President Donald Trump and president Putin don't have respect for democracy

[Bigjoe158]

If there is a man who don't have respect for democracy that man is Donald Trump. He invades other countries at will and that is a bad signal for other president coming after them. There is no difference between him and president Putin of Russia who invaded Ukraine. Now my question is, are these two really democrats or a problem to world?

[PostQuantumBTC]

There is no difference between him and president Putin of Russia who invaded Ukraine. Now my question is, are these two really democrats or a problem to world?

Big countries are big problems, I wish NATO has not expanded towards Russia. United States and NATO caused the war in Russia. Russia gave a warning to Ukraine, the president listened but they ousted him and put in NATO friendly president. After was Zelensky, another NATO friendly president. I wished Ukraine has been more friendly towards Russia. Russia wanted to be part of NATO but United States said NO, but they kept accepting more countries to be part of NATO and moving towards Russia border.

Trump is a bully and he is one of the presidents I can not like. He called Canada the 51st states, he wanted to acquire Greenland, he arrested the president of Venezuela by force which is very wrong and he now wants to fight Iran. I guess you are talking about Iran which I will also talk a little further about.

The president of Iran is not liked by his people according to what we have been seeing online. People protested but the Iranian government killed thousands of their citizens because they were protesting. That was highly unfair and horrible. Recently the Iranian university students also protested against the government of Iran. That is showing that they want their government to be changed.

About the nuclear enrichment, Iran might agree to that, but they are not agreeing to end creation of missiles. The country can not want to be defenseless and they do not agree. It is very possible that Trump wants the war but Iran are not also bowing down.

[JeromeTash]

Democracy is just an illusion

You hand over power to someone via ballot paper or whatever means, and you expect them to respect you, your feelings and your taxes after getting into office? No way 
The earlier you accept that there is nothing like democratic politics, the better for your mental health. Things look good in theory, but when it comes to practice, humans become very predictable.

[BADecker]

^^^ Right. 'Democracy' is just another word for group dictatorship. That's why the founding fathers of the USA included the Republic, which is over the US Democracy.

The first thing for the people of America to do is to learn common law, the way the Republic works, so they can control the Democracy through court action.

The second thing they should do is push legal law through that makes the platform of elected officials to be a contract with the people. The penalty for not fulfilling the contract is death.

The practical thing they should do right now is, start using Bitcoin for all their transacting. Make PMA unincorporated Bitcoin banks, and let the Federal Reserve Bank die for lack of users.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Russia wanted to be part of NATO but United States said NO, but they kept accepting more countries to be part of NATO and moving towards Russia border.

You seriously think that?
Fun Facts: NATO was created specifically to counter Russia's taking over Hungry, Poland, and several other small countries after WW2. It has ALWAYS been on the border of countries Russia controlled.

The only reason it is moving towards the Russian border proper is because Hungry, Poland et al left the sphere of Russian influence to stand their own as Sovereign nations. Because they rightly feared Russia would eventually want to take them back is why they joined NATO.

[BADecker]

Russia wanted to be part of NATO but United States said NO, but they kept accepting more countries to be part of NATO and moving towards Russia border.

You seriously think that?
Fun Facts: NATO was created specifically to counter Russia's taking over Hungry, Poland, and several other small countries after WW2. It has ALWAYS been on the border of countries Russia controlled.

The only reason it is moving towards the Russian border proper is because Hungry, Poland et al left the sphere of Russian influence to stand their own as Sovereign nations. Because they rightly feared Russia would eventually want to take them back is why they joined NATO.

And Russia didn't complain much when NATO broke its treaties to not expand. But the point why Ukraine is different is this.

Ukraine did it violently against Russians who had been living in Ukraine for decades. The Ukraine violence showed that they were starting to literally and forcefully act against Russia.

Even today, if the war ended just like that, Russia wouldn't mind if Ukraine traded with the rest of Europe like they did for years before the war. The problem exists when the leaders of NATO and the EU use Ukraine to violently push towards taking Russia over. Russia is defending itself. That's all.





EDIT: Of course Putin has respect for Democracy. Democracy is just another name for Group Dictatorship, the exact thing that Russia and the US have... in different forms, of course.