How Casinos Detect Bonus Abuse.

[imthegreat]

And also on the abuser's side there is a proxy and VPN. That is, the online casino will not understand exactly who is logging in with a new username. That's probably why they're introducing KYC, but then again, AI is now great at generating documents, once you show it a few examples. Therefore, casinos are definitely experiencing difficult times in terms of abusers.

In contrast to your argument, I can tell you that online casinos have software tools for calculating the current location of a gambler or bettor. I do not know how they do it, but I saw a couple of casino sites and applications that did not care about the VPN with which I entered, they absolutely accurately wrote my country and language of communication.
I didn't have any malicious intent, and I've never been involved in gambling, but this online casino was apparently very strict and they wouldn't let me register on their website. Therefore, casinos have excellent software protection if they have the money for it.

[arwin100]

And also on the abuser's side there is a proxy and VPN. That is, the online casino will not understand exactly who is logging in with a new username. That's probably why they're introducing KYC, but then again, AI is now great at generating documents, once you show it a few examples. Therefore, casinos are definitely experiencing difficult times in terms of abusers.

In contrast to your argument, I can tell you that online casinos have software tools for calculating the current location of a gambler or bettor. I do not know how they do it, but I saw a couple of casino sites and applications that did not care about the VPN with which I entered, they absolutely accurately wrote my country and language of communication.
I didn't have any malicious intent, and I've never been involved in gambling, but this online casino was apparently very strict and they wouldn't let me register on their website. Therefore, casinos have excellent software protection if they have the money for it.

For sure they know how to detect it, since they provably get an idea on past situations happen either to them or other casinos.

Also this situation is not new so for sure that those casino operators knows already how to prevent such type of abuse.

This blog site also have nice explanation on how those situation happen and the damage it can possibly cause on the casino https://sumsub.com/blog/promo-abuse-fraud-how-to-avoid-it/

[Doan9269]

It is not possible that you see a casino have an offer to promotes and then not ensuring that they implement a strategic measure to prevent those that will abuse it, because there are gamblers that are known for this, don't look for exploit or try to perform a tricky act on the casinos so that your account will not be restricted or being flagged, I understand that song will be more desperate and eager to win or use those bonuses more often and repeatedly for their own advantage at the coast of the casino, which shouldn't be allowed.

[davis196]

We all know how the casinos can detect multiple accounts and bonus abuse- they keep track on IP addresses and browser fingerprints.
The question is how the gamblers can abuse bonuses since the casinos require KYC verification? Can a gambler create 2 or 3 casino accounts at the same crypto casino with the same ID photo/scan and selfie? I don't believe that this is possible. Even if he manages to create 3 accounts and use the bonuses, the casino would require KYC at withdrawal. How can the gambler withdraw his crypto, if he can't provide 3 different ID cards and 3 different selfies?

[rezakurnia66]

We all know how the casinos can detect multiple accounts and bonus abuse- they keep track on IP addresses and browser fingerprints.
The question is how the gamblers can abuse bonuses since the casinos require KYC verification? Can a gambler create 2 or 3 casino accounts at the same crypto casino with the same ID photo/scan and selfie? I don't believe that this is possible. Even if he manages to create 3 accounts and use the bonuses, the casino would require KYC at withdrawal. How can the gambler withdraw his crypto, if he can't provide 3 different ID cards and 3 different selfies?

Tracking trough IP address, deposit wallet fund until multiple wallet for withdrawal its the way how the casino detect bonus abuse. Usually the casino have bonuses offer for the new user make minimum fund deposit and using the previously address have deposit with other account make easily for casino detect the bonus abuse.
Nowadays the gambler have been smart and have way how to cheat KYC requirement, I think the regulation each casino right now difference not allow and require with KYC for withdrawal but easily to know if someone cheat bonus trough account registering with the same IP. Having multiple ID I think not difficult nowadays many people want to pay for KYC requirement although with lower price.

[Ronsbit]

I will say that the game or play pattern also makes it very easy for casinos to detect abuse on their system. A player might be able to scale through other aspects of cheating but the truth is that the styles and patterns being deployed are what best works for them so there is every tendency or possibility that they would unleash the same play strategy to get what they want to so casinos pay more attention to game pattern than all these because they know players would always want to use their winning streak on them as it suits them and that is where they catch cheaters who abuses their system. If you check some cases on the accusations board, you will notice that casinos sometimes talk about play patterns, and before they come to such conclusions, they must have taken their time to investigate the accounts involved to be able to get similarities that match their claims, before they take further actions, and when they do that, they have exhausted all their mechanism in running an investigation on thaose accounts involved in such act.

[maydna]

Besides @OP tells, casinos can detect the suspicious activity from members. That makes them holds the withdrawal process until further checking and will tells members to verifying their account before casinos continue the process.

