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March 02, 2026, 04:02:07 PM
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I would like to raise a discussion regarding the trust system and the concept of reputation recovery on the forum.
After applying for a campaign,  God of Thunder’s trust feedback caught my attention, I noticed a mixed trust summary (+5 / 4 / -7). Some of the negative feedback references link him to naim027, allegedly as an alt account.
This thread is not created to defend or accuse anyone. I am simply trying to understand the trust system more.

I want to raise these 4 points for discussion:

1. Reputation Recovery:
If a user receives negative feedback due to past rule violations or association with questionable accounts, is there a realistic path toward reputation recovery?
Under what conditions would DT members consider revising or removing negative feedback?

2. Scam vs. Rule Violation:
Some feedback references “scam”  implications. However, I could not easily locate clear scam proof threads. Is there scam evidence? Or is the negative trust primarily based on alt account association and rule violations?
Understanding this distinction is important for users considering participating in campaigns managed by GoT.

3. Business Continuity Despite Red Trust:
Despite negative trust, GoT continues managing campaigns and operating publicly.
Does mixed feedback reduce clarity in the trust system?
Should the trust system differentiate more clearly between confirmed scams and reputation concerns?

4. The Role of Forgiveness in the Trust System:
Is the trust system purely protective or does it also allow room for demonstrated reform over time?
If a user shows consistent good behavior over an extended period, should that factor into reassessment?

Important Clarification:
  • I was not asked to create this thread.
  • I have no prior interaction with GoT.
  • I am asking from the perspective of a campaign participant who wants to avoid promoting any questionable project.

I would appreciate input from DT members and experienced users regarding:
  • How they evaluate long-term behavior change
  • Whether forgiveness has a place in the trust system
  • How conflicting feedback should be interpreted


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March 02, 2026, 06:46:41 PM
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1. Reputation Recovery:
If a user receives negative feedback due to past rule violations or association with questionable accounts, is there a realistic path toward reputation recovery?
Under what conditions would DT members consider revising or removing negative feedback?
Depends on what the offense is, the severity of the offense and whether it is past/present behavior and whether there is an established pattern of this kind of behavior. Why would you provide a reputation recovery path for someone who has established this kind of behavior for half a decade or longer? Why would you be so naive to believe them? They definitely won't cheat you, the 50th time they were given a chance not to.  Wink

2. Scam vs. Rule Violation:
Some feedback references “scam”  implications. However, I could not easily locate clear scam proof threads. Is there scam evidence? Or is the negative trust primarily based on alt account association and rule violations?
Understanding this distinction is important for users considering participating in campaigns managed by GoT.
What exactly is a scam? People here have forgotten to use dictionaries and seem to believe that there must be a direct monetary loss for something to be a scam. Cambridge definition:

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noun: a dishonest plan for making money or getting an advantage, especially one that involves tricking people.
verb: to trick someone into giving you money or giving you some advantage, in a dishonest and often illegal way.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scam
Which part of this trust page makes it unclear to you that he is a scammer? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1187984

3. Business Continuity Despite Red Trust:
Despite negative trust, GoT continues managing campaigns and operating publicly.
Does mixed feedback reduce clarity in the trust system?
Should the trust system differentiate more clearly between confirmed scams and reputation concerns?
These things relate to signature campaigns, as DT members avoid leaving tags or flags on users who could be their future sources of income. Were the same things done by someone who wasn't a campaign manager or well pretended to be one like this user, then the scenario would be different. Mixed feedback absolutely reduces clarity, but some DT members will refuse to remove past ratings even if they were given under false assumption. For good reasons of course.

4. The Role of Forgiveness in the Trust System:
Is the trust system purely protective or does it also allow room for demonstrated reform over time?
If a user shows consistent good behavior over an extended period, should that factor into reassessment?
There were various cases of forgiveness, but again it depends on severity of behavior. Someone may have made some mistakes early on here, they didn't know the rules or what is the proper way to behave. In some cultures cheating is more common and more accepted than in others, it happens. However, someone who keeps coming back and cheating has no chance at forgiveness. You would be a fool to forgive someone like that.


You are aware that this user is supposed to be permanently banned? He's a serial ban evader, therefore his presence here at all is dishonest. Nothing he does can fix or change that.

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March 03, 2026, 12:25:10 AM
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Most of the questions you ask I believe can be answered by saying "it depends." All reputation issues should be handled on a situation-by-situation basis. Also, let's not overcomplicate things. The basis for a negative trust comes down to a pretty subjective but straight-forward standard:

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You think that trading with this person is high-risk.

That is all that is "required" to leave a negative feedback. Of course it helps if it comes with some kind of reasonable explanation.

In general, I would say forgiveness is a good virtue, and there are certainly times when the removal of old feedback may be warranted, but it should be reserved for those who have shown a commitment to clearing their name.

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March 03, 2026, 08:56:38 AM
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If a user receives negative feedback due to past rule violations or association with questionable accounts, is there a realistic path toward reputation recovery?
I don't think so. He had his second chance already years ago already, when naim027 was unbanned. How can you trust someone who knowingly mislead everyone?

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Should the trust system differentiate more clearly between confirmed scams and reputation concerns?
In an ideal world: yes. Too many red tags for tiny things make red tags lose it's meaning for the real scammers. But there's no different tag color between someone who didn't pay a $25 giveaway, and someone who scammed 16 Bitcoin, and the number of tags depends more on how "high profile" the case is than on the severity of the scam.

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If a user shows consistent good behavior over an extended period, should that factor into reassessment?
I don't really believe that. If it happens, it's rare. Scamming when an opportunity arises shows how someone acts when they think nobody's watching. To quote myself:
In my experience, many people are willing to act honest as long as there's a greater reward that way. The moment the benefits disappear, they show their true character.

I am asking from the perspective of a campaign participant who wants to avoid promoting any questionable project.
When in doubt: don't promote it!

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How they evaluate long-term behavior change
There's a saying: "once a thief, always a thief". I know there can be rare exceptions, but there's also another saying: "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". I believe both sayings were based on past experiences.

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How conflicting feedback should be interpreted
Just look at it as showing a timeline of events. Free Market Capitalist's neutral feedback 2 years ago was on to something: "It is clear to me that he is following a premeditated plan to build up trust.".

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March 03, 2026, 09:26:57 PM
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Thank you Satofan44, nutildah and LoyceV for your apt contributions.
Even if I don't have that 100% clarity, I have learnt more about the trust system.
  • It is not easy to reach a consensus in the trust system, assuming it's the Bitcoin network, there would have been too many forks Grin
  • There's no rigid rule to follow, almost every issues in the forum is treated case by case, situation by situation.

I also understand that many users (especially DT) do not actually want to write in this thread, maybe because of the nature of its content.
I will therefore lock this thread and follow my instinct.



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