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Today at 09:30:51 AM
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I am from a country where there are very few or no members on this forum. So I would like to know if I can post on other local boards as well?
Since there is no active community for my country, it would be helpful for me to participate in other boards. I hope someone can give me clear guidance on this.
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Today at 09:42:29 AM
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I'm pretty sure the forum doesn't restrict you from posting on a board based on where your IP is coming from.

From what I understand, you can post on any local board so long as you can speak (type) the language of that board. Google translate doesn't count. Like, don't go and translate language A. into language B. and hit the post button. It's frowned upon and I'm pretty sure it's against the rules. Members of international boards can tell when their language is being google translatified...if that's even a word.

What country are you from? If you don't wanna say I totally get it.Your English isn't terrible, man!  Smiley
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Today at 10:12:00 AM
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If your interest is genuine, and if you use those other local forums to gain and share knowledge, not only you can post on those boards but you are certainly allowed to use AI or automated translation tools for that purpose, as the forum administrator recently pointed out.

If you don't have that language barrier, all the better, but since I can tell you're new, it wouldn't hurt to take a look at the forum rules.

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Today at 10:34:13 AM
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Are there really that few users in the English-language section? The OP has already written in English, and I see no obstacle to writing in English, unless it's in sections where English-language topics are discussed in local sections, and we sometimes see merit-hunters there. Cheesy

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Today at 10:39:41 AM
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I was referring to rule 27.

Obviously theymos posting what you linked, especially with how recently he posted it, superceeds the rule I guess? Could he have just meant automated translation with the use of AI to refine something into a different language for better readability and grammar?

I'm almost certain if I go to the Itallian local board, and translate an entire post using google translate, fillippone will give me this look: 🧐
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Today at 10:40:42 AM
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I am from a country where there are very few or no members on this forum. So I would like to know if I can post on other local boards as well?
Since there is no active community for my country, it would be helpful for me to participate in other boards. I hope someone can give me clear guidance on this.
Well, your question has been answered above. But I still want to know, do you intend to adopt one local board and continue to discuss there you wish to be jumping from one local board to another. The former will be a better idea than the later.

However, it is good to understand that you can be very okay here without posting in any local boards, so it shouldn't bother you much if you don't have community yet here.

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Today at 10:54:31 AM
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I am from a country where there are very few or no members on this forum. So I would like to know if I can post on other local boards as well?
Even though there is no restriction like that in the forum, you can post on other local boards if you want but you need to follow some consistency. Local boards are usually discussed in native languages. If you can properly speak the language of that country and easily use the native language then there is no problem. If you can understand well, write properly and present your opinions nicely, then it is okay for you.

Keep in mind, if you try to speak in another local board using Google Translate, you may not properly understand their native language. So, if you can follow everything correctly and respect the local board’s own culture and rules then there is no issue with posting there.

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Today at 11:30:46 AM
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I am from a country where there are very few or no members on this forum. So I would like to know if I can post on other local boards as well?
Since there is no active community for my country, it would be helpful for me to participate in other boards. I hope someone can give me clear guidance on this.
What is your intention in the local board you want to participant in, if participation is the only reason you want to go to the local board we have a board called other boards/languages, you can create a thread there if your local language is not in English then you free to reach out to others in the forum from the thread if they find it then you can have a local board to participate in, basically the forum does not allow you to participate in a local board where its not English, using translator to write in another local board is prohibited.
 

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Local boards are supposed to be for a specific group of people to discuss issues that are peculiar to their country.  Asides from merit hunting, I see no reason why OP will need to participate in other local board discussions. The general board has more than enough active discussions a newbie can contribute to and learn from.

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Today at 12:01:20 PM
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Local boards are supposed to be for a specific group of people to discuss issues that are peculiar to their country.  Asides from merit hunting, I see no reason why OP will need to participate in other local board discussions. The general board has more than enough active discussions a newbie can contribute to and learn from.

Maybe the op has something he feels he can share or learn from the local board. I've seen users who aren't of the locale come up to make posts. If you feel it will be challenging for you to freely express yourself, op, maybe you should just stick to the main boards. It's not all the topics that are addressed in the local boards but in the general section, there are varieties.
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I was referring to rule 27.

Obviously theymos posting what you linked, especially with how recently he posted it, superceeds the rule I guess? Could he have just meant automated translation with the use of AI to refine something into a different language for better readability and grammar?

I'm almost certain if I go to the Italian local board, and translate an entire post using google translate, fillippone will give me this look: 🧐

fillippone is quite an open minded person, so I'm pretty sure if you go to the Italian local board with a legitimate question or saying something that adds value to the board he is not going to give you any weird look.

While you were at it you could have read the last page of the Unofficial rules thread, where people quote theymos' stance on AI translation and ask for it to be updated (it hasn't been yet).

