WWIII has started!

[Vod]

Israel has killed Iran's leader.   There will now be internal fighting as well as water issues.  Poor people. 

[Hispo]

Posting this historial thread.
What a way to escalate things in the middle east ...
I wonder who this will eventually affect the stability of the Islamic Republic of Iran...

Something is safe to say, tho... It seems Trump wants to go down on history as the president who got rid of how many regimes as possible on the world: first Maduro and now this... I wonder whether he would dare to go out for Putin (unlike, considering how Russia still have access to nuclear weapons).

[Marykeller]

The United States of America and Israel lunched an attack on Iran and Today, Iran launched offensive strikes mainly via ballistic missiles and drones against Israel and the Gulf states hosting U.S. bases  which are Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Jordan and Iraq, as a retaliation.
And according to Iran they will not keep quiet and they will surely fight back.

I went online and I saw some pictures on the internet and some set of people dead as a result of the attack the US government and Israel lunched on Iran and also the one that Iran lunched to all this countries I listed above today.
The citizens are always the people to die and suffer at the end of the day.

I think it’s high time the US government redirect their steps to avoid another world war.




This war will last for some time. Just feeling for citizens right now.

Within 24 hours, all these happened "missiles were thrown at five different countries, and the elimination of Iran's Supreme leader.

The news that Iran's Supreme Leader has been eliminated is true. It happened that Buster Bomb for the underground bunker was used to eliminate him from the underground bunker where he hid himself, so that he would not be touched. He didn't know that he couldn't hide for too long with his military chiefs for firing missiles in five different countries at the same time

[Lida93]

Israel has killed Iran's leader.   There will now be internal fighting as well as water issues.  Poor people. 

Could have being different, but, country and world leaders chooses conflict over simple peaceful  coexistence. With the "heavy strikes and pinpoint bombing" the casualties will continue to rise. Destroying many innocent civilian lives to get at one man.

With the news being true as I have also read in different papers this morning about the killing of Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, then there can't be any escalation for a ww3. Which I believe you were only exaggerating in your thread title.

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[_Miracle]

Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi The Shah of Iran and SAVAK (1976) | 60 Minutes Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RH2wXQtFdo
At about 55 seconds in he hints at the influence of lobbyists (Money in politics)

These organizations have more influence over our leaders in the United States than us people.



American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)
J Street   
Christians United for Israel   
Republican Jewish Coalition   
Zionist Organization of America
Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism   

Children of the poor (as is the case all around the world) are indoctrinated into serving from a young age.
I hope the youths who have been protesting get a chance to be heard but Irans power structure may turn out to be a sticking point

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/inside/govt.html

[NotATether]

Quoting here because the other thread is locked.

Moron?! The only Fvckn moron has got to be Donald Trump and the US government allowing themselves to be dragged into isreals war which doesn't affect the American people.

They striked and bombed US bases.

These speculations are exhausting because there's news of him and the defence minister being alive and well.

Lol, perception is everything, these are your opinions and perspective.

It affects us and the rest of the world greatly.

They took our personnel hostage.

Sent proxies to Yemen to destabilize global shipping.

Armed Hamas, committing one of the worst massacres over 2 years ago, including Americans.

Chanted "Death to America" and wanted to genocide the Jewish community.

Regularly ran cyberattacks against western critical infrastructure.

Killed tens of thousands of their own people just for supporting western values.

And then when they realized they were going down in an inferno, sent Shaheed drones everywhere, including hitting other Arab countries and their own school.

Trump is actually the good guy here. He made the change that other world leaders demanded Iran do but were afraid to do themselves. And he wrapped it out quickly, so no prolonged war. Most Iranians hate the government, and are happy to see they can finally have a shot at freedom like other normal people.

It is a cruel irony to see the internet losing their minds over his death, as if he would care about ours! The man only cared about martyrdom, that's it. If he was actually a good dude, they'd be helping their poverty-striken brothers in religion in neighboring countries, but he doesn't, so that tells you all you need to know about him.

[sleepfirefly]

iran’s supreme leader is now dead. this seems like war to me. i wonder which countries would side with iran and which ones will side with us or israel. middle eastern countries will definitely take sides because they are the ones most affected by the attacks.

can china take this as an opportunity to side with usa’s enemies?

