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March 06, 2026, 03:27:47 PM
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I wonder how people are looking past the giant red flag on this user....

@Paypal Penny  -  Are the funds collected from these sales being sent to the user you still owe one full bitcoin to?

If they are... FINALLY!

If they are not... it's truly a DISGRACE that you are back here selling and it's disgraceful that others would support anything you create.

p.s.  I'm sure the owner of the kilogram of gold you "lost" probably wants a piece of those sales as well.
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March 06, 2026, 04:40:24 PM
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I wonder how people are looking past the giant red flag on this user....

@Paypal Penny  -  Are the funds collected from these sales being sent to the user you still owe one full bitcoin to?

If they are... FINALLY!

If they are not... it's truly a DISGRACE that you are back here selling and it's disgraceful that others would support anything you create.

p.s.  I'm sure the owner of the kilogram of gold you "lost" probably wants a piece of those sales as well.

Good morning, Brian. I thought it was time that you'd start with the rumors again. Remember when you claimed that I was dead broke, but then a few posts down, on the same thread page, you claimed that I was living the life of luxury as a millionaire? Or when I sold my beloved Jeep Wrangler in order to gather money to send customer refunds? You told everyone that I didn't sell it, and that it was a lease, when in fact, it was an old 2001 which was paid off in full years earlier. So many good times.

And as a side note, you may wish to rethink calling me "PayPal Penny." While I do enjoy good alliteration, I wonder if attacking me for accepting PayPal (in addition to the usual crypto) is the wisest choice. After all, every crypto-collectible-maker in the world will accept PayPal in the customer can't or doesn't wish to pay with crypto. I know a few of your favorite makers, and they all advertise that they accept PayPal. Accepting PayPal in order to make purchasing goods easier for the customer is not a bad thing, in my humble opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. But if I am wrong, then perhaps you should attack all your other favorite crypto-collectible-makers. Individual private sellers too. Just a thought.

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March 06, 2026, 06:57:57 PM
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Good morning, Brian. I thought it was time that you'd start with the rumors again.
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you may wish to rethink calling me "PayPal Penny."

PaypalPenny is perfect... you were never a believer.  you don't deserve the name bitcoin in your handle.  you turned every penny into fiat.  just the address in this thread alone has had over 121BTC accepted.  You kept NONE... 5% is nothing to put aside for a believer.  You wouldn't be here a disgraced maker who is in massive debt.  You'd be enjoying life like the believers who held on to some of their bits.

Rumors... that was not a smart thing to say you scumbag!!  You're claiming you don't owe anyone one full bitcoin for a one bitcoin loan you took years ago?  You haven't paid them a single Sat and you have the balls to call it a rumor.  You really are a piece of work. 
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March 06, 2026, 07:30:16 PM
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I am still owed as well for a prior release that was never fulfilled.
I will not be purchasing any new items until the item is delivered, or BTC refunded in full.
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March 06, 2026, 10:21:08 PM
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Good morning, Brian. I thought it was time that you'd start with the rumors again.
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you may wish to rethink calling me "PayPal Penny."

PaypalPenny is perfect... you were never a believer.  you don't deserve the name bitcoin in your handle.  you turned every penny into fiat.  just the address in this thread alone has had over 121BTC accepted.  You kept NONE... 5% is nothing to put aside for a believer.  You wouldn't be here a disgraced maker who is in massive debt.  You'd be enjoying life like the believers who held on to some of their bits.

Rumors... that was not a smart thing to say you scumbag!!  You're claiming you don't owe anyone one full bitcoin for a one bitcoin loan you took years ago?  You haven't paid them a single Sat and you have the balls to call it a rumor.  You really are a piece of work. 


Come on, man. You have absolutely no idea if I was / am a believer in crypto. LOL ("Believer" sounds a bit cultish, but you do you.) And yes, like every business that accepts crypto payments, we must liquidate those payments into fiat, because everyone with whom we do business requires payment in USD only. From private mints to printers and publishers to web services to monthly utilities to out-of-house production facilities to R&D to prototypes to special machinery to... Every company requires USD fiat to run, produce goods, and stay open. Every one of your beloved makers does this. It's just how business is done. To criticize us for accepting PayPal and/or converting crypto payments into USD is silly.

And not everything you think or say is a complete lie. I never said that. (But most of it's untrue or deceptively based on half-truths.) Perhaps you simply fell for rumors started by another person? I have no clue.

Yes, I do owe a debt on a bitcoin loan. What you may not realize is that while the loan was outstanding, I sent free merchandise to the loaner as a kind of interest payment. Every single product that we ever released, the loaner received at least one free. To be honest, the loaner may have made the loan payment back off simply reselling the free items. I know for a fact that the loaner resold just one of those free items for .15 BTC alone. That's from only one of the many free items. Plus, that loaner received quite a few massive discounts long before the loan ever began. Am I still in debt? Yes. Has the loaner made a profit? Yes. Regardless of these facts, the loan is really not any of your business.

