Did you notice this while trading

[Peanutswar]

If you are losing, you will not close the position but you will leave it opened, which can cause asset liquidation or stop loss market order to be filled.

Upon seeing this its just concludes me that this kind of action is not yet prepared to lose money or not having a good risk management if you see already that the trade is against with your perspective you must need to consider to make a cut losses you can just make another trade if you will see another market opportunity you dont need to make yourself stress with the current position at the market.
With that kind of action taking small profit with the position is just normal if you think you are enough with that but at the first place you made an analysis and if you are confident with that you will not close immediately your position.

[Hamza2424]

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I still always think that low leverage trading is very important. Because if the market is failing you, at least your mind is still at peace.

Bro, whoever has not noticed this in trading is lying, they have not spent time in trading haha because a few trades are enough to teach this to everyone.

Do you have any solution now? How can we save our profit in these situations? Well bro, the rule is simple, don't be greedy. It is hard to even understand how it feels to be non-greedy. Like in a situation where we are making profit but we book quickly, later the prices pump even more, and you could have made an even bigger profit if you had not sold.

But now you regret, if you regret then you are greedy, you should be thankful in the first place, then later you should be finding more opportunities.

[coinlary]

What you just described is what trully separate a demo and a live account. If you're observant, you will notice you don't  worry about closing trades until it hit your SL  when you're on a demo account but  things changes drastically when you're on a live account .

The answer  is simple, because it involves real money, emotion kicks in making you to doubt your analysis  and could eventually lead to early exits.

You can mange this by calculating both your loss, and the likely profit you could make from a trade before placing it. Set what you can alway afford on a trade plce the orders and close your device until you get that notification. What you should only put on your mind is the new balance if it eventually turn a loss,it  shift your attention from the profit and won't  really give you headaches when it trully end up as loss.

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I don't  support trading of Bitcoin  btw  . HOLD and you won't really have to worry about it

[Alphakilo]

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I still always think that low leverage trading is very important. Because if the market is failing you, at least your mind is still at peace.

Bro, whoever has not noticed this in trading is lying, they have not spent time in trading haha because a few trades are enough to teach this to everyone.

Do you have any solution now? How can we save our profit in these situations? Well bro, the rule is simple, don't be greedy. It is hard to even understand how it feels to be non-greedy. Like in a situation where we are making profit but we book quickly, later the prices pump even more, and you could have made an even bigger profit if you had not sold.

But now you regret, if you regret then you are greedy, you should be thankful in the first place, then later you should be finding more opportunities.

This sums up the expectations that make one contented and in emotional control, which is a huge component of risk management in play.
If I can double my wins, I call that a lucky day and don't bother about the outcome of how it could have been, simply because the market price at the time suddenly pumps or still moves in our favor.
When one gets greedy and decides to jump back in, that's often times than not, the trap that makes one lose more and at fewer times it could be a good risk because a triple win profit that is even replicated a fourth time because of the price pump,is indeed a very lucky day.

[Ndabagi01]

This type of state that one feels is actually a thing of emotion, every trader at some point feels this and even the profitable traders today have also gone pass through this phase. This happens often when you’re not ready to lose the whole money to the market, money that can’t be risk into the market to liquidate you. That’s why such feelings come to mind when you’re trading with such money.

If you’ve used a money you can afford to lose, then your emotions won’t come to play like that, but rather you’ll either wait patiently for the market to hit SL or TP. One thing about trading is that if you’re looking to build your capital to trade, don’t hesitate to take small profits from your trade and don’t feel regret if the market could have given you more wins. No one has ever loss from taking profit before.

[vanesha]

I pay attention, but I also have my share of carelessness. No matter how good our analysis is, if we can't control our rationality in trading, what happened to you could happen to anyone. This is why emotional management in trading is crucial to avoid self-harm. Some people, even myself, prefer to trade in a relaxed manner rather than take significant risks.

[Gozie51]

It is natural and normal to feel that way. The problem is the emotion and fear of losing and that is why you exit a supposed profitable market and after the day trade that you visit it you get a misfeeling and kind of regret for not leaving the profiting trade to role on. So it is emotion and lack of control.