[hostm]

Chinese Defense Ministry Spokesperson Zhang Xiaogang:

"The United States is war-obsessed. Over its more than 240-year history, it has been at war for almost all but 16 years. The United States maintains 800 overseas military bases in more than 80 countries and regions. The United States is the main cause of international disorder, global turbulence, and regional conflicts."

[laijsica]

iran’s supreme leader is now dead. this seems like war to me. i wonder which countries would side with iran and which ones will side with us or israel. middle eastern countries will definitely take sides because they are the ones most affected by the attacks.

can china take this as an opportunity to side with usa’s enemies?

China is a privileged country. They use strategies for their own benefit. They understand the power of the US and will not do anything outside their own interests. They will be hesitant to speak for Iran because they do not think about anything other than their own interests.

Iran will not be able to continue the war with its limited strength for long. In the face of the massive military capabilities of the US and Israel, Iran's military capabilities will collapse in just a few days and the morale of the fighters will be greatly damaged by the death of their supreme leader.

Iran's financial capacity is weak and they have no effective allies who can come to their aid. Every country will try to save itself because the US and Israel have the ability to strategically influence almost every country in the world.

[Baseplate]

Israel has killed Iran's leader.   There will now be internal fighting as well as water issues.  Poor people. 

Have people not learned what happened to Libya? Jesus Christ

[Oluwa-btc]

It affects us and the rest of the world greatly.

They took our personnel hostage.

Sent proxies to Yemen to destabilize global shipping.

Armed Hamas, committing one of the worst massacres over 2 years ago, including Americans.

Chanted "Death to America" and wanted to genocide the Jewish community.

Regularly ran cyberattacks against western critical infrastructure.

Killed tens of thousands of their own people just for supporting western values.

And then when they realized they were going down in an inferno, sent Shaheed drones everywhere, including hitting other Arab countries and their own school.

Trump is actually the good guy here. He made the change that other world leaders demanded Iran do but were afraid to do themselves. And he wrapped it out quickly, so no prolonged war. Most Iranians hate the government, and are happy to see they can finally have a shot at freedom like other normal people.

It is a cruel irony to see the internet losing their minds over his death, as if he would care about ours! The man only cared about martyrdom, that's it. If he was actually a good dude, they'd be helping their poverty-striken brothers in religion in neighboring countries, but he doesn't, so that tells you all you need to know about him.

Is it not laughable when you write about the rest of the world?! Who bombed iraq, and lybia?! Who funded and helped see the children of Palestine bombed to ashes?! Who did all that?! Or have you forgotten?!

They took your personal hostage, how?! Because they've left their own lands to go organise regime change, is that not?!

Now you have forgotten who armed Saudi Arabia in Yemen?!

So who funded the IDF soldiers with arms to commit Genocide?! Who has held more regime changes schemes around the world in the last fifty years?! Who is sponsoring and funding terrorism around Africa and mainly in the Sahel regions?! Who?!

"Killed tens of thousands of their own people" The Iranian government said those are people helping the CIA tear them from inside. And you talk bout killing their own people now, but you do not when the millions of people in Gazaare being starved and being nuked. SMH.

The intent was only to strike American bases and bout American bases, why do they've so much around Iran?! The American government are doing too much to tear down the oldest civilization.  And about school's?! We all know who bombed a school yesterday!!

Donald Trump?! You mean Donald Trump the pedophile who raped a minor is the good guy? Wow!! I'm not perplexed, this is exactly how American citizens see the truth right in front of them but chose otherwise to support their satanic political representatives. And no, Donald Trump us not the good guy and the same I will say about the American government. They have never been the good guys,  I will not fall for these propaganda merchants.

 I can not say nothing about his death, the Iranian government continues with their mission regardless, it is not built around one man. I'm still not confident he is dead. Time will deff tell. Well, they might not, but they're not the empire benefiting directly from destabilising other countries lol. They're no cowards at least, they stood up to face those turning Palestine to a children graveyard and cemetery.

