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March 01, 2026, 04:22:50 AM
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Urging Iranians to overthrow their clerical rulers, the US launched "major combat operations" along with Israel against Iran early on Saturday.

The US is calling the operation "Epic Fury", while the Israelis call it "Lion's Roar".

Trump argued Iran had rejected every opportunity to renounce its nuclear programme and claimed it was developing long-range missiles that could threaten Europe, US troops overseas, and even "soon reach the American homeland"
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trump’s reasoning for their attacks to iran sounds like it’s for the greater good. he paints iran to be the evil one and america the savior. does anyone believe him? or is it common sense that us is just wanting the oil in middle east? or are there other reasons why iran was attacked?
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March 01, 2026, 05:46:20 AM
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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.

That man was just killed, another supreme leader will likely be elected and follow the supreme leader legacy. I may not be right but that is what I think.

or is it common sense that us is just wanting the oil in middle east?
I do not think so.
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March 01, 2026, 06:25:50 AM
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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.
Only a fool would believe those numbers, the US was gonna strike Iran sooner or later, Israel has them by the balls.

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March 01, 2026, 11:14:39 AM
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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.
If you believe what the Western media portrays, the US and Israeli propaganda, then it's on you. Remember the Iraq invasion in search of WMDs?



does anyone believe him? or is it common sense that us is just wanting the oil in middle east? or are there other reasons why iran was attacked?
I don't believe any bit of what he says. Innocent people are going to die because Israel and the US just felt threatened by a country that did not start any single war with them. The US is trying as much as possible to crumble China's allies.

After restricting oil exports from Venezuela, China may have switched to acquiring most of the oil from Iran. Now do the math  Grin

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March 01, 2026, 12:27:44 PM
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Even if they are building a nuclear weapon it should not be a concern for US or Israel and many reports says that they are nowhere near building a nuclear weapon but US kept blaming them for having one so it's obvious that their next search of oil resource is from Iran so they will blame or spread any lie to make the world think that US is saving the world rather than destorying the lives.

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March 01, 2026, 08:26:27 PM
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My own is that some will believe him reasons because they love his government, also trust him and sees Iran as a threat to them while others won't have the believe because of the past ward which they do believe that it will have a hidden reason. This kind of situation opinions matter alot and it doesn't favour one side so it all depends on who is been asked and how they see global politics.

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March 01, 2026, 08:27:59 PM
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Looking at the map along side with Iran, it's with Syria and Iraq. You can see on how it went for these two countries when the US has meddled with their politics there and also attacked them before. I was still quite young at those times and so, I can't vividly remember. I guess that for every attack, for every war that they trigger, there's always the agenda that it is in favor. As they say, their business is war and they make more money from triggering it. And that's why when an economic collapse is about to happen, they'll make it happen to at least make a sound from their attacks.

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March 02, 2026, 12:27:10 PM
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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.
If you believe what the Western media portrays, the US and Israeli propaganda, then it's on you. Remember the Iraq invasion in search of WMDs?

A more recent and practical example is Venezuela. Previously, Trump and his administration had accused Maduro of being a drug trafficker and a drug terrorist. But then what? After arresting Maduro, what they are doing in Venezuela is exploiting oil and oil, nothing more.
It would be naive to believe everything the Western media says without verifying it yourself.

does anyone believe him? or is it common sense that us is just wanting the oil in middle east? or are there other reasons why iran was attacked?
I don't believe any bit of what he says. Innocent people are going to die because Israel and the US just felt threatened by a country that did not start any single war with them. The US is trying as much as possible to crumble China's allies.

After restricting oil exports from Venezuela, China may have switched to acquiring most of the oil from Iran. Now do the math  Grin

More precisely, they are trying to prevent the formation of a multipolar world. A world where their power would weaken and they would lose their dominance.

Are you referring to Russia?  Cheesy

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March 02, 2026, 02:33:00 PM
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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.
I don't think so, because Isreal Prime minister said that he's happy that the US collabo with him to strike Iran that they made what he has been thinking over 40 years come to pass. This means Isreal had it in mind ever since to strike Iran and the US helped them achieve that goal. Lebanon Hezbollah group lunched a missile/drone on Isreal to retaliate for the death of Iran Supreme leader. Russia is looking on how to take sides for Iran.

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March 02, 2026, 03:11:04 PM
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Ia m not ready to argue with anyone about the attack on Iranian soil but I condemn such an attack and it is unconstitutional for America to kill another country's head of state. This kind of of attack might be bringing us to a total world war 3 which most of us might not understand how its going to be started. I urge everyone to stay vigilant and never to support unethical politics against one another.

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or are there other reasons why iran was attacked?

If you pay attention, you will notice that the countries recently attacked by the US are all countries with fairly close ties to China.

