Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao Part II

[ene1980]

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I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

In a traditional sense, it does not make any sense to wage against Mayweather, but he is not having any real combat experience as he is doing exhibition fights for the past few years which will certainly have an impact on his performance as he is nearing 50 and his last professional fight was back in 2015 while Manny Pacquiao was active compared to Mayweather and had a very close fight last year against Mario Barrios.

I am not particularly keen on watching this fight when they are nearing 50s, i wanted to see the rematch 10 years ago rather than in 2026.

[Dave1]

@OgNasty. Agreed! However, if everyone in this thread will bet, this fight is also very much certainly easy to win money heheheh. Floyd Gayweather odds is presently on 1.42 and when the offers for Gayweather to win with a decision appears, this might be on 1.85!

I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

Well, feel free to use my signature link to place those bets. lol

I’ve actually never heard him called Floyd Gayweather before. Somewhat surprising looking back. It seems so obvious now.

Lol, but that's how @bbc.reporter is, making sarcastic names for this fighters or even member before.

In any case as reported this fight is going to happen now. Drama is over, Floyd won the first round already by creating noise and buzz around this fight and him on the brink of bankrupt or the US taxman under his ass.

So it's going to be a long promotion regardless of the bet or not, we can only hope that it will live up to the hype.

[freedomgo]

So it's going to be a long promotion regardless of the bet or not, we can only hope that it will live up to the hype.

That’s how Floyd became successful in boxing, he was really good at creating hype. That’s also why Pacman wanted that fight so much, because he didn’t even need to worry much about the promotion, Mayweather was already doing all of that himself.

And of course, just like expected, they got our attention again. That means we already become potential customers. If there’s a PPV for it, a lot of people might still buy, and that’s easy money for them.

[Sithara007]

That’s how Floyd became successful in boxing, he was really good at creating hype. That’s also why Pacman wanted that fight so much, because he didn’t even need to worry much about the promotion, Mayweather was already doing all of that himself.

And of course, just like expected, they got our attention again. That means we already become potential customers. If there’s a PPV for it, a lot of people might still buy, and that’s easy money for them.

Irrespective of how bad Floyd's financial situation is, Pacquiao knows that he needs Floyd much more than Floyd needs him. No other athlete as an opponent will give the same amount of revenues as Floyd in terms of PPV purchases and gate collection. On top of that, Floyd won the only professional match between these two back in 2015, and that also gives him some sort of upper hand in the negotiations. I am not sure about the exact purse being given to these two, but I am sure that Floyd's amount is higher than that of Manny. BTW, the recent drama on whether the match is an exhibition or a professional bout has generated enough interest in the media.

[bhadz]

I regret making this thread as I'm tired of seeing my name next to it.  I am surprised at the popularity of it.  I think more people are posting on this thread than will actually be watching the fight when it happens. 

You are not sure with that, many fans of Pacquiao are actually waiting for this to happen and that's why many are eager to watch it happens.

I don't like that boxers are engaging in these influencer style fights now.  It basically shows that people don't even care about the sport anymore.  They just care about the people involved.

I agree, they're only doing it for the sake of money and that's how they're earning quick cash. The honorable in doing the sport is being gone if these influencer fights keep on happening. Although no one can stop them from doing these fights if they're for entertainment.

[Dave1]

So it's going to be a long promotion regardless of the bet or not, we can only hope that it will live up to the hype.

That’s how Floyd became successful in boxing, he was really good at creating hype. That’s also why Pacman wanted that fight so much, because he didn’t even need to worry much about the promotion, Mayweather was already doing all of that himself.

Before though, it was Floyd's mouth who are running in the media and doesn't create hype base on his financial status. He even says that he is the greatest and the richest boxer and the cash cow bof boxing. But now, it's totally different, first time that we have seen him somewhat backing out on fight, specially the money is too big in the table.

And of course, just like expected, they got our attention again. That means we already become potential customers. If there’s a PPV for it, a lot of people might still buy, and that’s easy money for them.