Here you have a reply of him about the subject:

you can tell the AI to "Directly translate this text into Spanish: <something you wrote>"
How does this align with this rule:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
I assume this rule was created to stop people from posting their automated translations on many boards, and I don't think this should be allowed again.

That rule is mainly to prevent annoyingly-bad translations. Posting a good AI translation (that's also a direct translation, without any "AI-isms") is fine, in my view. Though if specific local-board moderators want to ban it or limit it, they can. Also, if you or your post have nothing to do with a local board, then your post may be off-topic even if translated.

I guess that rule was implemented when online translators were laughable (even though it might not seem like it, they were pretty bad a decade ago).


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Today at 01:29:40 PM
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I am from a country where there are very few or no members on this forum. So I would like to know if I can post on other local boards as well?
Since there is no active community for my country, it would be helpful for me to participate in other boards. I hope someone can give me clear guidance on this.
If you post on different boards for learning these languages, that's good, and forum does not prohibit you doing this. It is like you don't have good English but are posting in English.

If you post on a board that is not your main language for showing your appreciation if someone translated your thread to that local language, that is accepted.
Like fillippone did it many times, and his account was not banned.
Thank you very much, my friend, for your translation.
Definitely, this is one of the funniest threads I've ever written (sadly, it ended badly).

Courtesy translation by Google Translate:
Maraming salamat, aking kaibigan, para sa iyong pagsasalin.
Talagang isa ito sa mga pinakanakakatawang thread na naisulat ko (nakalulungkot, hindi maganda ang natapos).

It's only not accepted by forum rules if you do that for spamming in order to get your post count or fish merit.

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Today at 02:53:53 PM
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it would be helpful for me to participate in other boards. I hope someone can give me clear guidance on this.
What I see from established users is that they write in the local language followed by English text, this only shows that you are not from that locale and avoids misperceptions if you do not involve native speakers to help write in other languages.

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Today at 03:01:57 PM
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The only barrier here would be the language but English is common to all, still people visit the local board to be able to speak in their own language.

I mean I dont understand Greek, so why would I even post there at all? Not that I mean any offense to my Greek co-members.

There are so many global boards, you could keep yourself busy posting in them only.

 
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Today at 03:06:29 PM
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Forum doesn't restrict anything, as long as it is not a serious death threat, even spam is completely allowed. Smiley

How about participating in the global boards and I am sure there is enough threads that is worth checking our or replying to compared with an unknown language where you might use translator that really changes the meaning of the post into something else.

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Today at 03:08:01 PM
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If you are posting in a local board, you should use the language of said board. There is no other, real, reason to post in a local board. There are reasons for people to do it, but they are usually not positive ones (merit farming, promoting something, etc). Smiley

As an example, when I still moderated the Dutch section, I didn't allow people to talk English in the Dutch board. It was almost always spam. The only real exceptions I allowed was someone actively living in The Netherlands and, for example, trying to buy/sell BTC for euro locally.

 
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Today at 03:18:22 PM
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Here is an example for better context:

I am not from England or the UK, but I know how to speak, write, and read the English language, so in all my entire forum existence, I have been posting in English boards without any restriction or problems. So if you know how to read and write the language, then it's OK to post in that particular local board. What would become bad is not knowing the language and trying to use Google Translate or AI to create responses for you.

 
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Today at 03:54:21 PM
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It could only me but I don't like non-local members becoming frequent in particular local board, sure sometimes it's fine when you really have something to say on topic you found on local board and I have seen it happening in my local board too but don't behave like local when you are outsider.

Local boards are called local boards for a reason.

...even spam is completely allowed. Smiley

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Today at 06:50:36 PM
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Making posts in other local boards that you are not originally a citizen of that country is not forbidden but if you are not fluent in that language I see no reason why you should be making posts there because even if you use translation tools it might derail you from the real meaning and explanation of what you wanted to write about. That notwithstanding, local boards were created to help users who are not fluent in English speaking but since you can write in English, what do you still need a local board for?

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Today at 07:26:57 PM
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Local boards are supposed to be for a specific group of people to discuss issues that are peculiar to their country.  Asides from merit hunting, I see no reason why OP will need to participate in other local board discussions. The general board has more than enough active discussions a newbie can contribute to and learn from.
I think a Yes for me, if he can speak the local language of that board without using AI.

I believe most local boards have sub boards that discuss personal issue while the main board are for posts mostly Bitcoin related, someone who is capable to read and write in that language should be allowed to communicate in the local board. Example, the Nigerian local board mostly have threads created in English, this language is generally spoken which mean whatever they write in that local board should count as a contribution to the thread or contribute to their learning, all local board rules must be well observed.

Only wrong when a user is trying to camouflage as a member of a local board for personal benefits.


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