all of this drama coming from Floyd. Is he really protecting that 0 as what we say? Or just hyping the fight to the higher level so that even casual fans are now exciting about this fight? Although I might be biased as I'm a Filipino. But for other nationalities, have you heard someone talking about this fight? It is effective method for Floyd to create more noises so that they can break records again and stay at the top of the highest PPV in history? Or it's Floyd is really hell bent on protecting his 0?

[Dave1]

^^ Not sure about Manny, but Floyd's issue has been in the internet since the start of this fight. And who knows, if there is smoke then there is fire. On the other hand, Manny might be spending his money too, but not as flamboyant as Floyd.

And the exchange rate of PH Peso to USD is very much big. So even if Manny throws millions in Pesos, it might not hurt his bank account as compare to Floyd using millions of dollars just to continue with his extravagant lifestyle that sooner or later your bank account is depleting already.

Is that your argument? Only a simple cliche where there is smoke, there is a fire? This is headshaking hehehe. This does not give proof that Floyd Gayweather is bankrupt already. Also, if he is bankrupt already, he would have filed for this.

Maybe it's not that he is really "bankrupt" as per definition, but has been losing money after he retires.

In any case, read the information shared in this thread. Gayweather has businesses that are making money which will certainly imply he is not fighting Pacman for money. He will be there defeat him!

Also, agreed on Pacman also not needing the money. He is a politician in his country. It will be very much easy to make money hehehehe.

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

Floyd also has history of domestic violence and even sued by his ex-mama for a huge amount of money if my memory is right. So maybe along that line, Floyd could have been with that problem after his retirement and so he can't sustain his lifestyle.