Bitcointalk Age Verification?

[Rikafip]

I don't think anyone will like to do KYC here

People were doing full KYC (and still are) for shitty airdrops, so I am pretty sure there would be a certain number of people here who wouldn't mind doing that if it meant they could continue making money from this forum.

Having said that, I like to think that theymos would rather kill this forum than introduce mandatory KYC.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You want my left nut?

I'm the government.  I want both nuts.  And if you've ever rented them out, you owe taxes.  I'm going to need the renter's information so I can tax them as well.  In fact, gimme everything you got.  Gimme gimme gimme gimme.....

*OK, I'll knock that shit off real quick*

Every fucking day the news gets bleaker, more depressing, and it seems obvious that not just the US but Europe (at least) is headed toward a totalitarian, dystopian way of life.  And I've been asking myself and others what I can do about it, me being basically a pissant with no power or influence, and so far no good answers have emerged.

Age verification on bitcointalk?  I've learned never to rule anything out, but man I am hoping that doesn't happen.

[LTU_btc]

People were doing full KYC (and still are) for shitty airdrops, so I am pretty sure there would be a certain number of people here who wouldn't mind doing that if it meant they could continue making money from this forum.

Having said that, I like to think that theymos would rather kill this forum than introduce mandatory KYC.

Yeah, I've seen people giving away their personal data with easy hand for $20. I'm sure that plenty people would do KYC there. They can do a lot to not lose this source of income.

I don't feel age verification is necessary for the forum. Because if you are not a native English speaker or are not studying in the English medium, then using this forum for a child isn't easy. Out of that, even if the forum adds this age verification, then users will just tick the mark on the terms and proceed. Because there is no KYC for the forum, and it will never happen, I believe, so there is no true way to verify the age without personal documents.

Bitcoin is decentralised; the forum serves to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Hence, even children would learn about Bitcoin from the forum. This isn't social media; the forum would consider crypto academy as well. So I don't see any problems even if children join the forum. Not sure in the future if regulations force the implementation of this age verification; otherwise, it's unnecessary.

It doesn't matters much what you or me think about it. These who impose these kind of regulations just don't care about these things. For now we are discussing it like hypothetical scenario. But never say never.

[LoyceV]

People were doing full KYC (and still are) for shitty airdrops, so I am pretty sure there would be a certain number of people here who wouldn't mind doing that if it meant they could continue making money from this forum.

We'd end up with the wrong people:

When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc.

Having said that, I like to think that theymos would rather kill this forum than introduce mandatory KYC.

KYC is a clusterfuck for privacy, even when the intentions are pure (which I doubt). In my country, everyone's data get leaked almost annually from all kinds of sources. Just recently a large internet provider leaked millions of passport numbers in a hack.
We'd need a truly decentralized forum, but it's complicated.

[SamReomo]

I would genuinely leave the forum if I was forced to hand over an ID and selfie to post here.

Same with any "OS", wtf is their goal with this, to take away my anonymity in the name of children? (while burying the Epstein files?)

You're not alone many people on this forum love to use the forum the way it is, and if somehow KYC becomes mandatory here then I'm pretty sure that a good number of forum members will no longer be as active as they're right now or they'll just read the posts of others for their knowledge by using this forum.

I'll personally avoid any OS that's going to require age verification, the elite want to control the world, and they want to take our privacy in the name of children and such thing is not accepted at all. I feel bad for the people who live in European countries because such times are really tough times for the ones who're privacy enthusiasts.

[dkbit98]

Here is UK and iPhone already implementing age verification with latest update for iPhones. 
This thing is going to spread to other countries and other platforms soon, unless there is more resistance:

This idea of ​​a law requiring age verification for internet use is one of the worst ideas governments have had in the last 20 years (if not longer).

It's probably best idea for them, since they can silence any opposition voices much quicker.
I don't think all countries will adopt this now, but when one countries start domino's will start to fall.

People were doing full KYC (and still are) for shitty airdrops, so I am pretty sure there would be a certain number of people here who wouldn't mind doing that if it meant they could continue making money from this forum.

Exactly, and they are still doing it for stupid things all the time.

I'm pretty sure my Linux laptop doesn't use its microphone to spy on me, but I've always toyed with the idea of physically removing it.

I would not trust anything coming from Ubuntu now.
Older THinkpad laptops are great because you can turn off many things you don't want with physical switches.
T480 also has mechanical switch for turning camera off, and it's not that hard to detach anything from motherboard, including microphone.

[joker_josue]

This idea of ​​a law requiring age verification for internet use is one of the worst ideas governments have had in the last 20 years (if not longer).

It's probably best idea for them, since they can silence any opposition voices much quicker.
I don't think all countries will adopt this now, but when one countries start domino's will start to fall.

Exactly. It all started with that "data protection" law, the GDPR.
It is only with the existence of the GDPR that all these KYC laws have become possible.

Because this law conveys the idea of: "I can collect any data, as long as the citizen can request that it be deleted."

So basically, companies are free to collect any data, because it has already been proven that very few people will question it.
Ultimately, they have complete freedom to collect whatever information they want, since the law allows them to; for them, all it takes is a "delete record" button, and everything is within the law.



This reminds me of what happened in my country a few years ago. To subscribe to any service (TV, Internet, Electricity, etc.), a photocopy of the citizen ID card was required. The only way to subscribe to the service was by providing a copy, so everyone did it without much question.
But the problem wasn't actually asking for a copy; it was the citizen "lending" the card to the employee so that he could make a photocopy of it.

The law has always been clear that you could never take someone else's card to make photocopies (or anything else). Then, in 2017, a public figure, when confronted with this request, filed a complaint and publicized this illegality, which had been committed for many years, as much as possible.

As a result, the law was clarified, and today it's almost unnecessary to provide a photocopy of your citizen card to contract almost any service, something that was previously "mandatory".


Unfortunately, it will only be in a few years, when people see the real impact these new laws will have on their lives and everything involved, that they will take steps to make changes.

It's often said that you don't need to bang your head against a wall to know it hurts. But, unfortunately, some people need to bang their head against a wall very hard to realize that.