You are absolutely correct about betby's flagging. But as long as the flagging stays at limiting winners and not confiscating fairly won funds, that's what i meant by saying it's fair. Every single sportsbook will limit winners. It's not a betby exclusive "feature".
Even if betby flags a player, at the end of the day, when you press withdrawal button, it's the casino's decision wether they pay or not. Having played at every casino you listed, except for betfury, i haven't experienced anything like with betpanda. Maybe i was lucky. Limited in all of them? Yes. Paid in all of them? Yes. Especially 500 where i played for the longest time.
Betpanda is the #1 offender, we agree on that. But Betby is guilty too for aggressive flagging.
If I lost lot of money I legitimately won, I would approach Betby too, accusing Betpanda and them for enabling it,
to put pressure on Betpanda from the other end. If Betpanda is using their product to seize winnings and sometimes deposits from players of different countries, shouldn't that business relationship be a liability for Betby?
https://betby.com/en/ai-labs/Not the real time activity alerts to restrict players, the profiling and suspicious activity detection:
99% increase in suspicious activity detection
Betby has a practice of voiding bets after matches have concluded and results are known saying "wrong odds". This is not industry practice. Place some additional blame on them.
We agree on pretty much everything. Yes betpanda is the #1 offender, and yes betby has an agressive flagging. But what is the immediate consequence of a player being flagged? He gets limited. If i get limited, but i am getting my winnings paid, i'm not opening a scam accusation thread. No one does. If you take a look at any case in this forum(or even outsite) against betpanda sportsbook related, 100% of the time, happen right after an withdrawal request. It never happens when the player is flagged.
I did lose money i legitimately won, and i did try to contact betby, on 3 different emails back in july of last year. 0 response.
As for voiding bets after matches conclusion, i can't speak much about that because it has never happened to me.
Since we are on this topic, here is the post of mister betpanda's representative himself, on my accusation thread against them, where he states, that since i was limited in other betby casinos(information given by me otherwise he would have no clue), they had the right to confiscate my winnings. Ignoring the fact i got paid in all of those.
Hello,
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
I love the part where he says "and now confirmed". Initially they had nothing, but since i made the "big revelation" i have been limited at other casinos using betby, it is now "confirmed". lol