Yeah, but it's just a question whether it will translate into revenue generating or not. There could be potential customers, but there could be some fans that might be disappointed on how Floyd played his cards in the media.

[bbc.reporter]

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I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

In a traditional sense, it does not make any sense to wage against Mayweather, but he is not having any real combat experience as he is doing exhibition fights for the past few years which will certainly have an impact on his performance as he is nearing 50 and his last professional fight was back in 2015 while Manny Pacquiao was active compared to Mayweather and had a very close fight last year against Mario Barrios.

However, what is your argument? Your argument is Pacman will win because he is more active professionally? You are very much mistaken on your assessment if that is the only reason that will cause you to bet against Floyd Gayweather.

Gayweather will not fight Pacman if he cannot create an assurance that he will win the fight before the fight has begun. I am a fan of Pacman but this is a fight he cannot win.

[arwin100]

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I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

In a traditional sense, it does not make any sense to wage against Mayweather, but he is not having any real combat experience as he is doing exhibition fights for the past few years which will certainly have an impact on his performance as he is nearing 50 and his last professional fight was back in 2015 while Manny Pacquiao was active compared to Mayweather and had a very close fight last year against Mario Barrios.

However, what is your argument? Your argument is Pacman will win because he is more active professionally? You are very much mistaken on your assessment if that is the only reason that will cause you to bet against Floyd Gayweather.

Gayweather will not fight Pacman if he cannot create an assurance that he will win the fight before the fight has begun. I am a fan of Pacman but this is a fight he cannot win.

Its not going to be like that and he's opinion is so one sided. Even if we say he's active but we cannot really say that he have great advantage against Mayweather. The problem is what if the fight will be scripted and the favor will always go on Mayweather right? but everything is just speculation and we don't know the real score about this. What we know is Mayweather will not fight if he knows he didn't have any great advantage.

But I really want Pacquaio to win and hopefully there's no scripted fight here and we see that happening.

[fullfitlarry]

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I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

In a traditional sense, it does not make any sense to wage against Mayweather, but he is not having any real combat experience as he is doing exhibition fights for the past few years which will certainly have an impact on his performance as he is nearing 50 and his last professional fight was back in 2015 while Manny Pacquiao was active compared to Mayweather and had a very close fight last year against Mario Barrios.

However, what is your argument? Your argument is Pacman will win because he is more active professionally? You are very much mistaken on your assessment if that is the only reason that will cause you to bet against Floyd Gayweather.

Gayweather will not fight Pacman if he cannot create an assurance that he will win the fight before the fight has begun. I am a fan of Pacman but this is a fight he cannot win.

Both can be said as well, Manny thinks that this is his best chance to beat Floyd, and most likely that's why Floyd doesn't want this to be a pro-match because he will be risking his record and want to maintain his unbeaten record.

So the argument could also work either way in my opinion. Although it's not an assurance that even if Pacman is more active, Floyd can't win the fight. So this could still be a 50/50 fight, although Floyd will be favorite, who knows, maybe they are wrong and that Pacman could still have that one fight in him.

[lombok]

Both can be said as well, Manny thinks that this is his best chance to beat Floyd, and most likely that's why Floyd doesn't want this to be a pro-match because he will be risking his record and want to maintain his unbeaten record.

So the argument could also work either way in my opinion. Although it's not an assurance that even if Pacman is more active, Floyd can't win the fight. So this could still be a 50/50 fight, although Floyd will be favorite, who knows, maybe they are wrong and that Pacman could still have that one fight in him.

To have an ideal winning streak, you need to be fearless and have fear of losing and humiliation. Someone may be too full of him/herself about how powerful they are, and an unwelcome competitor could turn a giant trick. No one is certain of who is the strongest until the last ringing of the bell. Trust on either side should be place with a psychological readiness to confront the attacks of their opponent.

[Dave1]

Both can be said as well, Manny thinks that this is his best chance to beat Floyd, and most likely that's why Floyd doesn't want this to be a pro-match because he will be risking his record and want to maintain his unbeaten record.

