Rename the Scam Accusations board to "Casino Complaints Department"

[DireWolfM14]

The Scam Accusations board has become useless for reporting actual scams.  The plethora of complaints about casinos drowns out actual scam reports and discussions.  Many of the casino complaints are by scammers themselves who got caught abusing multiple accounts/reference codes.  It's just sneaky scammers reporting transparent scammers.

My sarcastic thread title aside, I’d like to suggest a new sub-board in the gambling section for reporting casino problems and scam accusations.  Let’s leave the main Scam Accusation board for reporting all other scams, not related to casinos or gambling.  Currently the first page of the Scam Accusations board is all casino related threads, with the exception of two.  It's essentially a sub board about gambling anyway, so why shouldn't it be in the gambling section?

PSA: Casinos and gambling sites are not in the business of giving away money.  They are in the business of taking yours.

[Mia Chloe]

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Well casinos are the bulk of advertised services here so you statistically should expect more casino issues to flood that area. There are some other scam reports there on other things but you barely find them. That being said multiple boards may seem like more effective organisation but it's like a plague.

When you over sort boards more become inactive and useless. If we are having less topics on other scams then if it has it's separate board you should expect the activity there to be near zero.

[Nwada001]

Currently the first page of the Scam Accusations board is all casino related threads, with the exception of two.  It's essentially a sub board about gambling anyway, so why shouldn't it be in the gambling section?

It's a good suggestion, but the scam accusations board has been known as the place where scams have been reported over the years, pushing a specific scam type to a specific board, which is what I consider your suggestion to be like. It might make things a little bit confusing for some, and it will take time for them to get used to it.

To me, I would suggest the sub-board for casino scam accusations be created under the main scam accusations section; that way, anyone visiting the scam accusations can sub and navigate exactly which type of scam they want to see.

[Ambatman]

Just like reputation board
They are both sub board for Trading boards
But are barely about trading again.
I believes the sub boards have grown past the main board they are under
And have ventured towards independence
So reputation everything about Reputation
And Scam accusation every thing about scam accusations

With this yardstick, Casino been reported there isn't wrong even if most are false.
Though it's Now big enough to have their own sub board

[noorman0]

I agree that gambling board should have its own complaint sub-board. I don't understand why someone would report a casino as fraudulent while others continue to play and receive service without issues.
I think a casino deserves to be labeled exit scam due to administrative issues, such as when it has a higher number of unresolved complaints regarding payouts, is linked to  previously known scam casino sites, etc.

[Faizan Zen]

In my opinion, it's not about which board to go to, but rather how the scam accusation are resolved. Casinos often ignore scam accusation, even though they have representatives/accounts on these forum. If all accusation could be handled by an official representative account, that would be great.

[SuperBitMan]

Scam Accusation board was created so that people can report any scam related issues. The kind of scam issue that is being reported over there by members should not be a problem to us or anyone, if you are not interested in the casino scam issue you see members report their just pass, there’s no need creating another sub board for just casino scam.
The only reason we are having too much casino scam issue being reported in the scam accusation board is because casino is too many in the forum. So what if casino reduces in this forum in the future and what is now dominating is exchange and there report are always coming to the scam accusation board are will still going to create a sub board for it in technical board?

[_act_]

My sarcastic thread title aside, I’d like to suggest a new sub-board in the gambling section for reporting casino problems and scam accusations.  Let’s leave the main Scam Accusation board for reporting all other scams, not related to casinos or gambling.  Currently the first page of the Scam Accusations board is all casino related threads, with the exception of two.  It's essentially a sub board about gambling anyway, so why shouldn't it be in the gambling section?

Gambling boards are one of the most active boards on this forum, 3 boards are given to gambling, but if it can become four I think it would be good. What do you think about it? The fourth board can just be for gambling scam accusations. I think this would be good than having a child board for gambling scam accusations on the accusation board.

[Joy- maker]

I agree with you that the scam accusations board is gradually turning into what feels like casinos complaints board, And that does reduce the visibility for non gambling victims who need attention quickly.

And Your suggestion of creating a dedicated gambling dispute/casinos complaints sub board under the gambling section actually make a structural sense, however there are two counterpoints worth considering:

Some casinos are not just having small customers complaints or misunderstanding, They are actually scam that intentionally cheat their customers.