It is caused by the use of high leverage which is most related to traders having greediness while trading. Using small money or using low leverage may not even let you watch the market at all like screen trading and if thing like this happened and the person still think like that, I will say it is nothing. If the person is using high leverage, the person is gambling and anything can happen.

I understand you on this too but I want to say that using high leverage is also not gambling but what it means is that the person is taking a lot of risk that may not make his account to stand the fluctuating effect of the price. Before entering a trade order, that trader is suppose to have analyzed his indicators to see the direction he wants to follow, so it is not gambling as we believe that trading is different from gambling. The point is the high leverage expose his account.more than it would have been if he had taken a considerable risk.

[slaman29]

OP, I guess this follows on from your thread about why stop loss is bad. Which is another reason you experience what you do > if you're spending your time on the terminal watching trades instead of allowing limits and stops to go their own natural way, then you're not really doing it the right way.

Believing that charts and markets move because of your trade is a whole new level. I get it if you're a big player, maybe the platform wants you to lose... but surely you can't think it all happens on an individual level

Kinda weird for you to talk about peace of mind and then advice against stop loss. You're getting weirder and weirder mate.

Your post is absolutely nonsense if you are referring to me, a friend of my talked about this and I noticed it has happened to me before and I think of posting it on this forum as one of the ways some traders are doing, but you completely only referring to me. That is very bad of you.

If you still do not understand the kind of trading that I said stop loss is not necessary than it is used by greedy traders with low amount of money but making them lose, then you have to forget about it. Most traders posting here are losing but they always say something about stop lose but they do not learn about patience trading. This does not change the fact that almost all traders are losing, and most of them will always say use stop loss. Another thing is that most of you people say you are trading but it is actually lies.

Yes of course I'm referring to you, and finally you replied to me when I was trying to discuss that post on your other post. I don't know why you keep opening these threads and yet when actual people want to discuss you ignore and open another thread. I hereby quote you from your thread.

You know that I am one of the traders on this forum that have always gone against the use of stop loss,
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I have noticed that most of you people have gone against me anytime I say stop loss is for greedy traders.

This says nothing about your friend, this was your new thread where you posted directly that YOU said you are always going against stop loss.

If you meant it differently then you have to specify and say it differently, and not get so upset and personal, I just found it weird you're posting threads so often but with conflicting advice. I'm happy to discuss and argue, I've done so with plenty of traders, now I'm 'retired' but still enjoy  sparring.

If you feel upset easily, then maybe take some of the words people like me say, and don't get offended so easily? I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, I was genuinely confused by the way you post daily seemingly conflicting things. We were signature buddies at one point, we're friends surely!

[Oshosondy]

Yes of course I'm referring to you, and finally you replied to me when I was trying to discuss that post on your other post. I don't know why you keep opening these threads and yet when actual people want to discuss you ignore and open another thread. I hereby quote you from your thread.

There have been people that are commenting good on my thread and no issue among us. If you have nothing good to post, just do not post. You do not have to post referring me to be losing while trading when you actually do not know if I am losing or not losing and I did not post that I am losing while trading.

This says nothing about your friend, this was your new thread where you posted directly that YOU said you are always going against stop loss.

I do not think you are actually reading what I am posting, I always posted the reason why I go against stop loss. Do not just post to fill your weekly post. If you do not understand the reason after all that I have posted, you are only just not know what I have been posting but you just fast to comment. I hope you are not one of the 85% of traders that will say stop loss is good but money with high leverage and keep losing. 85% of days traders or more are losing. It is very bad you do not understand me at all despite the simple English that I am using.

I do not say you should not against me, people against me but we have a good discussions but no need to refer to me that I am losing when I am not referring to myself that i am losing.

[vs2014]

The more mistakes you make in a task the better experience you will get so we always say to stop trading for a while after a loss. Then discuss your mistakes thoroughly and try to correct them properly. I am not satisfied with the profits I make from my trading which leads to over trading which results in huge losses. When trading consistently it is important to know when to stop because by controlling our emotions, we can avoid huge losses. With my experience if I keep losing money I will understand where I made a big mistake so I will have to stop trading and practice on that. I have to be very careful when increasing leverage because an experienced trader can play with leverage at any time.