So the argument could also work either way in my opinion. Although it's not an assurance that even if Pacman is more active, Floyd can't win the fight. So this could still be a 50/50 fight, although Floyd will be favorite, who knows, maybe they are wrong and that Pacman could still have that one fight in him.

To have an ideal winning streak, you need to be fearless and have fear of losing and humiliation. Someone may be too full of him/herself about how powerful they are, and an unwelcome competitor could turn a giant trick. No one is certain of who is the strongest until the last ringing of the bell. Trust on either side should be place with a psychological readiness to confront the attacks of their opponent.

I don't know if I understand you correctly, of course you are pointing the obvious here, he has a winning streak or never lost before if we talk about Floyd Mayweather. But it doesn't mean that he is not afraid to put his record on the line specially against Manny Pacquiao.

This could go on the judges score card, full 12 rounds and we will see who will survived. Although I will give Floyd a slight edge in terms of stamina. Manny might not have that gas task anymore. But we will see, both could really be training hard for this one fight as no one wanted to lose.

[Questat]

Although I will give Floyd a slight edge in terms of stamina.

I’ll give it 50-50 here, because both of them can definitely last the full 12 rounds. It’s just that Floyd was quicker, and that’s why he won the first meeting.
But this time it could be different since they’re both older now, so we might not see the same Floyd anymore.

Manny might not have that gas task anymore. But we will see, both could really be training hard for this one fight as no one wanted to lose.

We already saw Manny fight before, and he almost beat Barrios. That alone shows he can still compete, even against the older version of Mayweather, because he was able to hang with a younger champion. So  always has the gas for this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

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I am a fan of Pacman but it is headshaking that there are other fans of him who speculates that he will win. He will never win this. The prefight demands of Gayweather have assured this.

In a traditional sense, it does not make any sense to wage against Mayweather, but he is not having any real combat experience as he is doing exhibition fights for the past few years which will certainly have an impact on his performance as he is nearing 50 and his last professional fight was back in 2015 while Manny Pacquiao was active compared to Mayweather and had a very close fight last year against Mario Barrios.

However, what is your argument? Your argument is Pacman will win because he is more active professionally? You are very much mistaken on your assessment if that is the only reason that will cause you to bet against Floyd Gayweather.

Gayweather will not fight Pacman if he cannot create an assurance that he will win the fight before the fight has begun. I am a fan of Pacman but this is a fight he cannot win.

Its not going to be like that and he's opinion is so one sided. Even if we say he's active but we cannot really say that he have great advantage against Mayweather. The problem is what if the fight will be scripted and the favor will always go on Mayweather right? but everything is just speculation and we don't know the real score about this. What we know is Mayweather will not fight if he knows he didn't have any great advantage.

But I really want Pacquaio to win and hopefully there's no scripted fight here and we see that happening.

Agreed! I also want to witness a victory for Pacman! However, I am very much afraid that because of the prefight demands of Gayweather and also because Pacman signed and agreed to these demands, it appears that this fight is scripted already.

My only wish for the fight is Pacman will make it something similar to Rocky1 where, yes, Rocky Balboa lost the fight against the Apollo but Rocky has also won the hearts of all the fans because Rocky has tried his best and he almost won. This will be both good for me being a fan of Pacman and a bettor on Gayweather hehehehehe.

How you watched Rocky 1? This is a very good movie! It will make your eyes swell with tears.

[Dave1]

Although I will give Floyd a slight edge in terms of stamina.

I’ll give it 50-50 here, because both of them can definitely last the full 12 rounds. It’s just that Floyd was quicker, and that’s why he won the first meeting.
But this time it could be different since they’re both older now, so we might not see the same Floyd anymore.

Manny might not have that gas task anymore. But we will see, both could really be training hard for this one fight as no one wanted to lose.

We already saw Manny fight before, and he almost beat Barrios. That alone shows he can still compete, even against the older version of Mayweather, because he was able to hang with a younger champion. So  always has the gas for this fight.

