Would like to have certain names banned from forum.

[philipma1957]

If you look at BraiinsStoleMyBlock he is using the name to attack a thread.

I would like to show google search results

















So the member name serves as an attack vector on in this case braiins


but I really do not think any member name that is used to attack a thread  should be allowed.

[philipma1957]

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his profile

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3730874



if you look here you will see 83 posts were deleted


https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3730874


As I said anyone can copy his style and accuse a member and endlessly spam the thread.


Worse yet they can simply post a lot and the name itself acts like an attack against in this case

braiins but in any case one  can write names attacking legit members.

the guy is obviously attacking just braiins but how about 50 A.I. bots doing this over and over.

I have reported him many times but I would prefer a ban even if it is for 1 month or 2 months.

As we could end up with many people doing this.

[JeromeTash]

I don't know what the threshold is for one to get banned (temporarily or permanently) for spamming and having quite a number of posts deleted, but from the looks of things, he seems very close to getting banned. Perhaps negative feedback and trust flags can work for now until his ban (trust flags can also help warn guest users regarding the creator of the thread)

I don't think a temporary ban might help since his motive in the forum is only one. Maybe just slow him down a bit.

[letteredhub]

I think it makes sense for a ban on a username that's observed to be created to be an attacking user on another. I would have suggested a temporary ban too as JeromeTash mentioned but a temporary ban as a warning wouldn't stop a user from continuing to carry on with the purpose of creating such an account after it's ban is lifted, so perma-ban would significantly contribute to deter future behaviours.

Overlooking this may further affect the quality of the forum when many users lean towards this.

[philipma1957]

my fear is this catches on and A.I. driven bots do it to a lot of threads.

for all I know this is a test case of how to attack bitcointalk with A.I. bots and clever member names.

My guess is as good as any other but it seems to be a good way to hurt a thread and if done often enough a good way to hurt the website

itself.

[joker_josue]

Looking at this analysis, it really could be used to mislead and deceive forum visitors.

We cannot forget that the forum is well indexed by Google. An attacker could take advantage of this to try and gain an advantage over the more careless.

I think the problem isn't so much for regular forum users, who more or less understand what's going on. The worst part is for visitors who arrive here via search engines.

[Vod]

my fear is this catches on and A.I. driven bots do it to a lot of threads.

Oh, it will catch on, and this old style of reporting and banning is not going to be useful for much longer.   Like it or not, Theymos may have to add some sort of limitation on newbies or use an AI spam detector.   Imagine 5 new accounts being created per second from around the world and the traffic all looks legitimate.  :/

[LoyceV]

I would like to show google search results
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but I really do not think any member name that is used to attack a thread  should be allowed.

I'd say this should be allowed: usernames like "Casino/Mixer/Exchange<Name>ScammedMe" can be a legit way to point out scams. But I've also seen many other names used for trolling. Examples: LoyceIsMyMother, LoyceVbanappeal and LoyceAprilFools (I think most of those got banned).

if you look here you will see 83 posts were deleted
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the guy is obviously attacking just braiins but how about 50 A.I. bots doing this over and over.

This should be the reason to ban him.

[Odohu]

Some forum names are controversial and harmful to the forum, so I agree with you that such names should be banned at first sight. I remember some threads made by SuperBitman showing scammers opening forum accounts that mimics notable forum members, most of whom are campaign managers. If such users are allowed to operate freely, imagine the damage they can unleash on the forum using alias.

[GeorgeJohn]

Looking at this analysis, it really could be used to mislead and deceive forum visitors.

We cannot forget that the forum is well indexed by Google. An attacker could take advantage of this to try and gain an advantage over the more careless.

I think the problem isn't so much for regular forum users, who more or less understand what's going on. The worst part is for visitors who arrive here via search engines.

You're right...but the thing is that the user has tagged already and such tags vindicates that is non-trusted or ineffective ally of the forum..

if visitors seems the tags given by the forum users, they will know that, the user is a problematic person...except it's the attackers that will took the advantages and come against forum...

I think since is posting trashed in the forum, mods should continue to make the user to have a zero posts by deleting his post often..because often deletion of post will lead the user to be ban...

[JollyGood]

The most appropriate solution would be for those people to create the accounts and then the community can report any names when they are noticed. This allows the account creator to go through a time-consuming process to create the account in order to start posting, only to discover the account is banned. For them, it would be a waste of time and maybe they will not do it again.

Reporting an account does mean it will be banned. If the moderators do not deem it worthy of a ban, they will be free to post. If the newly created account is named after existing forum members and intended to troll or imitate, then that would probably lead to an immediate ban. Or if it were created to contain the names of mixers or any illegal (or nefarious) activity, that too would probably lead to a ban. Anything else is probably going to be subjective.

[joker_josue]

if visitors seems the tags given by the forum users, they will know that, the user is a problematic person...except it's the attackers that will took the advantages and come against forum...

But this is necessary for the person to know how the forum works.
The forum is expected to receive thousands of visitors who do not know these details.

[AVE5]

my fear is this catches on and A.I. driven bots do it to a lot of threads.