[TheUltraElite]

Compare it with crash game aviator, waiting too long will end up bust so we have time frame that is unknown and can bust at any time so some people are really in a hurry to take their profits even if it is small and at loss, is different story, we don't really want to close the trade with lose so we just hope the price will recover that is why there is a wait.

Similar thing, we are hoping for a even higher spot to sell, in doing so we are risking our current unrealized profit.

I think such risks are not bad to take but one should book some of the profit before taking these risks. Crash games will crash down at one point no matter what happens but at least in trading you will have capital at hand to continue trading.

Busting anytime will at least not happen in spot trading.

[batang_bitcoin]

That's the same with holding, there were times that we've sold quite early but we're happy with the profit as we hold. And not that long, the market thrives and continue to move upwards and that's the time we think that we should have waited a bit and held longer. But I have already something against that thought. Because if we keep thinking of that, we'll have hard time to move and that's why just be happy and grateful for any profit that we make. Instead of feeling the regret, think of it that it's better to have that little profit than little loss.

[Strongkored]

Not once or twice but almost always.

If you are losing, you will not close the position but you will leave it opened, which can cause asset liquidation or stop loss market order to be filled.

But if you are making profit or the loss turn to profit, you will close the position with little profit. But later you will say why would you have not waited as the market continued in your position direction to gain more instead.

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I know how difficult it is to accept small profits and big losses because we think we made a mistake in closing a position.
However, over time traders will be able to understand that it is impossible to close a position at the perfect time, meaning the maximum profit gained and the loss is very small.
Because we will not be able to analyze exactly which is up and which is down, traders just predict.

[Findingnemo]

Compare it with crash game aviator, waiting too long will end up bust so we have time frame that is unknown and can bust at any time so some people are really in a hurry to take their profits even if it is small and at loss, is different story, we don't really want to close the trade with lose so we just hope the price will recover that is why there is a wait.

Similar thing, we are hoping for a even higher spot to sell, in doing so we are risking our current unrealized profit.

I think such risks are not bad to take but one should book some of the profit before taking these risks. Crash games will crash down at one point no matter what happens but at least in trading you will have capital at hand to continue trading.

Busting anytime will at least not happen in spot trading.

With bitcoin it doesn't happen but shitcoins can go from 100 to zero in matter of minutes and most even don't even have time to react because of the bot scalps everything so the trust on the coin is also matters and I can just keep the trade open indefinitely until I make profit even if the price crashes because I am only dealing with bitcoin but majority who claim themselves as traders deal with shitcoins more than anything.

[slaman29]

Yes of course I'm referring to you, and finally you replied to me when I was trying to discuss that post on your other post. I don't know why you keep opening these threads and yet when actual people want to discuss you ignore and open another thread. I hereby quote you from your thread.

There have been people that are commenting good on my thread and no issue among us. If you have nothing good to post, just do not post. You do not have to post referring me to be losing while trading when you actually do not know if I am losing or not losing and I did not post that I am losing while trading.

This says nothing about your friend, this was your new thread where you posted directly that YOU said you are always going against stop loss.

I do not think you are actually reading what I am posting, I always posted the reason why I go against stop loss. Do not just post to fill your weekly post. If you do not understand the reason after all that I have posted, you are only just not know what I have been posting but you just fast to comment. I hope you are not one of the 85% of traders that will say stop loss is good but money with high leverage and keep losing. 85% of days traders or more are losing. It is very bad you do not understand me at all despite the simple English that I am using.

I do not say you should not against me, people against me but we have a good discussions but no need to refer to me that I am losing when I am not referring to myself that i am losing.

Well brother, if you only want to discuss things with people who agree with you, and you actually think I'm posting to fill my weekly post, you need to take a look at yourself and myself. I feel sad that we were together and should be able to discuss things like adults, but you are taking everything personally, and mistakenly.

