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March 31, 2026, 06:58:16 PM
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Well, morality is not always the same, it depends on the context. Because even though we might say we would always be moral, in times of stress people change their priorities. When people are in trouble, they will prioritise survival, so morality will be put aside, it is not a surprise,  So if people change, it is not fair to say they are all bad. And poor is more moral, I think it is an emotional discussion. Because in life, good and bad are everywhere.

People are raised differently, they have their own moral standard and they have their own character.  People, even with all the wealth in hand still do bad thing.  It does not need to have war or a crisis for them to do disgusting things.  We can just look at the government officials.  These people are well fed, have good standard of living but still get into corruption.

During a crisis, people change, yes, but not all turn to being bad.  Others, even if they have the strong will to survive, will always choose to act morally, but once a moral standard has been established, it will not change, no matter what happens.
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March 31, 2026, 07:46:38 PM
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Well, morality is not always the same, it depends on the context. Because even though we might say we would always be moral, in times of stress people change their priorities. When people are in trouble, they will prioritise survival, so morality will be put aside, it is not a surprise,  So if people change, it is not fair to say they are all bad. And poor is more moral, I think it is an emotional discussion. Because in life, good and bad are everywhere.

People are raised differently, they have their own moral standard and they have their own character.  People, even with all the wealth in hand still do bad thing.  It does not need to have war or a crisis for them to do disgusting things.  We can just look at the government officials.  These people are well fed, have good standard of living but still get into corruption.

During a crisis, people change, yes, but not all turn to being bad.  Others, even if they have the strong will to survive, will always choose to act morally, but once a moral standard has been established, it will not change, no matter what happens.
If we're talking about government corruption that's a different context, they are motivated by greed or need money to pay for expensive political campaigns, if we're talking about morals in this case the context will be a little different, while in the case of a crisis it will show the way of survival that urgently has to do anything to be able to eat, It's okay to say that people with high morals will live their lives as best they can despite the hunger of such people, but we also need to see if there are people who will commit criminal acts in times of crisis because of the urgency of the situation, who usually don't steal, they will steal food when there is nothing to eat in a good way.

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March 31, 2026, 09:03:47 PM
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People are raised differently, they have their own moral standard and they have their own character.  People, even with all the wealth in hand still do bad thing.  It does not need to have war or a crisis for them to do disgusting things.  We can just look at the government officials.  These people are well fed, have good standard of living but still get into corruption.

During a crisis, people change, yes, but not all turn to being bad.  Others, even if they have the strong will to survive, will always choose to act morally, but once a moral standard has been established, it will not change, no matter what happens.
That is the fact when it comes to life the background upon which a person grow up matters , there are people who grow up in an environment were there is nothing like morality so these sets of people are not guided by any moral right, they can do anything. To this sets of people it's not about the money they can steal even when they have billions in their account. There are also those who grow up in a morally sound environment that no matter the situation that they find themselves they will not compromise themselves.


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March 31, 2026, 11:07:21 PM
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Well, the whole thing started a long time ago ever since economic crisis started, economic crisis also depends in most countries because they’re other worst situations different countries face especially underdeveloped countries. The rate of crypto scam keeps increasing as a result of people wanting money, people mindset change everyday focusing on how to face the crises so they can afford comfortable lifestyle for their family.
Economic crisis is not an excuse for people to start doing all kinds of bad stuff though, no one can really help it when obviously there’s no option but, the poor system really shaped people in a good way to work and stay productive. Doing all kinds of bad stuffs only make the economy worst, definitely agree with op point because the high rate of scam, robbery, killing for wealth, power, etc, keeps increasing obviously they’re moved by material things not mainly about poor economy.

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April 01, 2026, 10:50:26 PM
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Consciously today in good conditions that it is better to survive with good norms upholding morals, but sometimes we have to look at the bad side that when the crisis comes hit and makes a person forced to do things that are beyond morals, there is a condition of compulsion when our condition is very hungry and can not do anything, in fertile land maybe we can still plant or whatever it is like old people used to be in our country Indonesia, But what is the condition if you are in an arid land, there is no food, and see other people eating, maybe if you are alone you will not do it, but if you are in a group you usually do anything to get what you need, I do not condone things like this to happen, I also do not generalize or normalize things like this, but there must be a group or someone who will do it when the crisis is severe enough, and I hope that does not happen to all of us now or in the future.


At the meantime we still not entering extrem crisis with starving which requires us to be on survival mode. What many individual face today are a broken normal condition (structure crisis) which caused moral degradation, many individual forced to compromise values ​​in order to survive within the system. Even though we have idealism against the current, sometimes we must accept normalization of bad value. I am also worried about the conditions in our country, we often hear news about people stealing because of hunger and in fact many people support thieves even though they don't condone their actions. In these phenomena we see that even in our country, morals slowly starting to disappear because system continues to encourage competition, inequality, and economic pressure. I truly worry about safety of our children and the environment we will pass on to them.

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April 01, 2026, 11:08:20 PM
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People are raised differently, they have their own moral standard and they have their own character.  People, even with all the wealth in hand still do bad thing.  It does not need to have war or a crisis for them to do disgusting things.  We can just look at the government officials.  These people are well fed, have good standard of living but still get into corruption.

