Betting on others suggestion

[jcojci]

People only ever want to take credit for something when it's a success, once you are failing they all distance themselves from you like you are a plague, you giving your friend that money was your choice, there absolutely nothing he would have done if you hadn't given him anything, I understand appreciating someone for helping you win something but that feeling of being entitled to a share of that winning is what will make me not give anything to him if I was in your place, nothing stopped him from placing a bet himself since he was so sure that thing ms were going to play out the way he predicted.

That is right as they will not see failing is part of the success itself. They see if fails comes to others is a mistake and will blame why others makes that mistakes. Maybe giving them money after winning is not be a problem but next time, you should not listen him about the prediction so you don't have to gives him the money if you win. He is bad example of friend who just want to take his part after winning but that is common as people wants to be called as "an important" person that gives prediction.

[EarnOnVictor]

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

I don't associate with such a ridiculous friend, to begin with, however, since it happened that way, if he bet as well, I will not give him anything.

The exception to that is if he couldn't afford to bet much, but I could. I might naturally compensate him, even without asking. But the moment he starts asking me as a right would change everything, which will totally deprive him of anything at all.

Will he give me anything if the money was lost? The friend might have suggested the betting choices, but you took the risk, so it's your money. If he would ask at all, it must be politely.

[Anayochukwu]

That is actually the problem of betting on others bettors suggestion because they will definitely claim that they contributed to get the winning that is why I don't like betting on someone suggestion. But the truth is that people are just different in reasoning because not everybody would have this mentality at all because gambling is just a way to try luck and have fun with friends and not something that would bring problems with friends at all because there are many people who don't like gambling so it's better to have good understanding and not by argument.

[Olatundespo]

If your friend had an agreement with you that you would give him a share of the winnings, it might be fair for him to claim a share of the profits. If there is no such verbal agreement, he is unfairly demanding money from you. You should have protested against this unfair demand for money.

I have never been in such a situation in my gambling experience. Many of my friends have given me advice while betting but they have never demanded a share of the winnings. They have helped me out with money when I was in financial trouble to bet.

The person you think is your friend is not your real friend. Try to keep your distance from him in the future. The more you can keep yourself free from such selfish people the better it will be.

[SatoPrincess]

I have been in similar situation and have gifted friends from my winnings before but they never approached me demanding for a cut. I am wary of friendships that can easily be broken by money problems. It wasn’t right for your friend to demand a percentage of your winnings, it is a sense of entitlement that should not be encouraged in your relationship.

[SmartGold01]

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

The initial time when I started gambling, if I do not sure of the teams or game that I am selecting, after everything I would give it to someone who knows more than me to also look at those game to see if they would play out as predicted. I kept doing this for long and when I finally understood things about sports betting then I do it on my own without having to either depends on someone to analyzed my games before I places bet or even adhered to someone predictions that i will keep betting on. The reason why many people do take games from tipster is that they don't actually know how to predict and even if they know they don't have that confidence in them that it would definitely come out to be winning, and we know that they all depends on luck for one to win money.

[justdimin]

What your friend did was unfair, for him giving you suggestion is a normal thing, but asking you for his own share of your profit is like it's his right and it's not justified, especially since he would not share the loss if the bet cut. In betting since you face the risk alone, so the outcome should also be yours. Situations like this happens often. Some people feel that because their prediction works, they deserve reward. But  they always forget that they didn't risk anything, that imbalance is what result to issues.

Agree. And if he was so confident about his pick he could have wagered his own money instead of forcing his friend (OP) to bet more. These types of people are the ones with whom I usually maintain distance because they take credit for anything they say that comes out true but take no accountability for things that go wrong.

I never had such an encounter and if I were OP, I would not give him money. Because now that friend will feel that he fooled you and next time will be even more demanding. Very sure that he tried to fool him in the past as well and because OP is kind, he let him do it just to keep the friendship alive. These are opportunistic people who will take advantage of others in the name of friendship :/

[Pandu Geddon]

Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

Of course, I have bet based on a friend's suggestion. But when I did it, I was definitely with friends and watching the match of that bet. They didn't force me to bet more. In fact, when they also wanted to make it more exciting, some of them added money to make the bet bigger. The winnings were usually spent on paying for drinks and food at that time. It wasn't something forced, but that's how we had fun.