[MusaPk]

Trump is looking to hijack the Iranian leader like he did with Venezuela's president, in his speech, he knew his men would fall but have to do this for the future of US, whose government has reviewed to the world their biggest fear - Iran owning a nuclear weapon. The war would go on for sometime as Iran won't retreat that easily, they've been known as a warzone. As for the China and Russia support, they had same back up in Venezuela when the US Army intervened. It didn't work, and won't work.

Two nuclear states attacking a non-nuclear state to stop him from acquiring nuclear weapons. We have seen how ruthlessly Israel carried out genocide in GAZA for last two years while the world watch silently and no action has been taken to stop that genocide. Its now officially confirmed that Iran Supreme leader Khamenei is no more. Iran has strong defence compared to Venezuela that's why US and Israel didn't go for operation like they did in Venezuela. Iran is only country in the region whose leadership is not under US control and thats why they want regime change in Iran.    

[Olatundespo]

Israel has attacked Iran.   They are now in a state of war.  Since I started typing this the US has attacked as well. 

Meanwhile, the country's media has confirmed the death of Iran supreme religious leader. This has caused extreme anger in the IRGC and they have announced revenge. The US administration continues to do all it can to keep the world in its favour, but behind the scenes, they are strengthening Israel. Israel, which is about to emerge as the next powerful country after America, has kept its policy of expanding its country's territory intact and is waging a war to eliminate Hamas. In the meantime, this attack is to force Iran to abandon its policy of expanding missiles and nuclear weapons. But Iran has already announced the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which will cause financial and commercial instability in the world.

[_Miracle]

As an American I don't agree with this war or Trump --> my "wild" opinion is that he's willing to take out the world before he faces consequences for the Epstein files + war is profitable to wealthy people and they do not care if us little people suffer and die --> it excites some of them.


I lean more towards historians than news outlets right now.
The US as an aggressor and [openly] regime changer is a new posture. Typically in the past we were lied to regarding motivations for war.
One of Trump's campaign messages was that Kamala would take us to war and that he would negotiate peace -->everywhere.

Trumps Board of Peace is a work around against the United Nations; people who want power don't like to be told what to do.
77+ million US citizens voted for him and too many of them are still ok with whatever he does. They think we should "put America 1st". Which we have always done.

 
Jeffrey Sachs: US & Israel Attack Iran - War Is Spreading Across the Region
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo8lxyjkCY  <--it's 33 minutes but Jeffrey Sachs will be the informed and dissenting voice you probably won't hear on the news
He gets his dig in on CIA/Iran regime change in 1953 and CIA/Kennedy


"War is a Racket"
"Now get out there and kill, kill, kill."


P.S. for Vod
There are already water wars + the commodification of water and now add more A.I. data centers :-/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Gold:_World_Water_Wars  (2008 Documentary)

Water - Blue Gold World Water Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN2bFkuiSYc

[Btcdeybodi]

Posting this historial thread.
What a way to escalate things in the middle east ...
I wonder who this will eventually affect the stability of the Islamic Republic of Iran...

Something is safe to say, tho... It seems Trump wants to go down on history as the president who got rid of how many regimes as possible on the world: first Maduro and now this... I wonder whether he would dare to go out for Putin (unlike, considering how Russia still have access to nuclear weapons).

I doubt if Donald Trump can come for any of the BRICS countries especially Russia and China because it would be like fighting against the 10 countries that makes up the BRICS alliance so he is choosing his fight diplomatically. I think the US government is a catalyst because forming allegiance with Israel to fight Iran is a stupid thing to do because at the end of the day, Israel will bear the brunt while the US remains unharmed. Anyway, i'm not surprised because the US and Israel share a strong bond and the US has always lent a helping hand each time Israel is in trouble.

[NotATether]

Is it not laughable when you write about the rest of the world?! Who bombed iraq, and lybia?! Who funded and helped see the children of Palestine bombed to ashes?! Who did all that?! Or have you forgotten?!

They took your personal hostage, how?! Because they've left their own lands to go organise regime change, is that not?!

Now you have forgotten who armed Saudi Arabia in Yemen?!

So who funded the IDF soldiers with arms to commit Genocide?! Who has held more regime changes schemes around the world in the last fifty years?! Who is sponsoring and funding terrorism around Africa and mainly in the Sahel regions?! Who?!

