The contrast is astonishing! Read the room, coretards.

[PepeLapiu]

Read the replies to core 30 announcement pinned on thos forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5571154.0

In spite of the controversy, and in spite of 25% of the nodes having switched away from core to either Knots or BIP110, you will not find a single negative comment in the thread linked above.

The reason for this is that all negative comments get deleted almost immediately. Core doesn't want you to know how much they are really hated right now, and how much of an L they ate taking.

In contrast, if you look at any video on YT where a core apologist opens his mouth, he gets absolutely cooked in the comments.

Same on X. Just look at Core's latest tweet where they announce spamware core 31:
https://x.com/bitcoincoreorg/status/2033939020296884585

Almost 20,000 views and only 133 likes. That is EXTREMELY LOW. Most tweets gets at least 50-60% likes. But core barely gets 0.66% likes. And they get absolutely destroyed in the comments. Over 97% negative comments.

And I'm told the same thing is happening on Discord and Reddit.

It's only in this very very small isolated forum bubble that core gets absolutely no negative feedback.

Wanna know why? Because only here and on the Google list can coretards control the narrative and silence the opposition.

Read the room, core. At least try to save a bit of pride and return the op_return filter. And maybe try to stopnmaking excuses for spam.

[nutildah]

In the interest of fairness let's review the deleted posts from the archive:

1. Yours where you start by proclaiming to be a Nostradamus:

"I don't need to wait, I can already see the results."

And then you plug your YouTube channel (LOL). That's probably why it was deleted. If you could have left a less combative post without the YouTube reference, that probably would have been OK.

2. "the build from source when smoothly" - basically repeating what was said in the comment above it

3. "Bitcoin Core 30.2 has been released, focusing on stability, minor bug fixes, and smoother node performance." - a useless line of AI drivel

4. "Solid maintenance release overall — nothing flashy, but the wallet migration fixes and the Ctrl-C shutdown hang patch are the kind of boring improvements node operators actually care about. Updating the minimum Boost version and tightening exported symbols also points to ongoing hardening and build hygiene, which is always good to see. For most users it’s a low-risk upgrade, but anyone running legacy wallets or custom builds should still read the notes and test before rolling it out." - pure AI copy/paste, nothing useful that hasn't been said

5. "I HAVE CREATED A SERVER BITCOIND AND MY QT WORK FINE OVER TOR THIS IS REAL VIRTUAL BITCOIN (and a YouTube link) - another self-promotion

6. "**CryptoAscend:** ¡Gana hasta 15% APY en tus USDC con Binance Earn! (suspicious link removed) - ok pretty obvious why it was deleted

7. "Greate!  Create Your Own PokeChill
Greate!  Create Your Own Pixel Flow Level
Greate!  Create Your Own PokePlunder
(it goes on longer)" - do you have a problem with this being deleted?

8. "Le Retour à la Genèse

Quote
Le monde a changé depuis le bloc genesis... (colle ici le texte que nous avons rédigé)


----- BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE -----
I am Satoshi Nakamoto. Today is February 2, 2026. This is for validation.
(continues)" - uhh... not the place for faketoshi reveals

9. "hmm interesting" - zero value post

10. "🚀 Unlock Your Digital Fortune with BITCOINKEY! 🚀
Ever wondered if there's a hidden treasure in the vast Bitcoin network? Our advanced BITCOINKEY bot helps you scan for dormant or lost P2PKH wallets, bringing the potential for forgotten digital wealth right to your fingertips.
✨ Why BITCOINKEY?" - I dunno, why Bitcoinkey, I think you get why it was deleted

11. "Given the way things are right now, I’ll probably take a little break until the end of the month. Switched to (shittycasino) and managed to get a small profit with these Bitcoin swings, it’s just impossible otherwise. Grin" - more spam

So most of the posts deleted were spam, and then your post, which was somewhat spammy and otherwise unconstructive. There is no conspiracy here.

[PepeLapiu]

Strange, isn't it? How every single negative comment is deemed offensive or low value?

[Bastketsrus]

In the interest of fairness let's review the deleted posts from the archive:

1. Yours where you start by proclaiming to be a Nostradamus:

"I don't need to wait, I can already see the results."

And then you plug your YouTube channel (LOL). That's probably why it was deleted. If you could have left a less combative post without the YouTube reference, that probably would have been OK.