I'm a fan of Manny, but he losses on the championship fight because he doesn't have the gas tank. Just like in the Thurman fight wherein there were rounds that obviously take a rest because he is getting tired. Good thing that in Thurman he was ahead because he scored a knockdown.

But in Barrios case, he might be ahead by he gave up the last 3 rounds causing the fight to be declared a draw. Good thing that Barrios doesn't have that knockout power in that last 3 rounds. That's why I said that he needs to train harder, but this could be the first say that a person is getting old because he gets tired easily.

[SatsPH]

Regardless of what the odds.

I will just go and put my money on Manny here. He is the underdog but it doesn't matter. He wants to avenge his defeat to Floyd. And that will be enough for Manny to get motivated and train very hard for this fight.

[livingfree]

Regardless of what the odds.

I will just go and put my money on Manny here. He is the underdog but it doesn't matter. He wants to avenge his defeat to Floyd. And that will be enough for Manny to get motivated and train very hard for this fight.

He prepared for his vengeance.

His loss against Mayweather wasn't justified if it's with the point of view of the fans. And that's why this is a good risk to put money on Pacquiao for this fight.

[bisdak40]

Regardless of what the odds.

I will just go and put my money on Manny here. He is the underdog but it doesn't matter. He wants to avenge his defeat to Floyd. And that will be enough for Manny to get motivated and train very hard for this fight.

If this fight will push through, that is enough that we can say that this a win for both of them because whether we like it or not they will profit from this fight even at their old age, i mean this rematch should have happen months after their first fight not at this stage of their career. But you have a point though that putting or destroying Floyd Mayweather's record may add more motivation for Manny Pacquiao to defeat Floyd but personally i think Manny will be having a hard time still because Floyd is as slick as ever and i would not be surprise if bookies will place Floyd as the favorite on this matchup.

[Dave1]

Regardless of what the odds.

I will just go and put my money on Manny here. He is the underdog but it doesn't matter. He wants to avenge his defeat to Floyd. And that will be enough for Manny to get motivated and train very hard for this fight.

He prepared for his vengeance.

His loss against Mayweather wasn't justified if it's with the point of view of the fans. And that's why this is a good risk to put money on Pacquiao for this fight.

Yes, Manny is not 100% during the first fight as he had a shoulder injury. Although he did his best, but Floyd was on a defensive mode all throughout the fight and on his bike and never try to engage Manny.

That's why Manny wanted this to be a pro-fight so that he can avenge his defeat and hand Floyd his first. But as what others might think, Floyd still had the best defense even at this age and he didn't have the damage that Manny has. Plus again, I'm talking about stamina and so Manny should fill his gas tank because he throws a lot of punches, so he should bring a lot of stamina so that he won't fade in the championship rounds.

[JeffBrad12]

Regardless of what the odds.

I will just go and put my money on Manny here. He is the underdog but it doesn't matter. He wants to avenge his defeat to Floyd. And that will be enough for Manny to get motivated and train very hard for this fight.

It makes sense. As long as this is not an exhibition match like what people talked about. It's good to bet on Manny caused by he will get motivate enough to beat Mayweather, and break his opponent's record. This is also the reason why Mayweather is worrying this fight, and he was keen to changed it as an exhibition match.
Manny does have nothing to lose and no fear to adversity. So it's gonna be a boost for himself to beat Mayweather. It seems Mayweather's record is gonna be broken soon.

[julerz12]

i would not be surprise if bookies will place Floyd as the favorite on this matchup.

Yep, he already is their favorite [1]. It seems most bookies see PacMan as the underdog.   Probably because they think Floyd will continue his slitherness in the ring to protect his flawless boxing record. That 50–0 sure is something else.   What's funny is he is still set to fight a legendary Kickboxer this June in Athens, Greece. To protect his over-inflated ego and that untainted boxing record, he needs to make sure he doesn't lose to Zambidis. Otherwise, it'll be hilarious, and the media will surely have a field day talking about it.