As for other debts, as geophphreigh mentioned above, we owe 3 refunds on a long-term project that was such a dumpster fire failure in R&D / manufacturing, that we recently (last week) decided to abandon the project and simply issue refunds. (It's a shame, because the project was epic. Maybe too epic, as it turns out.)

So yes, we do have a few lingering company debts. Almost every company does. But those last few debts will be wiped away very soon. I think that you're still hung up on a couple years ago when we went through some very hard financial times and we owed several silver and gold coins to pre-order customers. However, you can breathe easy knowing that all those debts were settled long ago. Did those debts leave people with doubts and concerns about our viability as a company? Absolutely. But those debts have long been settled. I would argue that our history of settling all those debts (even if done slowly over a long period of time), proves that we are, in fact, doing the right thing and acting responsibly to the bitcoin community.

Look, it all boils down to this... You may still distrust us because of a serious financial disaster that we endured a few years ago. That's OK. You're allowed to feel however you feel. But continually trying to sabotage and publicly crucify us for financial problems that we settled long ago is simply...ungentlemanly. Why not say, "I distrusted you and thought you were a big scammer, but after seeing that you have been making things right since that time, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, wish you well, and look forward to hearing that all debts have been settled and your hard times are far behind you."

Anyway, I do hope that you will eventually realize the truth of our hard work and transparency in bringing fun, cool bitcoin collectibles to the crypto market (since 2015).

Until then, I wish you well. I genuinely do. Maybe you'll let me buy you a beer if we ever meet again. Like the old days.

Regards,
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March 06, 2026, 11:04:06 PM
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Freebie items wouldn't even cover the interest over the years... come on, get real.  You fucked over several people that treated you like family.  You were invited to personal residences, you broke bread with all of us then spit in our faces.  You could have been honest, but chose to try and hide the fact and spiraled deeper into debt.  You took presale money to chase the debt and didn't deliver... you borrowed to chase the debt and never paid any of it back.  YOU made TERRIBLE decisions within your business... especially adding employee #2.  Dumbest thing you ever did TBH.  We all know it!  Your company could barely support one employee let alone a second.  I won't go any further unless you want me to really get into it...  Maybe reach out to the person you owe... start paying them back.  Make an effort instead of burying your head in the sand and pretending all is good.  If you don't think their blood boils every time you make sales and send them nothing then you are delusional.  Make people whole that you took money from but NEVER delivered and it's been years!  You have not kept up with customers you've owed, you just vanished for a long time.  As much as I wish all this never happened, it did.  I'm sorry I could never trust you again and I don't think anyone else should either.  

p.s.  don't make the BF items you talked about with keys.  a maker in deep debt who lied about it for a long time with access to peoples bits, what could go wrong? Roll Eyes


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It's absurd you play this off like a nothing burger... "all companies have debt.. blah blah blah"  I can't shake my head enough at you.
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March 07, 2026, 06:47:36 PM
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After all, every crypto-collectible-maker in the world will accept PayPal in the customer can't or doesn't wish to pay with crypto.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I have never and will never accept PayPal for any coin capable of holding crypto despite being asked to do so hundreds of times over the years.

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After all, every crypto-collectible-maker in the world will accept PayPal in the customer can't or doesn't wish to pay with crypto.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I have never and will never accept PayPal for any coin capable of holding crypto despite being asked to do so hundreds of times over the years.

I don't often agree with you but I do here.

Effective 1/1/23 i exited all banks - I use Bitcoin for nearly everything - if theycwont take bitcoin I use either fold or gemini to pay with usd that i converted from Bitcoin. I never have more than a few USD ever.

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After all, every crypto-collectible-maker in the world will accept PayPal in the customer can't or doesn't wish to pay with crypto.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I have never and will never accept PayPal for any coin capable of holding crypto despite being asked to do so hundreds of times over the years.

I would never accept PayPal either
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BitcoinPenny, I suggest reporting the spam on your sales thread.

 
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March 09, 2026, 06:37:22 PM
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@Paypal Penny  -  Are the funds collected from these sales being sent to the user you still owe one full bitcoin to?

I notice they did not answer your question about stolen/owed coins, same as OgNasty.  You, KWH, or any of the dozens affected by these thieves should create a tracking topic.  Each time one of these scammers claim they never blah, blah, blah - we can point them to the current state of their debts.   Smiley

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@Paypal Penny  -  Are the funds collected from these sales being sent to the user you still owe one full bitcoin to?