2. "the build from source when smoothly" - basically repeating what was said in the comment above it

3. "Bitcoin Core 30.2 has been released, focusing on stability, minor bug fixes, and smoother node performance." - a useless line of AI drivel

4. "Solid maintenance release overall — nothing flashy, but the wallet migration fixes and the Ctrl-C shutdown hang patch are the kind of boring improvements node operators actually care about. Updating the minimum Boost version and tightening exported symbols also points to ongoing hardening and build hygiene, which is always good to see. For most users it’s a low-risk upgrade, but anyone running legacy wallets or custom builds should still read the notes and test before rolling it out." - pure AI copy/paste, nothing useful that hasn't been said

5. "I HAVE CREATED A SERVER BITCOIND AND MY QT WORK FINE OVER TOR THIS IS REAL VIRTUAL BITCOIN (and a YouTube link) - another self-promotion

6. "**CryptoAscend:** ¡Gana hasta 15% APY en tus USDC con Binance Earn! (suspicious link removed) - ok pretty obvious why it was deleted

7. "Greate!  Create Your Own PokeChill
Greate!  Create Your Own Pixel Flow Level
Greate!  Create Your Own PokePlunder
(it goes on longer)" - do you have a problem with this being deleted?

8. "Le Retour à la Genèse

Quote
Le monde a changé depuis le bloc genesis... (colle ici le texte que nous avons rédigé)


----- BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE -----
I am Satoshi Nakamoto. Today is February 2, 2026. This is for validation.
(continues)" - uhh... not the place for faketoshi reveals

9. "hmm interesting" - zero value post

10. "🚀 Unlock Your Digital Fortune with BITCOINKEY! 🚀
Ever wondered if there's a hidden treasure in the vast Bitcoin network? Our advanced BITCOINKEY bot helps you scan for dormant or lost P2PKH wallets, bringing the potential for forgotten digital wealth right to your fingertips.
✨ Why BITCOINKEY?" - I dunno, why Bitcoinkey, I think you get why it was deleted

11. "Given the way things are right now, I’ll probably take a little break until the end of the month. Switched to (shittycasino) and managed to get a small profit with these Bitcoin swings, it’s just impossible otherwise. Grin" - more spam

So most of the posts deleted were spam, and then your post, which was somewhat spammy and otherwise unconstructive. There is no conspiracy here.

Yeah, looking at those examples, most of them were clearly low value or straight up spam. It makes sense why they got removed, not really a conspiracy. In the end, forums like this just try to keep discussions useful and clean.

[PepeLapiu]

Yeah, looking at those examples, most of them were clearly low value or straight up spam. It makes sense why they got removed, not really a conspiracy. In the end, forums like this just try to keep discussions useful and clean.

Aka we are free to disagree and dissent, but only if it's in a manner deemed polite enough to those who are being criticized.
Now, of course nothing bad could result from that policy, right? Right!

Call it whatever you want, the fact is that critisizism of core 30 ends up almost completely silenced on this platform. And as a result, users of this forum will conclude criticism of core 30 is a fringe minority. Until you step out of the walled garden of core.

[d5000]

In spite of the controversy, and in spite of 25% of the nodes having switched away from core to either Knots or BIP110,

According to https://coin.dance/nodes, only about 2000-2500 nodes probably "switched away" (which is closer to 10-12%). When Knots grew from a few hundreds to 5000 nodes in a few weeks in early to mid-2025, during the same time Core nodes fell from 20.5k to 18.5k. That may have been "genuine" nodes switching away in protest.

Thus about 2000-2500 Knots nodes are new nodes that were spawned during the debate. One "could" suspect they were spawned to make a point. And the number of genuine nodes "switching" away didn't change after mid-2025.

Currently (last few days) coin.dance seems to "see" less both Knots and Core nodes compared to their "normal" values of the last months, but I believe this is simply some disconnection error from the node managed by coin.dance, as there were many such events in the past months.

Read the room, core. At least try to save a bit of pride and return the op_return filter.

Just use datacarriersize and put it to any number you want

(And really, as a Knots forum supermoderator - so I assume you have some Internet experience - you should know how easy it is to fake X accounts. It's more difficult actually to spam Bitcointalk than X.)