Oh, it will catch on, and this old style of reporting and banning is not going to be useful for much longer.   Like it or not, Theymos may have to add some sort of limitation on newbies or use an AI spam detector.   Imagine 5 new accounts being created per second from around the world and the traffic all looks legitimate.  :/

Hmm, I gasped because if this new infrastructure is layed out it'll not only reduce or eliminate users burdens of reporting and discussing here so too necessary reports Theymos should be looking into but because he's got too many on his desk to attend to, that's how we'll be too slow to fixing the anomaly that're potential threats to the forum. Would also reduce workload for Theymos.
A regulating bot could do this and save everyone stress while admin at his end with the help of the Bot intersecting and restricting newbies creating accounts with anyone of those forbidden usernames.
This advancement will also not give chances to eliminate such spammers entirely.

[philipma1957]

if visitors seems the tags given by the forum users, they will know that, the user is a problematic person...except it's the attackers that will took the advantages and come against forum...

But this is necessary for the person to know how the forum works.
The forum is expected to receive thousands of visitors who do not know these details.

Yeah it can lead to bad Google searches

Search for " bitcoin scammed me "

And a member with  the name "bitcoin scammed me" may show.

Scan for "did trump make bitcoin a crime" and a member with the name " did trump make bitcoin a crime"

[joker_josue]

Yeah it can lead to bad Google searches

Search for " bitcoin scammed me "

And a member with  the name "bitcoin scammed me" may show.

Scan for "did trump make bitcoin a crime" and a member with the name " did trump make bitcoin a crime"

However, it's also unrealistic to block each and every type of name, which could be potentially dangerous.

But at least there can be some level of scrutiny of names linked to companies/services. Never in a way that limits the entry of representatives of new services.

I would say that it had to be more of a community-level approach, rather than one directly implemented through the forum's systems.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Imagine 5 new accounts being created per second from around the world and the traffic all looks legitimate.  :/

Yep, it'd be armageddon.  And back in 2017 prior to the merit system and in the midst of that awful ICO boom I didn't think things could get any worse around here, and I was only considering post quality and the abuse of campaigns/bounties with alt accounts.  I'm certainly no AI expert, but it would seem to me that someone savvy enough with the technology and the will to turn bitcointalk to shit would have a field day doing so.

Hopefully Theymos is doing some good ol' cerebrating about this behind the curtain or wherever he is.  When he comes up with a solution to a problem, it's more often than not a good one.

[LoyceV]

Imagine 5 new accounts being created per second from around the world and the traffic all looks legitimate.  :/

Yep, it'd be armageddon.

A very simple (but also very undesirable) solution would be to charge each new account a small fee. Spam works because it's so cheap to do. But it will for sure also stop legitimate real new users from joining.

[philipma1957]

This is something we will need to watch for.  As all kinds of cyberattacks do happen.

As I type Stryker is having a huge cyberattack.


https://www.gurufocus.com/news/8702660/stryker-syk-faces-cyberattack-amid-rising-hacking-threats


Since BTC can help a person hold wealth and unlike gold or silver it is easy to move.

I could see more attacks coming at Bitcointalk

due to the multiple wars in the world as I type.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Yeah it can lead to bad Google searches

Search for " bitcoin scammed me "

And a member with  the name "bitcoin scammed me" may show.

Scan for "did trump make bitcoin a crime" and a member with the name " did trump make bitcoin a crime"

I think I totally disagree with what you just said above in regards to names such as "Bitcoin scammed me" to cause a bad search to the bitcointalk forum, because I literally just typed the exact phrase "Bitcoin scammed me" and Google search didn't display anything that has to do with this forum, but rather what Google provided were  various topics and videos where people were expressed how they got scammed with Bitcoin, with no reference to the Bitcointalk forum. Because without the use of the phrase "Bitcointalk" in addition to "Bitcoin scammed me", Google will only provide a generic search results about "Bitcoin & Scammed". However, such names should be discouraged when it comes to account opening on this forum, as it portrays a negative image about Bitcoin.

[philipma1957]

Yeah it can lead to bad Google searches

Search for " bitcoin scammed me "

And a member with  the name "bitcoin scammed me" may show.

Scan for "did trump make bitcoin a crime" and a member with the name " did trump make bitcoin a crime"

I think I totally disagree with what you just said above in regards to names such as "Bitcoin scammed me" to cause a bad search to the bitcointalk forum, because I literally just typed the exact phrase "Bitcoin scammed me" and Google search didn't display anything that has to do with this forum, but rather what Google provided were  various topics and videos where people were expressed how they got scammed with Bitcoin, with no reference to the Bitcointalk forum. Because without the use of the phrase "Bitcointalk" in addition to "Bitcoin scammed me", Google will only provide a generic search results about "Bitcoin & Scammed". However, such names should be discouraged when it comes to account opening on this forum, as it portrays a negative image about Bitcoin.

Because no one used those names as members.

It is the potential mis use in the future if someone was using those names


Google

 philipma1957


Thousands of search results most link to bitcointalk.

Cause i post like mad.

So if every Google search for philipma1957 was instead philipma1957bitcointalkisascam

There would be a ton of Google searches showing false attacking info.

I was not clear enough in the earlier post.

For now I discovered 1 name clearly causing this problem  of an unproven attack on braiins

BRAIINSSTOLEMYBLOCK

My fear is it is a test case against  bitcointalk . And more names could be usedl