[Achalugo BTC]

For skill-based games, winning is not only based on luck and chance; skill and prediction also have their own advantages. They give to the gambler; you don't just put your entire faith in the unknown. The effort you put to predict helps in increasing the chance of winning instead of just depending on luck alone to do the job. Even with skill, the loss can be higher than the winning, but that still doesn't mean predictions don't have a say.

Well!that's right, a mixture of luck and strategy does work in skill-based games and understanding the part that its doesn't guaranteed win is very helpful. But, I don't think one's effort or skill have a say in gambling, because they are likely to endanger themselves into the act of becoming addicted due to the mindset that their predictions are true, which they are very confident about and if eventually they win, it is said to be luck and not skill, because its never a easy thing to outsmart gambling system. (in my own opinion though). Nevertheless, its better to gamble rightly.

[NurseHub]

‎It's a fun time between you and your friend and I like the fact you did not allow his action to ruin it. It's good you gave him what you feel is okay. The fact that you bet on his prediction doesn't mean there was a guarantee for winning, it was luck that still played out no matter how much he trusted his club. Being entitled isn't fair because if you had lost the game, I'm sure he wouldn't have refunded you either. Except it was a 50/50 game, meaning if you win, he gets a demanded amount and if you lose, he gives you the same amount but in a situation where by there wasn't any agreement, giving him some cash is an act of you being grateful.

[HONDACD125]

You shouldn't have made the bet when he was forcing you in the first place, or you should have placed a small bet, and if he would argue, you could tell him he can make a larger bet himself if he's so confident about his suggestion or prediction, why does he need to ask you, or even worse, force you to make a larger bet only because he thinks the team is going to win? You should have asked him, if you make a large bet, and the outcome is a loss, would he pay half the money you guys have staked on that bet? That would have been enough to end this matter even before it started, but you played along, so you obviously had to compensate him after all that.

This never happened to me, because no matter how close I'm to some people, I don't let them have so much influence on me and my decisions, especially when it comes to financial decisions, because I know what's right and what's wrong for me, and I know how much money I should spend or use on specific things and I don't need anyone else to tell me how I should do it, and then make them a shareholder or a profit-partner after I use my money and manage to make some money on top of that.

[Orpichukwu]

That is right as they will not see failing is part of the success itself. They see if fails comes to others is a mistake and will blame why others makes that mistakes. Maybe giving them money after winning is not be a problem but next time, you should not listen him about the prediction so you don't have to gives him the money if you win. He is bad example of friend who just want to take his part after winning but that is common as people wants to be called as "an important" person that gives prediction.

Some of these entitled people don't feel ashamed to even accept error from their own end; they don't blame it on the person who stakes, but instead they blame it on the club, and sometimes they put it on luck and faith, but one thing they will never do is refund you part of the money which was lost, but they will always be ready to open their hand and demand tips each time the one they predicted works as it was said. They don't even care about all other losses which the person should be using the winnings to compensate themselves with. The best thing for the OP is to avoid taking games from the friend next time.

[rachael9385]

That is actually the problem of betting on others bettors suggestion because they will definitely claim that they contributed to get the winning that is why I don't like betting on someone suggestion. But the truth is that people are just different in reasoning because not everybody would have this mentality at all because gambling is just a way to try luck and have fun with friends and not something that would bring problems with friends at all because there are many people who don't like gambling so it's better to have good understanding and not by argument.

I would always call that an entitlement mentality because he forcefully demanded for what he would have probably gotten without even asking but he felt the need to mention it. I bet with people's suggestions and whenever I win I don't normally deal with such problems. He is too desperate and overly entitled. Just like you said, people are different in reasoning, what he did was a display of immaturity.

