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[TokenTikas]

Few amounts was recovered while his seized properties are on sale to refund the women...

In the end, it’s good to hear that he finally received his amount and from next time, there should be more careful dealing with people like that so such issues don’t happen again.

Why the hell will you transaction the bitcoin without using mixer they said, I mean the whole comment section was full with this same blame that mixers is the way to scam and escape without getting caught.

Maybe he didn’t really understand how to use a mixer properly and that is why he got caught like that. A mixer is meant to maintain privacy at all times but it should be remembered that it is not the mixer’s fault, because they are not supposed to know what kind of users are coming to use it. Still, it is true that this mixer method has now become one of the safest options for scammers.

[serjent05]

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Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives,

Mixer like any other tools can be use for good and bad things.  Since the nature of service of mixer is to mask or hide the transaction, people who have ill intentions use this to cover their tracks.

but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

 

This is just an assumption, so it is possibly correct or possibly wrong, what matters is that we know that mixers are not Bitcoin, so whatever bad name they attached to mixers, it is not towards Bitcoin and has nothing to do with Bitcoin in criminal activity's sense.

Maybe he didn’t really understand how to use a mixer properly and that is why he got caught like that. A mixer is meant to maintain privacy at all times but it should be remembered that it is not the mixer’s fault, because they are not supposed to know what kind of users are coming to use it. Still, it is true that this mixer method has now become one of the safest options for scammers.

Not ony he don't understand how to use mixer but he also doesn't understand the characteristics of Bitcoin.  This is why the person never uses tools to cover his tracks.

[TokenTikas]

Not ony he don't understand how to use mixer but he also doesn't understand the characteristics of Bitcoin.  This is why the person never uses tools to cover his tracks.

Yes, you are right.

Anyway, it is clear that he didn’t properly understand these things and that is why it was easy to catch him. If he had known well about mixers and also understood how Bitcoin works, maybe he wouldn’t have been caught. But in the end, because he was caught, that woman was able to recover the money that was owed to her.

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

Mixers are doing their job providing privacy to everyone, whoever uses it for another purpose is not mixers fault. Mixers doesn't know if the transaction is coming from a victim or from crowd funding or institutions or whatever. What mixers do is to private the transaction and does it work. Period.

It's also crazy why people accuses the seller of a saw who a thief uses for cutting padlock to steal from a neighbor house. Mixers are not the problem, the user is.

[sunsilk]

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

Can be for either. While it's romanticized with these arrests and makes the context that mixers are bad. They become bad depending on the use.

Think about the knives, it's mainly for cooking right? but if it's used badly by a criminal does it make bad in general? of course no.

Anyway, there are people that can't be right or wrong if it's an argument that no one allows the other to win.

[macson]

Mixers aren't actually designed for criminals, people just make them seem like they are because of their ability to enhance privacy.

But you need to understand that mixers aren't tools that allow you to commit crimes and then get away with it. With more effort, investigators can trace these transactions. So, it's naive to think that Mixers can completely cover your tracks.

And if you talk about something, it's a good idea to include a link to the news, so we can know the details of the story.

[Youngrebel]

Can be for either. While it's romanticized with these arrests and makes the context that mixers are bad. They become bad depending on the use.

Think about the knives, it's mainly for cooking right? but if it's used badly by a criminal does it make bad in general? of course no.

Anyway, there are people that can't be right or wrong if it's an argument that no one allows the other to win.

Tools themselves are usually neutral and it is really how people choose to use them that determines whether they are seen as good or bad. Just like a knife is essential in the kitchen but dangerous in the wrong hands, mixers can serve legitimate privacy purposes but can also be misused. The issue is that when something gets repeatedly linked to illegal activities, it starts to carry that negative reputation, even if that’s not its only use. So the conversation often becomes one sided, with people focusing more on the risks than the legitimate benefits. And you are also right about the nature of these debates and sometimes people come into them already set on their position, not really open to understanding the other side. That is why it ends up feeling like no one is willing to loae the argument also in reality, it is more balanced than that.

[sunsilk]

Can be for either. While it's romanticized with these arrests and makes the context that mixers are bad. They become bad depending on the use.

Think about the knives, it's mainly for cooking right? but if it's used badly by a criminal does it make bad in general? of course no.

Anyway, there are people that can't be right or wrong if it's an argument that no one allows the other to win.