During a crisis, people change, yes, but not all turn to being bad.  Others, even if they have the strong will to survive, will always choose to act morally, but once a moral standard has been established, it will not change, no matter what happens.
That is the fact when it comes to life the background upon which a person grow up matters , there are people who grow up in an environment were there is nothing like morality so these sets of people are not guided by any moral right, they can do anything. To this sets of people it's not about the money they can steal even when they have billions in their account. There are also those who grow up in a morally sound environment that no matter the situation that they find themselves they will not compromise themselves.

People need to be resilient when they are faced with challenges. Because if not, I don't think they can survive long or their anxiety will surely be affected. And it would be like a challenge especially for those individuals who are used to luxuries of life. But for those who came from poor beginnings, they know what to do.
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April 01, 2026, 11:42:16 PM
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People need to be resilient when they are faced with challenges. Because if not, I don't think they can survive long or their anxiety will surely be affected. And it would be like a challenge especially for those individuals who are used to luxuries of life. But for those who came from poor beginnings, they know what to do.
Being resilient is innate to us and that's why we figure things out when we're already facing it. Just like the crisis that we're experiencing, others did discovered themselves that they're skilled in labor and for as long as it can make them money, they'll do it for them to survive. This is survival to the fittest but we also have to wish all of these leaders to have good morals and concern to the human lives that are used as pawns into this conflict. There's no need to waste any more of their resources including human beings. They should also experience the hardship that a normal citizen is getting through.

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April 02, 2026, 09:31:11 AM
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Definitely economic crisis is the major reason why there are so many criminal activities going on like theft, kidnapping, robbery and cybercrime.
When the economic goes so bad which leads to poverty and unemployment, most citizens will have no choice but to find a means of survival, without minding if it’s legal or not and without also minding the impact or harm it will cause to other people and it environment.

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April 02, 2026, 06:47:18 PM
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Crisis going higher globally if people are hungry and need basic needs many will forget about morals or good behavior.
Shop and store keepers will be expecting more robberies more stealing thats for sure.
Financial crimes or soft fraud or scams including crypto scams nobody cant even investigate because police and law enforcement will be busy with real crimes.
I like where you said that police and law enforcement agency will perform the real crimes and that is what is happening. I saw a video where a fraudster was shaking hands with a police officer who was at a checking point and gave him some bundle amount of money. Imagine if the fraudster was carrying something illegal in the trunk of his car, that's how the police man will just let him go with the crime since he couldn't search the car as a result of the bribery. However, ''when the foundation is faulty, the righteous perish''. The economy is hard on the masses, even those who never thought of committing crimes in their lives are now involving themselves in criminal activities just to make a living. It's really sad honestly because the government have failed.
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April 03, 2026, 01:31:52 AM
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A crisis can lead people to do things they wouldn't normally do, but that can't be an excuse to break the law. I went hungry, and that didn't make me a thief; I know that not all people are the same, but I believe that character shouldn't change in the face of adversity.

For example, stealing food because you are hungry does not absolve you of the crime committed (even if it is "justifiable"). It is complex and may have a different interpretation by the judge, but it remains wrong in the eyes of the law.

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April 03, 2026, 06:35:01 AM
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People need to be resilient when they are faced with challenges. Because if not, I don't think they can survive long or their anxiety will surely be affected. And it would be like a challenge especially for those individuals who are used to luxuries of life. But for those who came from poor beginnings, they know what to do.
Not everyone has the same mental fortitude everyone has their own level of resilience. Some people are naturally strong when facing challenges or obstacles. Others give up easily when confronted with life’s challenges they might even choose to avoid them because that’s the best option for those with weaker mental resilience.

Others, however, possess a strong mindset when facing challenges. In fact, it is possible to train your mind to become stronger as long as you have a strong determination. Take me, for example initially I didn’t have a very strong mindset when I entered the workforce but because I’ve gotten used to it this has made me mentally stronger I’m even more confident when making decisions that are best for me, even if they aren’t ideal for others.
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April 03, 2026, 03:55:23 PM
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Before the global recession, there's already an uproar and protest within the American citizens. Donald Trump has indeed taken their debt upwards and showed the world how he has no respect for sovereignty, human rights and international law. Above all, he has no atom of respect for his Nato allies as he publicity disrespect them. Even the rich are feeling the heat and repercussions of the unnecessary war with iran. The Allies are majorly affected because Putin has decided to not sell oil to Europe.
To be fair, even republicans are not really that much happy with him these days. There was this soldier or whatever not sure who that passed away and he could have said absolutely nothing, I mean nobody expected him to say a good word about him, but he could have said nothing, but he said something like good riddance after a dead guy, republicans were absolutely shocked and disgusted by it.

And of course the Iran war is seen as "Israel's war that USA was dragged into" by the republicans as well. While there are of course still some who like Trump, that number is growing very very small, so much small that if we had an election this coming Sunday, even Kamala would have won against Trump, I am sure even Bernie would win, that's how much people are not standing behind Trump anymore.
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April 03, 2026, 05:13:23 PM
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Logically, this is a correct approach, but in practice, moral actions do not operate on such a simple plane. For example, when poverty increases in society, the concept of social solidarity can strengthen, or neighborly relations can improve...