BTW, my past 3 weeks I posted *without* a signature campaign, so you should feel quite proud that I actually posted in your discussions free of charge. Thanks for your comment, see how I'm not mad at you for that?

But let people not say that I can be a bigger guy and apologize to you (again) and stop posting in your discussion threads. I hope you enjoy the quality of people who do.

[bangjoe]

Not once or twice but almost always.

If you are losing, you will not close the position but you will leave it opened, which can cause asset liquidation or stop loss market order to be filled.

But if you are making profit or the loss turn to profit, you will close the position with little profit. But later you will say why would you have not waited as the market continued in your position direction to gain more instead.

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I still always think that low leverage trading is very important. Because if the market is failing you, at least your mind is still at peace.

I do this too, sometimes it does feel strange, even some other traders when not setting a stop lose they will leave the position, and continue to hold it, and when it turns profitable they quickly take profits.
My stop loss calculation is already a measure of loss that I can bear so it doesn't matter even if it is met and for profit I set TP for my trading to continue, but before that I pay attention to the movement first whether it will exceed the target that I calculated or not even though it is sometimes not monitored properly, because if it exceeds the calculated profit target I will do some TP positions to increase the profit.

[Awaklara]

If you are losing, you will not close the position but you will leave it opened, which can cause asset liquidation or stop loss market order to be filled.

I also feel the same way. It's not despair because we already know that we are at a loss in that trade, so we do not close it. But rather, we hope for some luck to change the direction of the market. Especially if a stop loss has already been set, there is a sense of calm knowing that if we lose, it is still within the limits we have determined ourselves. Although in reality, we still feel disappointed because of the loss.

[Faisal2202]

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I still always think that low leverage trading is very important. Because if the market is failing you, at least your mind is still at peace.

I can't agree more with you. It has happened to me several times but it is normal in trading, in my opinion, because a lot of us don't sell after profit or sell early after recovery or sell at break even, because of the greed and later they regret their actions. That's why we should never be greedy and must follow the trend. Now if we will follow the trend, we have to distinguish our behavior and expecations before from the rest of the market so we won't sway away and lost in huge market.

Because later we will call it manipulations from market makers but it is us who made misakes, we have to learn from our mistakes and that is only possible if we will accept them in the first place.

[bitgolden]

if you only want to discuss things with people who agree with you, and you actually think I'm posting to fill my weekly post, you need to take a look at yourself and myself. I feel sad that we were together and should be able to discuss things like adults, but you are taking everything personally, and mistakenly.

BTW, my past 3 weeks I posted *without* a signature campaign, so you should feel quite proud that I actually posted in your discussions free of charge. Thanks for your comment, see how I'm not mad at you for that?

But let people not say that I can be a bigger guy and apologize to you (again) and stop posting in your discussion threads. I hope you enjoy the quality of people who do.

This forum is a good place where we can definitely disagree with each other. It doesn't have to be a place where it's an eco-chamber, we are not going to share our opinions and the reasons behind it and going to get a lot of people agree with us while having nobody who will disagree with us.

That's not what this forum is for, and it has never been the case. No matter what you share, even if you share something that is true, you are going to get someone who will be against it.

[summonerrk]

Not once or twice but almost always.

If you are losing, you will not close the position but you will leave it opened, which can cause asset liquidation or stop loss market order to be filled.

But if you are making profit or the loss turn to profit, you will close the position with little profit. But later you will say why would you have not waited as the market continued in your position direction to gain more instead.

But what if you try it and the market later against you again. This happened to me.

I still always think that low leverage trading is very important. Because if the market is failing you, at least your mind is still at peace.

Traders often write about short and long positions, but I consider these to be bad ways to trade. This also applies to the use of leverage, which turns reasonable and balanced trading into regular gambling. It is important to trade only on sports and without the use of leverage.
This is the most important truth, and if any trader violates it, they will immediately incur losses. Plus, a trader's first trading position should only account for a small percentage of their total deposit, and never half or a third, so that they can make trading maneuvers if the cryptocurrency they are trading starts to decline.