Divorced wife steal ex-husband bitcoin wallet password using CCTV

[m2017]

Like why are you married when you can’t trust your wife with your money ,

Divorce statistics show that you can't trust your wife with your money. Especially when she claims half of your property after the divorce.

The story of a wife stealing her husband's money, discussed in this thread, also demonstrates that wives can't be trusted. Do you really think the hero (the victim) in this story got married thinking he couldn't trust his wife? Of course not. He did, but ultimately, she deceived and robbed him.

this has be the mentality of so many men , they have so much insecurity and uncertainty,

Of course, because legally they find themselves at an extreme disadvantage when entering into marriage. Any deal in which one party receives more privileges is unbalanced and disadvantageous to the other.

them I ask myself why do you chose to be married,

At all times, marriage was concluded for the purpose of running a joint business (household) and producing the joint "products" of that business (offspring). Well, it was also easier to survive that way.

the truth is that many are using what is happening around them to justify life ,

Married people criticize the lives of single people, and single people criticize the lives of married people.

But if we return to the unpleasant story discussed in this thread, even someone you've trusted for years could be the one to steal from you first. I can't recall a single case in the media where a husband stole from his wife or deceived (or otherwise) his wife's money, but there are countless examples of wives encroaching on their husbands' property. This raises some questions about why men are in no hurry to marry.

[IjawMan]

Like why are you married when you can’t trust your wife with your money ,

Divorce statistics show that you can't trust your wife with your money. Especially when she claims half of your property after the divorce.

The story of a wife stealing her husband's money, discussed in this thread, also demonstrates that wives can't be trusted. Do you really think the hero (the victim) in this story got married thinking he couldn't trust his wife? Of course not. He did, but ultimately, she deceived and robbed him.

The discussions about trust with these real life scenarios that happens occasionally  with this in this thread makes the issue of having Bitcoin and who to trust your seed phrase and password with to avert a total loss of your Bitcoin in a situation of sudden death, that let there be someone as a family member that is with knowledge of your coins to take custody of it and to utilize, than having it gone in loss.  Is a big question to ask on who can be trusted with money when who you took to be family turned to be an enemy that will want to rob you.

[knowngunman]

I don't blame the man but his ex-wife who stole his password in their house. He trusted his wife but she betrayed him since she didn't not love him and have plans to steal from him which was why she went this far. I think that our homes should be the safest place to hide our seed phrase and valueable documents regardless whether, CCTV is on or not.

Those that are not yet married should be careful with the kind of woman you bring into your life as your wife because she might be a thieve unknowingly to you.

The thread title says "divorced" and I hope you know how likely it changes things. In most cases, when husband and wife is divorced they can go extra length to bring each other down through any means possible. So it doesn't matter whether you bring in the right woman or not. Once the word divorce is pronounced, you both are likely to become enemy. Although, it's a different thing when the divorce happens through a mutual understanding.

The content of this story is not detailed enough but writing/storing a recovery phrase or anything related to your wallet security in any environment under CCTV surveillance is very risky. Modern CCTV camera work with internet and this means there's a possibility of being hijack by hackers to watch your activities. I'm not disputing any fact here but I'm stating that it might not be around you responsible for your lose some time.

[SuperBitMan]

I really don’t know what to say because I’m just surprised that his wife will go that far to steal his password and then withdraw his bitcoin, the only thing I have learnt from this story is to be careful around people even if the person is your wife or husband when it comes to your password, but I still want to ask want is the essence of getting married if you can’t trust your partner with your informations, is just a pity that the world has turn to this now, people are now finding it difficult to trust their partners these days even to trust their own self is a problem talk more of trusting partners, it’s a problem in today’s world.

[CryptoVoyager24]

People treat hardware wallets like magic amulets.
A trezor is completely useless if your physical environment is a compromised endpoint. Entering a 6 digit pin directly in the fov of a networked camera means your opsec is absolute garbage. Treat your living room like a public wifi network.

[L E G E N D A R Y]

The discussions about trust with these real life scenarios that happens occasionally  with this in this thread makes the issue of having Bitcoin and who to trust your seed phrase and password with to avert a total loss of your Bitcoin in a situation of sudden death, that let there be someone as a family member that is with knowledge of your coins to take custody of it and to utilize, than having it gone in loss.  Is a big question to ask on who can be trusted with money when who you took to be family turned to be an enemy that will want to rob you.