[Smartprofit]

I'm truly concerned about the current situation around Bitcoin. 🙅 This all reminds me of Bitcoin Cash and Roger Ver and Jihan Wu's attack on Bitcoin in the fall of 2017. We almost lost our beloved Bitcoin back then. There was also a conflict between miners (and a conflict between developers)...

This kind of conflict, in my opinion, is very dangerous. As far as I understand, there's already talk of a hard fork and the dismissal of the Bitcoin Core development team. Is that the ultimate goal? However, this raises the question: how professional is the alternative Bitcoin development team? Do they possess the necessary professional knowledge and skills? Is it true that these new Bitcoin developers are really just one or at most two people? And the main question is: who exactly is behind these people? Perhaps they are some evil force that wants to destroy Bitcoin? 🙆

That's what worries me... I wouldn't want Bitcoin to be developed by amateurs.  And I really wouldn't want the "bad guys" to gain control of the world's first cryptocurrency. 🧖

[nutildah]

Strange, isn't it? How every single negative comment is deemed offensive or low value?

You powered right through my explanation which was your comment was deleted because you were shilling your YouTube channel, which is not just classless and spammy but completely off-topic.

When you begin a statement with

"I don't need to wait, I can already see the results."

You've made it clear you're not interested in actually contributing anything to the topic of conversation. You have clear goal here which is taking a dogmatic stance in the quest for self-promotion. The fact that this thread itself remains is proof you are not being censored.

The most controversial post in the thread is still there:

I downloaded version 30.2 from Bitcoincore.org to recover a legacy wallet, and once the wallet was restored with the new version, it had 41 Bitcoins.
To spend them, I synchronized the FULL node.
I sent a test transfer of 20.5 to one of my wallets before finishing, but it remained in the mempool with 0 confirmations because the synchronization wasn't complete yet.
(edit for brevity)

If achow101 was so afraid of criticism as you claim he would have deleted this post. But he did not, just self-promotional garbage.

[PepeLapiu]

I'm truly concerned about the current situation around Bitcoin. 🙅

So am I, friend, so am I.

This all reminds me of Bitcoin Cash and Roger Ver and Jihan Wu's attack on Bitcoin in the fall of 2017. We almost lost our beloved Bitcoin back then. There was also a conflict between miners (and a conflict between developers)...

You should know that the nodes won the block war. Roger Ver et al saw no problems with imcunbering nodes with large data and large blocks. And he felts nodes were not that important.

Today, we find ourselves in a similar situation. Some actors think incumbering the nodes with increasingly large amounts of spam, and ultimately illicit material, is not a problem at all. The nodes disagree.

This kind of conflict, in my opinion, is very dangerous.

I don't think so. If there is a genuine problem to be addressed and we fail to rectify the situation by fear of conflict, the problem will only get worst. And I really believe there is a massive problem that needs to be rectified.

As far as I understand, there's already talk of a hard fork

Not really. It's mostly hyporbolic FUD coming from the pro-spam side. Nobody on the anti-spam side really talks about a hard fork. But the pro-spam side would have you believe anyone who fights spam wants to censor Iranian UTXOs, fork off the chain, and strangle cute puppies. We just want to fight off the spam attack that has been getting worst and worst over the last 5 years. And all that core was willing to do about it is rejecting proposed spam filters, and remove existing spam filters.

and the dismissal of the Bitcoin Core development team. Is that the ultimate goal?

Not at all. It's up to core to redeem itself and stop ignoring the arbitrary data problem, and do something about it. Or else face becoming irrellevent.

Core had a virtual monopoly on node software until last year, with 99.7% of the nodes being core nodes. They still have around 75% of the nodes. I find it amusing that core must absolutely maintain a complete monopoly, or else the small guy with only 25% of the nodes is out to destroy core.

A complete reversal of the David and Goliath story where the big guy is the good guy and David is the bad guy who wants to demolish Goliath.

However, this raises the question: how professional is the alternative Bitcoin development team? Do they possess the necessary professional knowledge and skills? Is it true that these new Bitcoin developers are really just one or at most two people? And the main question is: who exactly is behind these people?

Relax, relax, take a deep breath. Knots is 99% core maintained. It's a fork of core software backed by all the work of core. Albeit with some filters added. It's not like Luke is building Knots from the ground up.

