Sports betting brokers instead of VPN or fake KYC?

[Questat]

I saw a thread here about sports betting brokers and it reminded me of this problem....

some players can’t access certain sportsbooks because of location restrictions and because of that, others try using VPNs, and some even go as far as using fake KYC just to get their account verified and be able to bet. So i'm thinking, why not just use a sports betting broker instead because from what I understand the process is simple, just create one account with the broker and they place bets for you across multiple sportsbooks they support which i read you can get the best odds. of course they make money as well, so there’s usually a small commission, but at least betting becomes possible without trying to bypass restrictions yourself.

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

[Mia Chloe]

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Every casino today tries as much as they can to expand their sports book audience and it majors around licences most times except for countries where gambling is illegal. Based off this most people prefer to just change to a more flexible site that allows that and most crypto casinos these days barely have restrictions.

I haven't really studied how these brokers work but I believe it's more stress free to have a casino supported in your jurisdiction instead.

[dimonstration]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

It’s been a long time since I saw a trusted broker on sportsbook but assuming that the broker has long standing reputation is good then I guess this is fine work around since it’s just considered as an accumulated bet.

The only risk is when the broker run the customers money. My country is allowed to gamble in most casino so I don’t have this problem.

Can you provide an example broker that you knew?

[stadus]

I haven't really studied how these brokers work but I believe it's more stress free to have a casino supported in your jurisdiction instead.

Yeah of course, and that’s probably the reason why they exist. But the thing is your chances of winning also get smaller because the sportsbook already has its own juice, usually around 10%. Then when you use a broker there’s another cut, sometimes around 1% of your winnings or even on the bet itself.

It might still help though if you can really find better odds through them. For example if you can get something like 1.96 while most sportsbooks normally offer around 1.90, that difference can matter in the long run.

Personally I haven’t tried using a broker yet since gambling isn’t banned in my location. But knowing that option exists makes it a possible second choice if access ever becomes restricted.

[Hispo]

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What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

It is probably about bettors from restricted countries not wanting to deal with the commissions imposed by those brokers. In the eyes of the majority of bettors from restricted countries using a free VPN and try to fool a bookie is a better and money saving option when it is compared to opting for the services of brokers.

I have personally never used those services, because in my country one can easily access to gambling services and also betting markets. But If I had to choose between risking my money by bypassing the Terms of Service of the bookie or using a broker, then I would definitely go for the broker.

Just my two sats.

[rbynxx]

I saw a thread here about sports betting brokers and it reminded me of this problem....

some players can’t access certain sportsbooks because of location restrictions and because of that, others try using VPNs, and some even go as far as using fake KYC just to get their account verified and be able to bet. So i'm thinking, why not just use a sports betting broker instead because from what I understand the process is simple, just create one account with the broker and they place bets for you across multiple sportsbooks they support which i read you can get the best odds. of course they make money as well, so there’s usually a small commission, but at least betting becomes possible without trying to bypass restrictions yourself.

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

The thing is, how legit is the broker? I saw it on some other sites here in my local zone that the brokers are the one betting on behalf of their customers as well as processing their payments (deposit/withdrawals) but I'm doubtful on their behalf tbh. I think it's just good in the short term but in the long run it will definitely have some problems that may exist so I think eliminating the middle man is a must unless you trust the site and the site verified that broker 100% and a known individual.

[acroman08]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

If you are willing to add more risk when you are gambling, then yeah, it is a good workaround especially if you or your country uis restricted to the sportsbooks that you want to bet on. Also, for me, it's totally useless and too risky, but for people who might want to get access to more odds market or matches that is isn't available in their region then this could be their answer to that.

[alegotardo]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

It is definitely another risk, because Imagine that you win a good amount in prizes, do you realy believe that this broker will pay you and keep only the percentage that is due to him?
I think that number of casinos we have today, and some of them with more lenient requirements, it is possible to place many bets without having to break rules or use KYC or even recovery to intermediaries.

I prefer not bet on a particular event or championship than place a bet and be afraid that my money might get stuck afterward. I believe many bettors here dream of a big prize, right? Now, you imagine if finally winner an big prize and not being able to withdraw it because you did something wrong or trusted in the wrong people, that must be painful.

[Questat]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

If you are willing to add more risk when you are gambling, then yeah, it is a good workaround especially if you or your country uis restricted to the sportsbooks that you want to bet on. Also, for me, it's totally useless and too risky, but for people who might want to get access to more odds market or matches that is isn't available in their region then this could be their answer to that.

Isn’t it actually more risky to gamble in a casino where you already know players from your country are not allowed because of restrictions?

I think the risk you’re talking about is more about the winning percentage, but there’s another kind of risk there. When you play on a platform where you’re not restricted, you don’t have to worry about your account getting frozen for violating the rules.

That removes a big concern, because then the only thing you really have to focus on is how to beat the odds.