You are right, with the way things are going, its no longer safe or people find it difficult to trust people, even couples find it hard to trust themselves and even their loved ones. But, it depends on people, there are people you will see right from time, that they don't need to be trusted, to avoid cases like this, one need to test them and try some new stuffs with them, to see if they are trustworthy and trying it so many times with them and nothing change, that means they should be trusted.

[tech30338]

The discussions about trust with these real life scenarios that happens occasionally  with this in this thread makes the issue of having Bitcoin and who to trust your seed phrase and password with to avert a total loss of your Bitcoin in a situation of sudden death, that let there be someone as a family member that is with knowledge of your coins to take custody of it and to utilize, than having it gone in loss.  Is a big question to ask on who can be trusted with money when who you took to be family turned to be an enemy that will want to rob you.

You are right, with the way things are going, its no longer safe or people find it difficult to trust people, even couples find it hard to trust themselves and even their loved ones. But, it depends on people, there are people you will see right from time, that they don't need to be trusted, to avoid cases like this, one need to test them and try some new stuffs with them, to see if they are trustworthy and trying it so many times with them and nothing change, that means they should be trusted.

People nowadays can break any type of relationship with money, trust is not a thing anymore, because in this world money can make things move, even the closes person to you will break your heart because of money, there are only few people in the world that can chose you no matter what the situation is, people who you help before and now they do more or earn more to you will not be the same person, they are willing to break bond with you since you are no longer beneficial to them, same with crypto if they see an opportunity to steal it and if its worth a million they wont even hesitate.

[TokenTikas]

Honestly, I don’t even know what to say because just seeing the subject of the post already spoiled my mood. It feels like people are now competing on how to cheat one another in this world. In a case where a divorced wife is already completely separated, she still went ahead to use CCTV to steal her ex-husband’s wallet password just to take his money and that is really shocking. It makes you wonder how greedy someone can be to do such a thing. That's why, no matter how close someone is to you, it is very important to handle your personal security matters with serious care.

[Hazink]

People treat hardware wallets like magic amulets.
A trezor is completely useless if your physical environment is a compromised endpoint. Entering a 6 digit pin directly in the fov of a networked camera means your opsec is absolute garbage. Treat your living room like a public wifi network.

You just can't be too careful, especially when you are in your own private space living only with your wife and children, even inside the living room. Something like this will happen as long as your spouse has a plan for that. You you might not even be able to observe there have been a hidden camera planted inside the room to record you while you access your hardware wallet, the thing is we should not just have a criminal among us as family member especially when we least suspect them of anything.

[CryptoVoyager24]

People treat hardware wallets like magic amulets.
A trezor is completely useless if your physical environment is a compromised endpoint. Entering a 6 digit pin directly in the fov of a networked camera means your opsec is absolute garbage. Treat your living room like a public wifi network.

You just can't be too careful, especially when you are in your own private space living only with your wife and children, even inside the living room. Something like this will happen as long as your spouse has a plan for that. You you might not even be able to observe there have been a hidden camera planted inside the room to record you while you access your hardware wallet, the thing is we should not just have a criminal among us as family member especially when we least suspect them of anything.

Trust is a single point of failure. It literally doesnt matter if the threat actor is a foreign hacker or your spouse. Threat modeling doesnt care about your marriage certificate. If your holding life-changing money on a single sig wallet in a shared house, your asking to get drained. Human trust is not valid opsec.

[7juju]

Those that are not yet married should be careful with the kind of woman you bring into your life as your wife because she might be a thieve unknowingly to you.

No matter how a man trust his wife, he shouldn’t let her have access to his wallet phrase. A woman can be your best friend today and tomorrow she turn to your worse enemy. Where money is involved, be careful of women. Most women are just with men because the men are providing for their needs. Your key should be yours alone to know its whereabouts. Keep it private, write it down store it somewhere and let no soul know about it.

[EL MOHA]

No matter how a man trust his wife, he shouldn’t let her have access to his wallet phrase. A woman can be your best friend today and tomorrow she turn to your worse enemy. Where money is involved, be careful of women. Most women are just with men because the men are providing for their needs. Your key should be yours alone to know its whereabouts. Keep it private, write it down store it somewhere and let no soul know about it.

If we talk about this things I think we usually simplify the process as been easy but have actually looked the future risk involve in actually having a wallet which it’s back up is typical just belonging to owner only? I think we need to actually look at the dangers involved with that. This simply means without the owner then the wallet cannot be accessed right, while this looks like the most protective way of storing or backing up one’s wallet, have we considered the danger round it,

For example if the owner actually dies or falls sick and loses memory and this bitcoins are actually an investment to help Carter for his kids or let’s say inheritance then without anyone knowing of the existence of this investment this means that the funds are actually lost for forever without him. Isn’t this much more a cruel way of losing the investment meant for your offspring. So no matter how we put it the sad reality is even if a trust worthy person is scarce you definitely have to one time trust someone with that information of the wallet.