And as far as I'm concerned, I think core is too big and too corporatized, they have too large a share of the funding and network. It's an obviously centralized project. I would like to see core reformed or broken up. Maybe 20 different devs all working on their own separate implementation wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.

And nothing good or productive ever comes out of a commity. You never get anything done by commity. And that's what core has become - a bloated too busy unproductive corporate like commity.

Perhaps they are some evil force that wants to destroy Bitcoin? 🙆

Character attacks are gratuous. Instead, try to concentrate on what they say and especially how they behave.

Here the head core maintainer is making fun and insulting bitcoiners who don't get into altcoins and shitcoins: https://youtu.be/EgmIh-rgqNA

Here the same head core maintainer is again making fun of bitcoiners who don't like alts:
https://youtu.be/TpgTsf3h7_Q

Here the same head core maintainer responsible for the core centralized mempool policy imposed on all the nodes is saying she doesn't understand economics and monetary sf-gpaU
https://youtu.be/ctks7f-gpaU

In the last video above, she also refers to spam as"use cases we have today" and she implies Satoshi failed to make room for it.

And after 4 years of a spam attack getting worst and worst, core though blowing up a spam filter would be a great idea.

That's what triggered the ongoing conflict: the fact that core is obviously compromised if they deliberately remove spam filters after a 4 year spam attack.

That's what worries me... I wouldn't want Bitcoin to be developed by amateurs.  And I really wouldn't want the "bad guys" to gain control of the world's first cryptocurrency. 🧖

My view is that the bad guys already took control of bitcoin. And someone of us are trying to wrestle that control away from them now. Do your own research. Please do so.

[Ambatman]

Read the room, core. At least try to save a bit of pride and return the op_return filter. And maybe try to stopnmaking excuses for spam.

and I was thinking users would show their support by the client they chose
And from stats core is Still leading by alot.
Knots is just 22% compare to core 77.79%
Though there has been a fall on core
It's less than how you put it
I thought we have passed the stage of Core Vs knot and users have the right to pick their clients.  

[nutildah]

zzzzz

Wow. Simply stunning. You are completely impervious to what's happening in your immediate reality. Breathtakingly ironic.

Hey bro I have a little secret to share with you: nobody cares about your YouTube channel.

[Cookdata]

Read the room, core. At least try to save a bit of pride and return the op_return filter. And maybe try to stopnmaking excuses for spam.

and I was thinking users would show their support by the client they chose
And from stats core is Still leading by alot.
Knots is just 22% compare to core 77.79%
Though there has been a fall on core
It's less than how you put it
I thought we have passed the stage of Core Vs knot and users have the right to pick their clients.  

I will not believe this stats, I have seen more of their inflated figures and it's obvious the numbers are boosted to suit their ego.

They are not interested in knot and core figures anymore, it's now BIP110 sybillers and core, playing around with numbers to prove a vague point.

[PepeLapiu]

Read the room, core. At least try to save a bit of pride and return the op_return filter. And maybe try to stopnmaking excuses for spam.

and I was thinking users would show their support by the client they chose
And from stats core is Still leading by alot.
Knots is just 22% compare to core 77.79%
Though there has been a fall on core
It's less than how you put it
I thought we have passed the stage of Core Vs knot and users have the right to pick their clients.  

You are reading the stats incorrectly.
Knots (including BIP110) is 25% of the nodes, depending on who's counting.
Core 30 is less than 22% of the nodes.

Meaning more people switched to Knots than people updated to core 30. And there is a possibility that a number of those core 30 updates were done with automatic updates in Casa nodes. Which is by itself a great security risk.

Point being, you have to deliberately switch to Knots. But an unknown amount of core 30 have updated to core 30 without the user even knowing about it.

The rest of the network, over 50% of them, have not taken a position either way. Maybe they have not heard about the conflict, maybe they don't care. But we know they are not updating to core 30. Which should tell you a great deal.

Hey bro I have a little secret to share with you: nobody cares about your YouTube channel.

What about a head of core making fun of bitcoiners and insulting bitcoiners? Do you care about that?

[Ambatman]

You are reading the stats incorrectly.
Knots (including BIP110) is 25% of the nodes, depending on who's counting.
Core 30 is less than 22% of the nodes.