[Charles-Tim]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

If the gambler follow a reputable sport betting broker, there is nothing bad about it, but I guess many people will go for scam sport betting brokers also which need to be avoided..

Gambling is legal in my country, I have not tried sport betting brokers before. So this is just a recommendation from what I have read about sport betting brokers before and not my actual experience.

[acroman08]

Isn’t it actually more risky to gamble in a casino where you already know players from your country are not allowed because of restrictions?

I think the risk you’re talking about is more about the winning percentage, but there’s another kind of risk there. When you play on a platform where you’re not restricted, you don’t have to worry about your account getting frozen for violating the rules.

That removes a big concern, because then the only thing you really have to focus on is how to beat the odds.

The risk I am talking about when it comes to a sportsbook broker is the broker itself stealing your money. I've seen several people post their sportsbook broker service here in the forum, where they look for high rollers to use their service, and I've always found them suspicious. That's why I said, "If you are willing to add more risk when you are gambling, then yeah, it is a good workaround" on my previous post.

[OgNasty]

I would think that using a sports betting broker is no different than placing the bets yourself. The end result is the same so while I’m not sure where it is legally speaking, it doesn’t sound legitimate to me. I would be very careful exploring this as a solution to not wanting to provide KYC.

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in my opinion both options still have risks just in different ways. Using a VPN or fake KYC to access a restricted sportsbook is definitely risky because if the platform detects it they can freeze account or even confiscate winnings so in that sense it’s stressful to bet while worrying that account might get flagged anytime but w/ a betting broker the risk shifts more to trust basically relying on a 3rd party to place bets & handle funds. If the broker is reputable & well known it might work fine but if not could run into problems like delays in payouts or lack of transparency.

for me the safest approach is still using sportsbooks that are legally available in country. It may limit the no. of markets or odds can access but at least avoid account issues & don’t have to depend on another middleman.

[Darker45]

This isn't based on experience, but I think using a VPN, having your account pass KYC through somebody else, or even buying an account seem less of a hassle than going through a broker and pay a fee every time you place a bet. The former gives you a one-time inconvenience, although the risk of being caught will always be there. However, I'm not sure of the legality of using brokers to go around jurisdiction restrictions. I think that's also illegal and therefore as risky.

[GreatArkansas]

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What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

For me, this is fine as long as the odds are fair and your funds are safe, which is the most common reason and important for every online gambler.
There are a lot of sports betting brokers that are popular, but for some jurisdictions, they are not legal or allowed, but still, as you said, some bypass it with vpn/fake KYC.
The main issue is that it's difficult to find a legit and trusted alternative to these, which is why some have no choice but to bypass them.

[coinrifft]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

I don't see any wrong with using a betting broker if you are in restricted country and can't bet on certain platforms. I don't know if you can call it a risk, but it's obvious that when you uses their services, then you have to pay premium fees with it. I'm not sure what is the set-up though, it could be per bet or payment for a month or whatever payment scheme they have. The question is that are willing to do that? So it's like you are not getting 100% of your winnings because you have to give them money. Most gamblers might not like that idea. So personally, I won't go that length to used sports betting brokers as I just go and make them rich.

[bitbollo]

I wouldn't see a practical problem. Most of gamblers are not trashing an amount that requires an external service.

You will never pay a service that is already cheap or you can just bypass.
Also brokerage activity must be already excluded by most gambling sites due KYC and AML rules... and no one would risk to get blacklisted by helping some strangers on internet for a crazy bet.

[Dave1]

I'm not sure about VPN or KYC though.

But usually sports brokers are being used by whales or big bettors. It's because casinos allow this broker's with no limit or at least high betting limits. So it's not for average joe bettors like the majority of us here, unfortunately.

And definitely, this brokers will have to check who their clients is before proceeding because they wanted to make sure that everything is right including KYC. So it's not that cheap to get into sports brokers.

[Oasisman]

What do you guys think about it? Is using a betting broker actually a good workaround, or does it just create another risk for gamblers?

It's a good workaround if you don't want to deal with any future problems if the casino found out you're using VPN, as they might freeze your account. But, it could also pose another layer of risks when you're using random broker trying to cut some commissions. Reputable broker normally have higher comission rate or slightly higher than those are not.
People who uses VPN or any other 3rd party program or fake KYC, etc.. to access restricted casinos, may don't want to deal with commissions or doesn't fully trust brokers. Though it poses more risks once caught, but we all have our own preferences and risks appetite.

[Ruttoshi]

Long story short...are you gambling to make profits that you need a broker. Profits isn't guaranteed which means that you will be in a double loss using a broker.

Why not just gamble in a casino that didn't restrict your region and save yourself from all these worries and unnecessary process just to gamble. Enjoy gambling with rest of mind and stick to casinos ToS because we have more than enough casinos out there to use.