Venezuela is an important ally and a major supplier of oil to China. Similarly, 80% of Iran's oil is exported to China, and the two countries are close allies. Add to that the trade war, and when we put all these events together. It is not difficult to see that the US goal is to contain the rise and expansion of China.

In my opinion, any war that takes place in the world is simply a confrontation between superpowers. China, Russia, and US are at war with each other, and they are using countries like Iran and Ukraine as proxy battlefields.

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Had it been there were no record of death from the number of protesters, because this claimed thousands of this protesters trying to speak out for freedom and expressing their heartfelt towards the bad economy in the country, the Iranian government couldn't have used the force level to this extent to curb the people from protesting, instead, they are expected to take lead and address the issue or possible solution to help the masses with the situation than shutting them up by Force.

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Even if they are building a nuclear weapon it should not be a concern for US or Israel and many reports says that they are nowhere near building a nuclear weapon but US kept blaming them for having one so it's obvious that their next search of oil resource is from Iran so they will blame or spread any lie to make the world think that US is saving the world rather than destorying the lives.
Anyone who knows a bit about western conspiracies and propaganda would not believe even a thing that Trump nor any US media outlet says. They portray Iran as the beast and the bad guys, while it is them that has been destroying Iran economy from the onset. I still have my reservations on everything the US have made people believe about strong leaders who they conquered, most times when I read their profiles, I have more reasons to believe the US have been deceiving the world to preserve their own interests.

This time they are weakening China and Russia as much as they can since they obviously cannot go into a direct war with them and so are weakening all their allies especially China as Iran happens to be a major supply of oil after Venezuela was cut off.

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The greatest mistake that the Iranian supreme leader made was that he killed thousands of protesters. US used it to invade the country in a way that no one will want to support Iranian supreme leader which is now dead.

That man was just killed, another supreme leader will likely be elected and follow the supreme leader legacy. I may not be right but that is what I think.

Honestly that act of killing the protesters (the Citizens) was a wrong move and they gave the Iran leader time for peace talk and reconsider all he and his government are doing but they felt they have every weapon to go toe to toe with US as well as Israel, that's why we are here talking about them. For me peace talk would have solved this whole war talks and the Supreme leader of Iran wasn't ready for that at all.
If another leader would be elected I don't think it will be now that the whole place is being heated, they all need to recover what they lost like putting the country in order before thinking of going for an election and I hope they do things the right way when that time comes.

 
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American here: NO. For 15 years "Iran has been weeks - 6 months from developing nuclear weapons".
The lie for last September's bombing was that we took out Iran's nuclear capability.



The lie that Trump is protecting protestors from the government? Look at what is happening with ICE in America.
Although... "Suddenly" ICE and the Epstein Files aren't getting much coverage right now.

Think of the pressures that have been pushing people out into and onto the streets all around the world.
Pay attention to who profits and who suffers.

I hope people wake up.

Our short attention spans is something empire counts on. Start reading a little history or watch short scholarly lectures + add them in with the spectacle of curated headlines

There 'used' to be more truth in forums than anywhere else. TikTok Miracle2aT  Spock: "I am expressing multiple attitudes simultaneously. To which are you referring?"  INTJ-A
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does anyone believe him?

You would be surprised , check the first reply to your post. He really thinks that thousands of protesters were killed in Iran, despite zero evidence. It’s the same people who believe that the 100k+ Palestinians killed by the IDF were all either Hamas or human shields.

The propaganda machine, which was built on the sweat and tears of the average Western citizen, has been brainwashing everyone in the West. Thanks to open-source media and independent platforms, many of them are waking up nowadays, but there are still millions who believe Israel is a victim, that the U.S. wants to spread democracy, that it’s okay for U.S. soldiers to die on the other side of the planet, and all the other things that nobody who actually lives in the South or East believes..

 
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does anyone believe him?

You would be surprised , check the first reply to your post. He really thinks that thousands of protesters were killed in Iran, despite zero evidence. It’s the same people who believe that the 100k+ Palestinians killed by the IDF were all either Hamas or human shields.

The propaganda machine, which was built on the sweat and tears of the average Western citizen, has been brainwashing everyone in the West. Thanks to open-source media and independent platforms, many of them are waking up nowadays, but there are still millions who believe Israel is a victim, that the U.S. wants to spread democracy, that it’s okay for U.S. soldiers to die on the other side of the planet, and all the other things that nobody who actually lives in the South or East believes..

Mikey it was a numbers game 1300 killed in the attack against Israel means 100x Palestinians had to die.

base on attrition tactics.

Ie if moslems kill 1000 jews and jews kill say 10,000 moslems eventually jews cease to exist  and moslems will still have people left.

So when Israel loses people they usually claim a higher loss and then shoot for 100x kill off of Moslems for payback revenge.

It's terrible but it is what they do.

And yeah a ton of people were killed in Palestine for being born in the wrong location on earth.


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