Casinos had the data from all members so they can easily filtering and searching for abusers. The patterns can also be their guide to finds abusers and they will use more ways to catch the abusers.

We only guess what they will do if they suspicious with some accounts. We know that they can do many thing to their members so we must makes sure that we don't makes mistakes.

[Darker45]

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Some says bonus are like a play money to test the system. Guess this is because they also find it hard to profit on them but if so, then casinos should rename these. The name bonus doesn't simply fit IMO. Maybe except only to those that only has no deposit requirement and those that has no or only has 1x wagering requirement.

It has to be called such because it has to do the trick. They're there for a reason, and the reason is business. The ultimate goal is revenue. They aren't provided as a charity.

It's certainly rare to find a casino bonus that doesn't come with a deposit and a wagering requirement. If there's such an offer, there must be other strict terms that make sure the casino is protected from the risk of losing. Understandably, bonuses always come with restrictive terms.

[Wakate]

I will say that the game or play pattern also makes it very easy for casinos to detect abuse on their system. A player might be able to scale through other aspects of cheating but the truth is that the styles and patterns being deployed are what best works for them so there is every tendency or possibility that they would unleash the same play strategy to get what they want to so casinos pay more attention to game pattern than all these because they know players would always want to use their winning streak on them as it suits them and that is where they catch cheaters who abuses their system. If you check some cases on the accusations board, you will notice that casinos sometimes talk about play patterns, and before they come to such conclusions, they must have taken their time to investigate the accounts involved to be able to get similarities that match their claims, before they take further actions, and when they do that, they have exhausted all their mechanism in running an investigation on thaose accounts involved in such act.

There are so many ways casinos can detect if a gambler has cheated on their platform. For people that think a casino can not know if they have cheated must be joking because there are so many third party tools casinos can use to know those people that are using VPN on their platform and if they use multiple accounts to claim bonus.

[Ronsbit]

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There are so many ways casinos can detect if a gambler has cheated on their platform. For people that think a casino can not know if they have cheated must be joking because there are so many third party tools casinos can use to know those people that are using VPN on their platform and if they use multiple accounts to claim bonus.

Casinos know when a gambler cheats their system, and they do take punitive measures for such act against such a player, and it is not ethical and responsible. Yes, everybody wants to make a good profit, but it should be through a genuine means, not a crafty and insincere means of robbing firms of their money. Although some casinos act rashly, you see why players also act smart on them to also get from them because of how they also act in withholding players' funds.

[gunhell16]

If ever there is a casino that discovers abusive players on their casino platform, I think they will not let the community know about it unless, for example, they have a complainant on their casino gambling platform and in the end they discover that the complainant is a cheater; then they can expose the person.

But if they themselves discover this, I think it is only basic requirements for them to demand KYC from a user or player that they suspect has done something undesirable because they
saw it in the history of their games. This is just my guess.

[Japinat]

But if they themselves discover this, I think it is only basic requirements for them to demand KYC from a user or player that they suspect has done something undesirable because they
saw it in the history of their games. This is just my guess.

That’s the basic thing they do, but some people misunderstand it. Even if someone is knowingly cheating, they think they can still get away with it as long as they pass KYC.

My suspicion is that casinos may already have an idea when an account is abusing something, and they just require KYC to confirm the identity. That way, they have a record of who is behind the account. So if the user later complains or tries to damage the casino’s reputation, the casino already has the real details and can take action if needed.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

But if they themselves discover this, I think it is only basic requirements for them to demand KYC from a user or player that they suspect has done something undesirable because they
saw it in the history of their games. This is just my guess.

That’s the basic thing they do, but some people misunderstand it. Even if someone is knowingly cheating, they think they can still get away with it as long as they pass KYC.

My suspicion is that casinos may already have an idea when an account is abusing something, and they just require KYC to confirm the identity. That way, they have a record of who is behind the account. So if the user later complains or tries to damage the casino’s reputation, the casino already has the real details and can take action if needed.

I'm not really sure if casino will go to the lengths of requiring KYC, although there could be a lot of reasons why they are asking for it. Basically it is has been mandated by gambling regulatory that KYC is now a must.

If they have suspicions that a account might be cheating then they will go on a investigation and probably KYC might be their last resort. But once a account has been flag already, for sure the evidence is overwhelming like IP address and any other fingerprints that they've seen will be enough for that account to be ban.

[lionheart78]

I'm not really sure if casino will go to the lengths of requiring KYC, although there could be a lot of reasons why they are asking for it. Basically it is has been mandated by gambling regulatory that KYC is now a must.

If you look at the cases present here in the forum, we almost see all issue required a KYC verification, so it is almost a certainty that when someone have issue with the casino, they have to undergo KYC, and if they had done the basic, they will be required to undergo level 2 even level 3 KYC depending on the severity of the case.