Secondly, if all the casinos related scams reports are move to a separate gambling sub board, it might make those serious scam cases look less important. And users here may start seeing them as normal casino dispute instead of serious fraud warning.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

One of the reasons could be because casinos are now the most popular form of service in the forum that uses Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies after the mixer ban. But of course, during the time when ICOs were a thing, that very board was full of ICO-related scam accusations. Even when many mixers were active here, we could see so many accusations about scam mixers, clone mixers and phishing sites.

So to me this is just a trend. We have less and less advertising for exchanges and other services here vs. casinos, so the complaints will also definitely become fewer.

I think everything should just stay as it is. Creating a new board just for gambling sites will just create more confusion.

[alegotardo]

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Well casinos are the bulk of advertised services here so you statistically should expect more casino issues to flood that area. There are some other scam reports there on other things but you barely find them. That being said multiple boards may seem like more effective organisation but it's like a plague.

When you over sort boards more become inactive and useless. If we are having less topics on other scams then if it has it's separate board you should expect the activity there to be near zero.

I agree with you!
I believe that creating sub-board only are interesting when the number of general topics is greater than what posted on sub-topics. Otherwise, it is very likely that people will continue posting a lot of things in the main topic (that they should not), and this ends up overloading the moderators even more.

Perhaps would be more interesting to create a sub-board called "non casino related scams" (I am just kidding, do not take it seriously).

Anyway, I would like to say that this type of report will eventually end, but I believe that will still take a long time!
Bu in short, I do not see any problems with it... if we had at least another niche for reports with a large volume, this suggestion might be more viable.

[Cookdata]

I agree that gambling board should have its own complaint sub-board. I don't understand why someone would report a casino as fraudulent while others continue to play and receive service without issues.

The casinos in this forum are not the only ones that do have issues with players, I was scrolling on TikTok and one user was complaining that he won a significant amount of money and the casino close his account alleged that he has a multiple account and has directed him to withdraw his money. To me, it's a fair deal, accused of multiple accounts and voluntary request you withdraw your winning and didn't nullify your winning seems a fair deal to me but he was dragging the casino, the thing is not everyone will be satisfy but this doesn't justify casino that offer bad service, transparency is everything.

In my opinion, it's not about which board to go to, but rather how the scam accusation are resolved. Casinos often ignore scam accusation, even though they have representatives/accounts on these forum. If all accusation could be handled by an official representative account, that would be great.

I wish there is more way such cases can be handled. If only it's possible to verify scam accusations so the forum doesn't have to wait for representative to decide what's going on. Sometimes when you visit their profile, not all are active here and it's hard to judge such cases but rather than allowed such to happen, I think people should avoid casino that has poor customers support on the forum.

[nutildah]

I think the whole using Bitcointalk as a platform for casino complaints is helping to keep the forum relevant, so I really don't mind it. There could be a child board within Scam Accusations called Casino Complaints, although it will take years to get the public to start using it instead of just Scam Accusations. So there will be a lot of thread moving. Also, activity in Scam Accusations will drop off by about 75%... not sure its really necessary at this point.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

The Scam Accusations board has become useless for reporting actual scams.  The plethora of complaints about casinos drowns out actual scam reports and discussions.  Many of the casino complaints are by scammers themselves who got caught abusing multiple accounts/reference codes.  It's just sneaky scammers reporting transparent scammers.

Many accusations are invalid and people made these accusations confirmed as scammers later. These people who created scam accusations usually try to spoil casino announcement threads too, they want to make noise, create pressure on the casino for hoping that the company will satisfy their demand, give them money while the people who are wrong are they, not the business.

As proven by holydarkness there
[LIST] Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum.

[DireWolfM14]

Well casinos are the bulk of advertised services here so you statistically should expect more casino issues to flood that area.

Not disagreeing with that.  Just pointing out that they pose their set of issues and attract a significant amount of false reports.  It dilutes the purpose of the board.  Scam accusations should be taken seriously, but that's impossible to do when it come to the accusations against casinos.

I think the whole using Bitcointalk as a platform for casino complaints is helping to keep the forum relevant, so I really don't mind it.

I agree that the allowing casinos to advertise and be promoted here helps the forum over all, but I don't think that the scam accusation board is such a significant part of the whole ecosystem.  Certainly not the point where if it were to be moved that would impact the alure of the forum overall.

There could be a child board within Scam Accusations called Casino Complaints, although it will take years to get the public to start using it instead of just Scam Accusations. So there will be a lot of thread moving. Also, activity in Scam Accusations will drop off by about 75%... not sure its really necessary at this point.

That's basically what I envisioned as well; for a time we'll end up reporting a lot of threads to be moved, which may not exactly appeal to admin and mods.