[SCAM] KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino - Clone Network

[albon]

How many of us had even heard about the clone network before you posted about them? Now many members are aware they should avoid those websites. Things have definitely happened after your investigation. MetaMask would only have taken action if they were certain that the websites involved were conducting in nefarious activity.

Thats True, man. Thanks for the support.

I did my best to expose what’s going on here, just trying to warn others before they get scammed.. They never even tried to look legitimate.

Anyone ignoring the warning signs around these cloned platforms is clearly putting themselves at high risks. The easiest thing for them is to pull an exit scam and simply move their scheme to another domain.

You should not waste your time engaging with trolls. You have no reason to engage with any member (especially one that has multiple negative tags) to explain anything. You should add him to your ignore list.

I completely agree with you.. In fact, my reply #36 was the last response I gave him. Most of his posts were just personal attacks and trolling. it was just pointless drama.. It’s clear he’s only here to derail the thread, so I’ve ignored him.

[MuffinMaster]

There seems to be a similar discussion going on in the LuckyCoin thread. So I've quoted my post from there below.

Now I'm wondering if the term "clone network" has been confused with "White Label service"?  

I'm not a programmer or software auditor, but it seems that everything you mentioned applies to the White Label service these casinos purchase. From what I've read, the same applies not only to LuckyCoin, but also to Kasynoir and wtf.games - so far, I found only these three casinos ANN threads on Bicointalk (besides Betmode which is closed), that have been using White Label service).

LuckyCoin thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5582850.0

Purchased the White Label service from Onchain Technologies Ltd



Kasynoir thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5578364.0

Purchased the White Label service from Sirplay Sudamerica EIRL



WTF.games thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5583489.0

Purchased the White Label service from Unexpected Ltd



At least this is the license number provided by them:

I am a little doubtful about the license you have, did you take another casino license?

Meanwhile, name casino operated by Spinlab Management B.V Group is not registered with anjouangaming.

This website is owned and operated by Spinlab Management B.V Group., registration number: 15651, with its registered address at Hamchako, Mutsamudu, The Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comores. This website is licensed and regulated by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros, and operates under License No. ALSI-042402014-FI4

.... is owned and operated by Unexpected Ltd., registration number 15651, registered address Hamchako, Mustamudu, Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Contact us at support@Betvidi.com. Betvidi.com is licensed and regulated by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros and operates under License No. ALSI-042402014-Fl4. Betvidi.com has passed all regulatory compliance and is legally authorized to conduct gaming operations for any and all games of chance and wagering.

Lest there be any confusion, a license is important for a casino to look legitimate.

wtf.games operates under the SpinLab white-label infrastructure, which includes the Anjouan master license No. ALSI-042402014-FI4. This is a master license model — multiple independent casino operators can run under the same master license holder. This is standard practice in the iGaming industry, the same way many casinos operate under shared MGA or Curaçao master licenses.
So yes — the same license number will appear across multiple SpinLab-powered properties. That is not a red flag. That is how white-label licensing works.
The license is real, issued by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, and wtf.games operates fully within that regulatory framework. We understand license transparency matters in this space — happy to answer any further questions.

In my opinion, these casinos purchase the service just like any other casino. I assume that in most cases, the casino owner isn't the programmer who will write the casino code, so they buy it, as in this case. The difference is that it's cheaper here because the software, license, and payment gateways are shared among multiple customers.

We don't know the intentions of these casino owners. The same applies to those who write the casino code themselves, those who purchase an individual license, or those who purchase a shared license. Any of them can end up as an exit scam.

Regarding the shared bankroll, casinos don't disclose how much money they have. In this case, at least we can see that these funds are there. And they can disappear from any casino at any time, so if we don't know the owner's intentions, the risk is the same.

Moreover, White Label service providers, should be audited, so they must meet security standards.

Or maybe I am wrong and all these casinos are scams?

[albon]

There seems to be a similar discussion going on in the LuckyCoin thread. So I've quoted my post from there below.

Now I'm wondering if the term "clone network" has been confused with "White Label service"?  


Or maybe I am wrong and all these casinos are scams?

I think from your comment here and in the other thread, it seems that you have limited and rather superficial knowledge about white label systems and you are treating what you have read as a complete explanation of the situation..

Frankly, the points raised here are not about the concept of white label itself. I recommend that you take a closer look at the OP and the technical and operational points presented, as they do not fully align with a standard implementation of a white-label model.

[MuffinMaster]

There seems to be a similar discussion going on in the LuckyCoin thread. So I've quoted my post from there below.

Now I'm wondering if the term "clone network" has been confused with "White Label service"?  


Or maybe I am wrong and all these casinos are scams?

I think from your comment here and in the other thread, it seems that you have limited and rather superficial knowledge about white label systems and you are treating what you have read as a complete explanation of the situation..

Frankly, the points raised here are not about the concept of white label itself. I recommend that you take a closer look at the OP and the technical and operational points presented, as they do not fully align with a standard implementation of a white-label model.

Since you suggest that I have limited knowledge about the White Label Model, I decided to educate myself and maybe some other users.   I hope you don't mind that I used AI:

"What is the White Label Model for Online Casinos?

The White Label model in the online casino industry is a business solution where an entrepreneur rents a complete, ready-to-use gambling platform from a third-party provider (the White Label Provider). The buyer receives a fully functional product and only needs to apply their own branding, logo, and graphic design to it.

The provider delivers the entire technical, legal, and operational infrastructure. The operator's sole focus is marketing and acquiring new players.


Key Features of the White Label Model:

This model stands out due to several crucial elements that make it highly popular in the iGaming market:

Using the provider’s license: Obtaining an independent gambling license is extremely expensive, time-consuming, and legally complex. In a White Label model, the casino operates under the provider’s sub-license (e.g., from jurisdictions like Malta, Curaçao, or Gibraltar), allowing for a legal launch in just a few weeks.

Ready-made software and game portfolio: The operator does not need to sign individual contracts with game studios (like NetEnt, Microgaming, or Evolution). The platform already includes an integrated catalog of hundreds or thousands of slots and table games.

Integrated payment systems: The provider supplies a ready-to-use financial infrastructure, including payment gateways that handle credit cards, e-wallets, and often cryptocurrencies.

Technical support and operations (B2B/B2C): The software provider is usually responsible for servers, data security, anti-fraud systems, and the first line of customer support for players."

In my opinion, what is described here, and in particular what you wrote earlier about servers, payment gateways and the backend, is included in the White Label Model.


Edited:

Albon, despite the fact that I informed in the post that I used AI and inserted it as a quote, just added a neutral tag in my trust:



Is this really not addressed to the technical points being discussed?

P.S. Albon, it doesn't "appear" AI-assisted. I clearly stated that in my post.