[tread93]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

You gotta go into these bets taking all emotion aside. Its the worst if someone you know has talked you into the bet and it loses. That has the potential to ruin a relationship if the bet was large enough. Hopefully it works out for some people but I prefer to stick with my own picks

[Hispo]

Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

Of course, I have bet based on a friend's suggestion. But when I did it, I was definitely with friends and watching the match of that bet. They didn't force me to bet more. In fact, when they also wanted to make it more exciting, some of them added money to make the bet bigger. The winnings were usually spent on paying for drinks and food at that time. It wasn't something forced, but that's how we had fun.

That is a healthy enough way to bet on others suggestions. But problems start to appear when you are not longer taking others suggestions for the sake of fun and paying for drinks and food for that night, but rather seeking to multiply your wealth in the shortest period of time possible, allowing greed to take over your common sense.
In my opinion, in those cases when there is no longer about fun but greed, It can never end up okey when comes to taking other's suggestions for betting, if one wins then we will continue to ask for information to keep up winning, until we start to lose money and we blame it all to our friend or family member.

[ZeroVinsonN]

People only ever want to take credit for something when it's a success, once you are failing they all distance themselves from you like you are a plague, you giving your friend that money was your choice, there absolutely nothing he would have done if you hadn't given him anything, I understand appreciating someone for helping you win something but that feeling of being entitled to a share of that winning is what will make me not give anything to him if I was in your place, nothing stopped him from placing a bet himself since he was so sure that thing ms were going to play out the way he predicted.

That is right as they will not see failing is part of the success itself. They see if fails comes to others is a mistake and will blame why others makes that mistakes. Maybe giving them money after winning is not be a problem but next time, you should not listen him about the prediction so you don't have to gives him the money if you win. He is bad example of friend who just want to take his part after winning but that is common as people wants to be called as "an important" person that gives prediction.

I personally do not see the value in keeping such a friend because they obviously do not want your success, one can argue that they gave you a prediction that played out how they predicted it but the simple truth is that they never trusted that prediction in the first place, it they did then they themselves would have also bet on that prediction but they didn't, because that has not trust in their own prediction but we're all in to convince you that the prediction was a sure one, if that game had been lost they would have probably mocked OP.

[SPIDERMAN008]

Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

Of course, I have bet based on a friend's suggestion. But when I did it, I was definitely with friends and watching the match of that bet. They didn't force me to bet more. In fact, when they also wanted to make it more exciting, some of them added money to make the bet bigger. The winnings were usually spent on paying for drinks and food at that time. It wasn't something forced, but that's how we had fun.

Well, this is really a enjoying thing for you and your friends. In this way, if all the friends bet together, it will be much more enjoyable when win. Even if they lose, they don't feel so bad mentally. Because here no one forced them to bet, they themselves contributed. As a result, the match became more exciting. And this is also an example of gambling being played for entertainment purposes.

[Sandra_hakeem]

‎I think it's just some sort of gambling culture to tip a friend who gave you betting tips to a winning ticket. its a good way to maintain friendship but it's not something to be entitled about as it's not supposed to be forced; it!should be done willingly. I also think you should have done it even without him asking, but I don't know the nature of your friendship so I can't judge.

‎And yes, I have received tips from friends on several occasions, and have also given out when it boom. I think your culture has a little to me do with this; if you were all taught to share the little to another who has non, this wouldn't even be a topic to discuss huh.

[DrBeer]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

Ask him this: if you lose, the next time you place a bet based on his recommendation, will he be just as honest with you and compensate you for part of the loss caused by his less-than-accurate advice?
If his answer is “no,” that gives you every right not to share your next winnings from his advice, which was obtained with your money, not his. That would be absolutely fair.

There’s an old saying: “Victories always have many fathers, but only losses are always fatherless orphans”
            

[Accardo]

I would always call that an entitlement mentality because he forcefully demanded for what he would have probably gotten without even asking but he felt the need to mention it. I bet with people's suggestions and whenever I win I don't normally deal with such problems. He is too desperate and overly entitled. Just like you said, people are different in reasoning, what he did was a display of immaturity.

Then he's thought about so much on gaming and thinks he's making a positive prediction that deserves to be paid for, but from the look of it, the friend is close to addictions, being this entitled means a wrong habit and could lead to a beef between the two bettors, looking at how the suggestor followed up Op for his share of the money.