[Charcol]

Those that are not yet married should be careful with the kind of woman you bring into your life as your wife because she might be a thieve unknowingly to you.

No matter how a man trust his wife, he shouldn’t let her have access to his wallet phrase. A woman can be your best friend today and tomorrow she turn to your worse enemy. Where money is involved, be careful of women. Most women are just with men because the men are providing for their needs. Your key should be yours alone to know its whereabouts. Keep it private, write it down store it somewhere and let no soul know about it.

I like your words at least. There have been a few such incidents. When a woman, greedy for property, marries a man for a few months. Then the woman tries to gain the man's trust. And finally, she gives him all the property in her name. And when the work is done, she divorces him. And if it is an asset like Bitcoin, then we should be more careful. Because we may think that our seed phrase, private key or wallet password is safe, but there are some fraudsters who act friendly with us and keep an eye on us. Then they can do the biggest damage.

[CryptoVoyager24]

@EL MOHA handing a single person your seed phrase in case u drop dead is just a massive single point of failure. U dont need to rely on trust for inheritance.
Just build a standard 2-of-3 multisig. Spouse gets one key, lawyer gets another, u hold the third. nobody can drain it alone. If u dont want to deal with people at all, just use a basic bip65 timelock that unlocks a secondary wallet after 5 years of zero activity. The bus factor is a technical issue, so fix it with math instead of feelings.

[Berry2d]

Since the emergence of this particular unfortunate occurrence I have seen alot people providing justifying reasons while partners trust should not get to his or her business and how not to expose some secrets but if i may ask what is marriage without trust.
Before we continue let us look at some major attributes of love, the love i know is made up some major attributes which : trust,  sacrifice,  patience,  hope, selfless care to mention but are few. Claiming you love your partner and you are willing to spend the rest of your life with him or her you must be ready to live an ever open life with her and she also must be ever transparent to you, so I see no reason hiding your seed phase from  the one you claim you love.
I no what she did was condemnable but never enough reasons to judge all women with same mistakes as all can never be the same.

[Kavelj22]

Just build a standard 2-of-3 multisig. Spouse gets one key, lawyer gets another, u hold the third. nobody can drain it alone. If u dont want to deal with people at all, just use a basic bip65 timelock that unlocks a secondary wallet after 5 years of zero activity. The bus factor is a technical issue, so fix it with math instead of feelings.

But this is not a reliable solution for all cases. I won't give two keys of multi sig wallet, one to my lawyer and another to my wife without having copies of both of them. Thinking about inheritance doesn't mean I have to freeze my bitcoin for the rest of my life. A time lock wallet is also a solution for those many bitcoins.

The problem becomes more sophisticated with savings in altcoins. Other blockchains don't have such features. I am not saying you are telling wrong but the case here gives a real problematic. I am afraid to say that the less riskier solution is to rely on a trusted third part, the same with banking system with fiat money.

[CryptoVoyager24]

Just build a standard 2-of-3 multisig. Spouse gets one key, lawyer gets another, u hold the third. nobody can drain it alone. If u dont want to deal with people at all, just use a basic bip65 timelock that unlocks a secondary wallet after 5 years of zero activity. The bus factor is a technical issue, so fix it with math instead of feelings.

But this is not a reliable solution for all cases. I won't give two keys of multi sig wallet, one to my lawyer and another to my wife without having copies of both of them. Thinking about inheritance doesn't mean I have to freeze my bitcoin for the rest of my life. A time lock wallet is also a solution for those many bitcoins.

The problem becomes more sophisticated with savings in altcoins. Other blockchains don't have such features. I am not saying you are telling wrong but the case here gives a real problematic. I am afraid to say that the less riskier solution is to rely on a trusted third part, the same with banking system with fiat money.

U fundamentally misunderstand the protocol. Nobody is telling u to freeze your bags forever. just look into how relative timelocks (OP_CSV) actually function.

U can have your regular spending key fully active 24/7, completely unfrozen. but a backup recovery path only activates after a set amount of blocks without activity. Advocating for legal third parties like banks on a BTC forum just because u don't want to learn how raw transactions work is wild. Use the math.