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February 26, 2026, 10:25:22 AM
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I asked this question last year as I noticed strange activity regarding ETFs and synthetic positions on IBIT

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536786.0


After all the drama about Jane Street manipulating prices since 10/10, Jeff Park has a good explanation how ETFs can created an unlimited supply of synthetic BTC, essentially making the fixed supply narrative less impactful

https://x.com/dgt10011/status/2026785209983619485?s=20

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February 26, 2026, 10:34:10 AM
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I asked this question last year as I noticed strange activity regarding ETFs and synthetic positions on IBIT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536786.0After all the drama about Jane Street manipulating prices since 10/10, Jeff Park has a good explanation how ETFs can created an unlimited supply of synthetic BTC, essentially making the fixed supply narrative less impactful https://x.com/dgt10011/status/2026785209983619485?s=20


If ETF sponsors could print infinite synthetic Bitcoin to capture fees, they'd do it non-stop. They can't.
Their license depends on proving reserves.

The real impact is on price action and liquidity, not the fixed supply. What youre seeing is the tradfi plumbing-market makers and hedge funds using derivatives to arbitrage between the ETF share price and the underlying BTC.
That activity creates weird short-term dislocations, like the stuff around Jane Street. But it doesn't create more coins; it just moves existing liquidity around faster. If anything, massive redemptions force issuers to sell BTC, adding sell pressure.
thats the practical risk now, not some phantom supply. So the narrative is irrelevant because the mechanics prevent it.
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February 26, 2026, 07:07:15 PM
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They have not created any infinite supply of Bitcoin
It still remains approximately 21 million (way lesser in supply if we accounting for lost coins)
ETF gives shares equivalent to the amount of Bitcoin you bought
So it's around same range.

Because someone posted a picture of a dog doesn't mean the dog is now two.

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February 26, 2026, 07:16:43 PM
Last edit: February 26, 2026, 07:38:14 PM by Easteregg69
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I bought in Cardano ETN. Not ETF.

You guessed right. It's so much down it's not worth stealing while we talk about.


Exchange traded notes or something. From a swiss exchange.. listen man. you can't sell your bitcoin you get a side bet. Something less incriminating that reports tax.


Tax that repairs holes in the road. Tax that pays for wider roads so you don't have to park on the side walk.


Tax that pays the dictators bunker. You have to get them out before they go mental.


So tax'ed it is.

Throw some "shit" and see what sticks.
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February 26, 2026, 07:56:08 PM
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I would like to believe that options as popular and 'native' as ETFs are well regulated and do not allow this to happen.  On the other hand.  There are other less regulated options and I do not know how well their reserves are being checked every now and then.  One such worry was a while ago about Tether and 'Wrapped Bitcoin'.  Most of them are audited but I doubt there has not been at least one case before where the real reserve was different from the amount shown to the public.

Anyway.  Holding these ETFs is incomparable to holding Bitcoin in your own Non Custodial Wallet so to me they are nothing.  So is any Wrapped Bitcoin or similar B S.

 
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February 26, 2026, 10:05:53 PM
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I don't know how he concluded that an ETF would make the supply of Bitcoin infinite, but we shouldn't equate ETFs with Bitcoin because they're not the same thing. ETFs are simply products created by financial institutions that claim to represent the price of Bitcoin ---- it's not Bitcoin at all.

So when someone buys an ETF, they're simply buying a piece of paper that claims to be equivalent to Bitcoin, but it's just a gimmick to deceive people into thinking they're investing in "Bitcoin" when they're not.

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February 26, 2026, 10:38:27 PM
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So when someone buys an ETF, they're simply buying a piece of paper that claims to be equivalent to Bitcoin, but it's just a gimmick to deceive people into thinking they're investing in "Bitcoin" when they're not.
By right, if things are not being manipulated by the law governing those things, each $B ETF that is being purchased is supposed to be backed up by some real bitcoin somewhere, not just purchasing some notes that the companies give out without any backup. It could be a note that shows on your balance, but it should have a real bitcoin backing it up in reserve. That's why the value should be equivalent to the real bitcoin.

 
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February 27, 2026, 10:42:37 PM
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I don't know how he concluded that an ETF would make the supply of Bitcoin infinite, but we shouldn't equate ETFs with Bitcoin because they're not the same thing. ETFs are simply products created by financial institutions that claim to represent the price of Bitcoin ---- it's not Bitcoin at all.

So when someone buys an ETF, they're simply buying a piece of paper that claims to be equivalent to Bitcoin, but it's just a gimmick to deceive people into thinking they're investing in "Bitcoin" when they're not.

People should familiarize themselves on what ETF is really about. So they are not being deceived by other parties about their claim. With the internet that we have today, I believe someone can just do their due diligence to understand what's going on with the market.

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