If they have suspicions that a account might be cheating then they will go on a investigation and probably KYC might be their last resort.

Most of the time KYC is always the first resort.  I seldom see a withdrawal issue with account suspension in the casino without an initial need to undergo the KYC procedure.

[Dunamisx]

If we are also running a business, we wouldn't want to take it for granted and allow others to take advantage of us to cheat, therefore raising more concerned on the security alert, which could prevents any attempt that is aimed at abusing the bonus, that is why most of the cheaters are being caught, because the system set in place could easily dictect any form of attempt in such manner that is against their casino ethics.

[buwaytress]

I've been closed off for bonuses at a really prominent and old casino on this forum, citing bonus abuse. It happened during a several week period where I decided to be active for a bit. Claimed bonuses every day; these were personalised ones they emailed you and unique to you. Most had simple wager requirements which I met (2x, or 3x). Didn't cheat, and these were really small 1%-2% bonuses based on deposit.

Is it my fault to take all the bonuses you offer just to me? And my fault I didn't bust?

So I tell you what I think, that there's a threshold of bonus winnings you're allowed to make before you're deemed an abuser. Lose it all the time and I guarantee you'll be allowed to take all the bonuses you want.

[shawonngp]

I will say that the game or play pattern also makes it very easy for casinos to detect abuse on their system. A player might be able to scale through other aspects of cheating but the truth is that the styles and patterns being deployed are what best works for them so there is every tendency or possibility that they would unleash the same play strategy to get what they want to so casinos pay more attention to game pattern than all these because they know players would always want to use their winning streak on them as it suits them and that is where they catch cheaters who abuses their system. If you check some cases on the accusations board, you will notice that casinos sometimes talk about play patterns, and before they come to such conclusions, they must have taken their time to investigate the accounts involved to be able to get similarities that match their claims, before they take further actions, and when they do that, they have exhausted all their mechanism in running an investigation on thaose accounts involved in such act.

There are so many ways casinos can detect if a gambler has cheated on their platform. For people that think a casino can not know if they have cheated must be joking because there are so many third party tools casinos can use to know those people that are using VPN on their platform and if they use multiple accounts to claim bonus.

Correct, most casino sites use various paid tools that accurately identify a user's IP address, KYC status, and more, so no one can get away with abusing any casino rules and regulations. Those who want to get any offer or bonus from multiple accounts using vpn will be easily detected. And the TOS of each casino site states that if suspicious user activity is noticed, KYC may be requested, and even evidence of the source of income may be required. So now no user can abuse any offer so easily and take advantage of illegal opportunities.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

I also want to add that sometimes, casinos can trace passwords that are similar and they start to monitor the account to see if those accounts that are linked with passwords are having other similar activities and timing for bets etc. Some gamblers who cheat are in a haste and may not be cognizant that they can be monitored. So I believe password check can be possible to trace if a gambler has cheating traces or not.

I do not really concur to this because there is a good possibility that a least more than one person can share the same name and use identical name and number combinations of even special character combinations. Passwords are not unique fields to track similarities else you'll have lots of false positives.

If a person uses same password, then the may/must have been logged in from the same device and the session data stored on your browser or even your IP address may have already give you in.

[Outhue]

*IP Addresses, maybe the same with other people on the casino? They look for double accounts
*Even if it's VPN connection there might be some leaks, every VPN connection can't be trusted, which is why I advise against it.
*KYC information, which to me is the least.

There is a chance that they will look for broken rules too, something that you might have done some weeks back, this is why avoiding stupid behaviour as a gambler is important, keep their rules and regulation as priority, don't break them and you will be fine, I don't believe that all I listed on here is everything, casinos have more ways to checking for abusers and cheaters, they won't want to disclose everything so that abusers won't find a way to beat their security system.

[dwyane36]

*IP Addresses, maybe the same with other people on the casino? They look for double accounts
*Even if it's VPN connection there might be some leaks, every VPN connection can't be trusted, which is why I advise against it.
*KYC information, which to me is the least.

There is a chance that they will look for broken rules too, something that you might have done some weeks back, this is why avoiding stupid behaviour as a gambler is important, keep their rules and regulation as priority, don't break them and you will be fine, I don't believe that all I listed on here is everything, casinos have more ways to checking for abusers and cheaters, they won't want to disclose everything so that abusers won't find a way to beat their security system.

If a VPN is configured correctly, there shouldn’t be any leaks. However, simply changing your IP address doesn’t mean that a casino or any other service won’t be able to detect that a user is abusing multiple accounts. At the very least, casinos can collect various data about users’ devices, thereby creating digital fingerprints that can later help them identify abusers.