When we look at history, we see that crime rates have risen significantly during periods of weak authority. Economic problems can also be a cause for rising crime rates, but the root problem emerges from a lack of authority...

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April 03, 2026, 05:15:14 PM
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We all act civilized because we live in civilized societies where there is law and order, everybody knows the consequences of disorderliness and there is law enforcement to deal with offenders. But where there is chaos and war and there is no law and order people will take laws into their hands and you will see their inner animosity. When it's about survival it will get to a level of everyman for himself to stay alive and the gentleman that you know can turn hostile to get what he wants to stay alive. There will not be rich and poor it will only be the physically strong and the weak meaning survival of the fittest, then people won't be better than animals in the jungle. I hope that things wouldn't get that bad in any country but politically countries with bad leaders are already treating their citizens like modern day slaves.

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April 03, 2026, 06:16:52 PM
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If crisis hits definately the stronger ones survive those who looking morals or try to behave good wount last long if anyone own company they might reduce the spendings try to find tax loop holes and will lower the wages, and those who got no job or options will do absoloutely everything.

I would't want to be times like this some store shop worker or keeper or security it could be one of the most dangerous job.

You are talking about the worst-case scenario if this crisis continues, which is not a remote possibility. We can all blame the government if chaos happens because they should have contingency plans for this kind of scenario.

Like talking to other oil suppliers to ensure a continuous supply, or holding a summit to discuss how to solve the crisis, with all stakeholders from every industry participating.

No government wants this to happen; it should earn people's trust, and it will not happen if it cannot address the situation.

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April 03, 2026, 06:29:40 PM
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A crisis can lead people to do things they wouldn't normally do, but that can't be an excuse to break the law. I went hungry, and that didn't make me a thief; I know that not all people are the same, but I believe that character shouldn't change in the face of adversity.

For example, stealing food because you are hungry does not absolve you of the crime committed (even if it is "justifiable"). It is complex and may have a different interpretation by the judge, but it remains wrong in the eyes of the law.
Legally, things outside of morals will definitely be wrong, let alone doing criminal things like stealing, in essence we must still try not to do things outside of morals and it must be held firmly as the basis of our personality is very good and knows which one is good and bad, you are great at being able to withstand it, the crisis has been faced and you are living better now.
The world is cruel when it comes to crises that will make a person forced to do bad things but if we try our best to stay good then nature will bless us and save us, this also actually depends on how big the crisis is.
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April 03, 2026, 06:45:45 PM
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In COVID lockdowns, everyone was devastated, people doing normal labor jobs were also affected but those living in rural areas  had some advantage  because people were following safety protocols and doing the jobs if someone could afford them to pay.

Because things were tight for employees and employers, all of them compromising, some were genuinely living together by helping each other out, small communities helped each other because everyone knew, how things were.

I think the current economic crisis we are about to face won't be bigger than the last one, we will face it if not easily, then with some bravery and cutting expenses and by saving more. Time will pass but sometimes I think, when will all of this stop!

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April 03, 2026, 07:53:25 PM
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When money becomes tight morals do not evaporate. Instead of implementing the general morality, people simply cease and implement the personal morality and these two are quite different things. You no longer ask yourself is this right but rather is it right to the people i am serving.

I think "western fragility" mistakes comfort with capacity. Individuals who have had comfortable lives are not weaker. They are working on assumptions which have not been tested yet. And when those assumptions fail, yeah the meltdown is loud. But so what. Grief is dramatic when it is fresh.

The fact that security workers and shop staff are in danger - already true. Already happening. We simply do not refer to it as crisis yet since certain indexes remain green. The most common mistake is equating financial indexes with lived experience which is one of the great intellectual failures of contemporary political thought.

The thought there is that strength is personal and that is simply incorrect. In the past communities that played as a team due to scarcity performed better than individual players at all times. Crisis does not put people in strong and weak categories. It sorts them into connected and isolated. Those are not similar.

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April 03, 2026, 09:09:36 PM
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Crisis going higher globally if people are hungry and need basic needs many will forget about morals or good behavior.
Shop and store keepers will be expecting more robberies more stealing thats for sure.
Financial crimes or soft fraud or scams including crypto scams nobody cant even investigate because police and law enforcement will be busy with real crimes.
Off course we will see more and more underground economy growing when goverment will get less and less tax funds and all the tax burden will be on last honest workers and tax payers.



when things get really hard and people are struggling to survive, some people may start ignoring morals just to meet their basic needs. Hunger and pressure can push people into doing things they normally wouldn’t do.

That’s why during tough economic times, you might see more crime, scams and people trying to survive by any means possible. But it doesn’t mean everyone will lose their values, some people will still try to do the right thing no matter the situation.

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April 04, 2026, 11:05:17 AM
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In a real crisis, armed security guards are the first to head home to their families. And it’s hard to imagine behaviour any worse than what’s already the norm. You’re probably thinking of a scenario where people are truly fighting for their survival? Well, in that case, politeness is unlikely to be a priority.
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