"Killed tens of thousands of their own people" The Iranian government said those are people helping the CIA tear them from inside. And you talk bout killing their own people now, but you do not when the millions of people in Gazaare being starved and being nuked. SMH.

The intent was only to strike American bases and bout American bases, why do they've so much around Iran?! The American government are doing too much to tear down the oldest civilization.  And about school's?! We all know who bombed a school yesterday!!

Donald Trump?! You mean Donald Trump the pedophile who raped a minor is the good guy? Wow!! I'm not perplexed, this is exactly how American citizens see the truth right in front of them but chose otherwise to support their satanic political representatives. And no, Donald Trump us not the good guy and the same I will say about the American government. They have never been the good guys,  I will not fall for these propaganda merchants.

 I can not say nothing about his death, the Iranian government continues with their mission regardless, it is not built around one man. I'm still not confident he is dead. Time will deff tell. Well, they might not, but they're not the empire benefiting directly from destabilising other countries lol. They're no cowards at least, they stood up to face those turning Palestine to a children graveyard and cemetery.

So, let me ask you an honest question.

Do you think it is justified now for Iran to be launching missiles at civilian targets in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain?

[BitBakerr1]

With all the life that was lost in previous wars, world leaders are still involve in causing war in different countries, it is disappointing that all these are happening. When I was watching some attack I saw that some people died because of those attack, the life of people are not the interest of all these leaders. They are all interested in dominating, they don’t care about their citizens life.
I really don’t understand why US is always involve in fighting wars that are not even relevant. Why are they always attacking smaller countries? It is not fair at all and if they continue with this attacks, they are doing to small countries. It will result to world war. And gain if Iran wants to have nuclear weapon that will be used to protect them self I see no reason why the US government are stopping them except they are using it to attack other countries.

[Oluwa-btc]

So, let me ask you an honest question.

Do you think it is justified now for Iran to be launching missiles at civilian targets in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain?

It could whatever historical hatred they have for these names mentioned, another reason is that the US make use of these bases located in these countries above to target them. This is war yes?! So they have every right to defend themselves whenever these bases are used to target them. I won't call it that, but they have to do what they have to do to survive. Nobody talk Justice when Israel attacks, Lebanon, Syria,  Iran, Iraq and Palestine. SMH.

[hellflame]

To the great Iranian people. Do NOT allow these marxist antiChrists to rule over your country! They are communists customised for the muslim world and serve the powers of satan. DO NOT BE DECEIVED!

If the US allows these communists to take control of Iran it will be clear that they all serve satan and the antichrist.



https://x.com/Maryam_Rajavi


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Rajavi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Shariati#Shariati_and_socialism



The People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (PMOI), also known as Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MEK) or Mojahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO; Persian: سازمان مجاهدین خلق ایران, romanized: Sâzmân-e Mojâhedin-e Khalgh-e Irân), is an Iranian dissident organization. It was an armed group until 2003, afterwards transitioning into a political group. Its headquarters is currently in Albania. The group's ideology was influenced by Islam and revolutionary Marxism;

[Kavelj22]

China would not attack USA with hydrogen bomb. If they start they would lose more. Its population is very condense. China has the advantage without using HBombs.

I was only talking about the reason United States cannot attack China. Countries that build nuclear weapon are using it as an umbrella.

Who is the fool to dare attacking China, the factory of the world? It would be a big mistake to play with the dormant satan by attacking China in its land. In addition to be exposed to Chinese response (nuclear power, modern weapons, huge number of soldiers) he will face a chronic economic crisis because every power you see today is somehow depending on Chinese products in one way or another.

However this doesn't mean there are no ongoing war against China. But not all wars are similar. While the military option is available against Iran or other third world countries, there are other options with giant powers like China or Russia. The USA uses the ttading war against China and practice pressures over China allies in a try to reduce Chinese influence arround the world, but never think to eliminate it in full. It's almost the same situation with Russia as no one wants to get involved in a losing war against the Russian bear. Instead that it's more efficient to push its neighbors to a proxy war (Ukraine) or fight its allies arround the world.

Note that that actual war on Iran isn't isolated from the main fight against China. Stop cooperation with China was one of the major topics during the last negotiations between Iran and the USA.