Tools themselves are usually neutral and it is really how people choose to use them that determines whether they are seen as good or bad. Just like a knife is essential in the kitchen but dangerous in the wrong hands, mixers can serve legitimate privacy purposes but can also be misused. The issue is that when something gets repeatedly linked to illegal activities, it starts to carry that negative reputation, even if that’s not its only use. So the conversation often becomes one sided, with people focusing more on the risks than the legitimate benefits. And you are also right about the nature of these debates and sometimes people come into them already set on their position, not really open to understanding the other side. That is why it ends up feeling like no one is willing to loae the argument also in reality, it is more balanced than that.

There has been now a lot of pressure to these services because of how the government tracked the criminals for using them. We see the impact when the regulators and law enforcement steps in.

But that doesn't make it that the service itself is bad, the tool itself is only for the bad things. That's the misleading description that we're getting due to what they have done.

They're ignoring the fact of what the tool is all about and everyone gets to use it even the normal holders/users.

[rat03gopoh]

Why the hell will you transaction the bitcoin without using mixer they said,

But those people also didn't say that the mixer guarantees you from arrest forever. I'm actually not surprised that the mixer is more associated with crime news, only the news you brought up is not.

I'm sure that many of the viewers in the video believe that bitcoin itself is the currency for this crime.

[CryptoYar]

I know that teaching criminals on TikTok is not good thing, yet people talking are out of date since it is now possible to catch people even when they try to hide their paths due to modern AI and so-called trap mixers run by police.
As far as I am concerned, mixers were meant to help single people but today they are mostly used by pig killing and romance fake groups, although there are some large trading places that are fighting this by stopping any dirty coins moving through these services.

[Somegory]

Why the hell will you transaction the bitcoin without using mixer they said, I mean the whole comment section was full with this same blame that mixers is the way to scam and escape without getting caught.

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

There is nothing wrong in using mixers, just because bad people use it doesn't make it illegal, good people that loves to protect their privacy use it.
People use gun isn't? Bad people use it and good people use it too, just because one bad person use it to rob another doesn't make the rest of people with gun criminals, that said.

Let's look at what happened and why he was identified after using a mixer.
Using mixers alone doesn't give you privacy alone, there are many things that might have gone wrong while using a mixer or after using a mixer.

- He probably used a centralized mixers, most of the centralized mixers claimed not to keep logs but you can't say for sure, there is a point failure with your privacy. What if the money was big amount and the government collaborate with the mixer to identify the logs? You can't say for sure what happened behind even though it's unlikely, the point of failure brings doubt.

- The guy must have misused post mixing step, it's possible he might have combined the mixed Bitcoin together and probably joined previously used addresses.

- Some desperate people use centralized exchange for cash, he must have sent the mixed Bitcoin to Bybit or Bitget since they are one of the popular p2p exchange in NGN, that's one trap.

For privacy sake and not to justify where the guy got the money, if he did use coinjoin and spent each mixed coin independently, the chance of identifying the Bitcoin and the user is zero.

We have gun control policies? Do we have mixers control policies? Every rifles or guns in general can be traced back to the seller or the owner using numbers, it's not the same with mixers here.

I will be frank here, just because some good people are using mixers too doesn't mean that mixers are good, it's not a good reason enough to let mixers work freely or else, this your answer is what we will keep getting.

If an attack was successfully carried out in your area or home and after many traces you heard that they used mixers to hide the money they use to sponsor that attack I wonder if you will still say the same.

[moneystery]

There are many people who use knives for cooking, but there are also people who use knives to kill people, but that doesn't necessarily make a knife a criminal tool. Similarly, a mixer is simply a tool that was originally created to increase privacy, but it is misused by criminals to obscure their transactions, and that's why the government views mixers as potentially dangerous if not regulated. If a mixer weren't used for criminal purposes, it would simply be a tool that serves a legitimate purpose, but now it's not.

[Kelward]

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

Mixers are doing their job providing privacy to everyone, whoever uses it for another purpose is not mixers fault. Mixers doesn't know if the transaction is coming from a victim or from crowd funding or institutions or whatever. What mixers do is to private the transaction and does it work. Period.

It's also crazy why people accuses the seller of a saw who a thief uses for cutting padlock to steal from a neighbor house. Mixers are not the problem, the user is.