Okay now you being biased with your data
You comparing a full client users to a version user
Knot most recent version is around 24% of current knot
Which is like 5.5% of total nodes.

But we know they are not updating to core 30. Which should tell you a great deal.

nor are they switching to knots
I believe they more on the fence and just want see how things pan out before updating.

[PepeLapiu]

You are reading the stats incorrectly.
Knots (including BIP110) is 25% of the nodes, depending on who's counting.
Core 30 is less than 22% of the nodes.

Okay now you being biased with your data
You comparing a full client users to a version user
Knot most recent version is around 24% of current knot
Which is like 5.5% of total nodes.

But we know they are not updating to core 30. Which should tell you a great deal.

nor are they switching to knots
I believe they more on the fence and just want see how things pan out before updating.

Are you for real?

25% of the core nodes switched to knots in the last year. And you want to dismiss them because they have not updated to the lastest Knots version that came out like 2 weeks ago?

In realisty the number of Knots nodes have actually declined in the last 2 months as more of them are choosing to Signal with BIP110.

And interestingly enough, core 31 and core based BIP110 came out about the same time. and BIP110 on vote is seeing faster adoption than core 31.


Look at it this way. If you dismiss over 50% of the nodes who are still running old core versions, as they obviously have not taken a position, more nodes have switched to Knots in the last year than updated to core 30/31.

[PrivacyG]

Say what you are saying is completely true and as legitimate as it can be and Bitcoin Talk is Censoring the negativity really hard while X shows the truth.

Where is the problem?  You claim yourself that a lot of Nodes are switching away from Core.  This means the Decentralization is working in spite of the Censorship you claim there is on that Topic.  If Bitcoin Talk goes to 1984 mode while X allows Freedom of Speech, it means all voices can still be heard if you look for them.

In fact.  This is kind of stupid considering you are calling this Forum a Censored bubble while you can freely talk about it in your own separate Topic.  It does not make much sense, does it.

[nutildah]

The only censorship that occurs here is when you spam the forum hard about how censored you are. Nobody is censoring you. Not like it would matter if they were, because you're not saying anything at all. Every post you make is just stick-to-your-guns, head-in-the-sand tribalism, with a touch of "plz visit my YouTube channel."

What about a head of core making fun of bitcoiners and insulting bitcoiners? Do you care about that?

Absolutely not, no.

It does not make much sense, does it.

He's not here to make sense. He's here to kick core ass and chew bubblegum, and he's all out of bubblegum.

[PepeLapiu]

In fact.  This is kind of stupid considering you are calling this Forum a Censored bubble while you can freely talk about it in your own separate Topic.  It does not make much sense, does it.

Buddy, you have no idea. For months and months, my posts and my threads were either deleted, locked, or moved to an obscure section with significantly less traffic. And it's still happening, albeit at a lower rate now.

I've been temporarily banned twice on the last 6 months or so.

I've been here for pretty long. I never saw any of my posts moved/deleted/locked until I started to discuss the subject of core corruption some 6 months ago.

[nutildah]

Buddy, you have no idea. For months and months, my posts and my threads were either deleted, locked, or moved to an obscure section with significantly less traffic. And it's still happening, albeit at a lower rate now.

The reason why its happening at a lower rate now is because you are subconsciously learning the forum rules. I realize this means nothing to you, but for everyone else who sees you flailing your arms crying "censorship", most of your deleted posts break 1 of 2 rules:

1) your post was considered off-topic, trollish or spammy, or
2) you keep double-posting instead of editing your most recent post.

But you're just trying to make big noise like any spammer would and you don't actually care about how the forum operates. Having a terrible attitude about everything will not help your cause, either.

[PepeLapiu]

The reason why its happening at a lower rate now is because you are subconsciously learning the forum rules.

Yeah, that's right. Prior to the spam war, I somehow completely understood the rules so well as to never get censored/deleted/moved/kicked.

And somehow, the very minute the spam war started and some people started to oppose what core is doing, I suddenly forgot all the forum rules, and I'm just starting to remember them now.

And for some weird completely unrelated reason, anywhere else on the internet, when a core sppologist flaps his gums, he gets crusified and cooked in the comments.

And it's it weird that only here and the Google Devs list, there is almost no voice of dissent against core 30!

Are you a tin foil coincidence theorist?