I notice they did not answer your question about stolen/owed coins, same as OgNasty.  You, KWH, or any of the dozens affected by these thieves should create a tracking topic.  Each time one of these scammers claim they never blah, blah, blah - we can point them to the current state of their debts.   Smiley

I have never stolen anything nor do I owe anyone anything. It is weird that you try to make every complaint about me. I really think you should get some help. You haven’t even left BitcoinPenny feedback but you’re here calling him a thief just to try and make the topic about me. Your obsession isn’t healthy.

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March 09, 2026, 09:51:48 PM
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I really think you should get some help.

I'm trying, but you keep delaying your evidence.   OgNasty owes KWH and he claims his brother will not return the coins to him to pay his victims back.   And OgNasty still holds stolen coins from the community - causing Theymos to distrust and fire him.  The question is outstanding - is nonakip OgNasty's brother?  (I know he is but the victims want to hear the reasons for your estrangement from your brother from you.)

@Bitcoin Penny - OgNasty is hinting you may be a thief.  Will you answer anonminer's question?

@OgNasty - if you stop calling me a liar, I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.    Wink

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March 09, 2026, 09:59:34 PM
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Are the funds collected from these sales being sent to the user you still owe one full bitcoin to?

Wouldn't that make it a ponzi scheme?   Cheesy

All kidding aside, I'm sorry to see BP's fall from grace.  He was one of the coolest vendors in the collectables section in my early days on the forum, and his DIY products were highly regarded by me, for one.  I haven't been aware of all that's transpired in recent years, but I hope BP pulls it together.

I notice they did not answer your question about stolen/owed coins

I don't see any allegation of stolen coins.  Just a debt and lost gold, and to BP's credit he did respond to those allegations in his second post.  As for anonymousminer's question of whether the money to pay off his debts is coming from current sales, where else would it come  from?  And honestly, it's none of our business.  BP's debt his and his lender's business and if his lender isn't complaining, it's none of ours.

Honestly, this whole thread seems like an unnecessary burst of fuel in a personal and ongoing flame war.  I've developed a lot of respect for anonymousminer in recent months, but if BP is taking steps to own up to his faults and right the ship, I think it's worth giving him credit for that, and giving him the time to get his shit together.  His previous reputation should afford him that much grace at the very least.

 
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March 09, 2026, 10:05:02 PM
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I notice they did not answer your question about stolen/owed coins

I don't see any allegation of stolen coins.  Just a debt and lost gold, and to BP's credit he did respond to those allegations in his second post.  As for anonymousminer's question of whether the money to pay off his debts is coming from current sales, where else would it come  from?  And honestly, it's none of our business.  BP's debt his and his lender's business and if his lender isn't complaining, it's none of ours.

Honestly, this whole thread seems like an unnecessary burst of fuel in a personal and ongoing flame war.  I've developed a lot of respect for anonymousminer in recent months, but if BP is taking steps to own up to his faults and right the ship, I think it's worth giving him credit for that, and giving him the time to get his shit together.  His previous reputation should afford him that much grace at the very least.

OgNasty's hypocrisy is the reason I posted.   His decades long editing spree is a "LLMBJ" and I just want to point out he was guilty of the unfounded accusations against BP.

Your obsession isn’t healthy.

Maybe, but the end result is.  Submit your sworn evidence and let's move forward with facts.

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Today at 04:01:17 AM
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Honestly, this whole thread seems like an unnecessary burst of fuel in a personal and ongoing flame war.  I've developed a lot of respect for anonymousminer in recent months, but if BP is taking steps to own up to his faults and right the ship, I think it's worth giving him credit for that, and giving him the time to get his shit together.  His previous reputation should afford him that much grace at the very least.

He's not paying any of the debt back.  That's the issue.  I reached out yesterday and asked if he had been contacted after I shook the tree.  They said they had not.  PaypalPenny should not be trusted in any way at all.

This was split off his WTS thread... I wanted to warn others... it ended up here.  I guess Mitchell/Theymos are right, if people want to look past the red flag and tags, they deserve to get scammed.
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Today at 04:12:30 AM
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Honestly, this whole thread seems like an unnecessary burst of fuel in a personal and ongoing flame war.  I've developed a lot of respect for anonymousminer in recent months, but if BP is taking steps to own up to his faults and right the ship, I think it's worth giving him credit for that, and giving him the time to get his shit together.  His previous reputation should afford him that much grace at the very least.

He's not paying any of the debt back.  That's the issue.  I reached out yesterday and asked if he had been contacted after I shook the tree.  They said they had not.  PaypalPenny should not be trusted in any way at all.

This was split off his WTS thread... I wanted to warn others... it ended up here.  I guess Mitchell/Theymos are right, if people want to look past the red flag and tags, they deserve to get scammed.

Saying that Members in this community deserve to get scammed is exactly why you should not be DT1. Despite your “good” intentions.

 
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