Anything that was created for good always finds it's way into the hands of criminals who will exploit loopholes to use it for their criminal activities so we cannot blame mixers if anybody uses their services for a criminal purpose. You cannot blame the producer of a kitchen knife because someone took it from the kitchen table and stabs another person so we are all responsible for what we choose to do with our mixed coins. Aside from mixers scammers also use other means to scam their victims although mixers will hide them more than the banking system yet we cannot blame mixers for scammers choosing it. If activities of scammers using mixers becomes increasingly high I suppose that it won't be a good reputation for mixers.

[AmaGold70]

The numbers of criminals that have understood the possibilities of evading capture through the help of mixers is alarming, I don't know about your country, this is about mine.

Few days back a guy was arrested and all of his properties were seized, he scammed a foreigner (woman) in romance scam using a popular figure in my country, he cashed out using Bitcoin and he was traced easily, caught and sentenced.

Few amounts was recovered while his seized properties are on sale to refund the women, what is shocking to me was what people said on tiktok, and almost all of them are from my country since they are using dialect signals and some had their flag up there.

Why the hell will you transaction the bitcoin without using mixer they said, I mean the whole comment section was full with this same blame that mixers is the way to scam and escape without getting caught.

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

Fraudsters are everywhere in the internet, and they have various skills which they use to scam people. Many people are fans to these celebrities that we know, people follow these celebrities online and sometimes interact with them. These scammers knows about it , and thereby by uses these popular celebrities to scam people, they hide their real identity, and makes it look very real as if you are interacting with a celebrity. This is what they do to get their victims. Those of us who are exposed to the internet, and cannot do without it should be very careful. Navigating surfing the internet is very beneficial and interesting, however, we should be very careful of the associated risk.
To tell you how high fraudsters have increased in the internet. Imagine people blaming a fraudster for not using mixer for his victim, instead of condemning such fraudulent activity.

[Die_empty]

We have gun control policies? Do we have mixers control policies? Every rifles or guns in general can be traced back to the seller or the owner using numbers, it's not the same with mixers here.

I will be frank here, just because some good people are using mixers too doesn't mean that mixers are good, it's not a good reason enough to let mixers work freely or else, this your answer is what we will keep getting.

If an attack was successfully carried out in your area or home and after many traces you heard that they used mixers to hide the money they use to sponsor that attack I wonder if you will still say the same.

You have some valid arguments that I find meaningful. Nothing is perfect or has only advantages. Every helpful invention also have their pitfalls. What attracted me to cryptocurrencies is because it could help me live a private life. My relationship has been a victim of armed robbery because a bank staff member gave out his details to criminals.

Mixers have helped conceal how much people are worth. This has saved them from being victims of attacks. However, this essential privacy tool has also been misused by criminals. Mixers would fail to perform their function if they were regulated. Government officials would have access to information about people's crypto transactions which limits privacy.

But I think some governments have developed some advanced tools to de-anonymize transactions

[Uhwuchukwu53]

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

Crime occurs because of the intent to commit it. If Mixer is used as a positive tool, it will not lead to criminal activity, because Mixer is a place where people value privacy.
People who value privacy and always prioritize it do not necessarily engage in illegal activities. Don’t blame everything in that space just because of one small blemish.

You speak volume about reality that align what is in my heart, no positive development that lack negative influencer,what you considered to give positive impact another will used it to create or course harm damaging the positive implications. Mixer is for privacy on those who mindset is centered to privacy but is never for those who is looking for means or measure to scam people. All we need to be careful despite considering mixer privacy some still use it to commit crime damaging the purpose of the mixer.

[HustleZ]

The numbers of criminals that have understood the possibilities of evading capture through the help of mixers is alarming, I don't know about your country, this is about mine.

Few days back a guy was arrested and all of his properties were seized, he scammed a foreigner (woman) in romance scam using a popular figure in my country, he cashed out using Bitcoin and he was traced easily, caught and sentenced.

Few amounts was recovered while his seized properties are on sale to refund the women, what is shocking to me was what people said on tiktok, and almost all of them are from my country since they are using dialect signals and some had their flag up there.

Why the hell will you transaction the bitcoin without using mixer they said, I mean the whole comment section was full with this same blame that mixers is the way to scam and escape without getting caught.

Some will say why is this post necessary, it's for those who thinks that mixers are only for people who want privacy in their lives, but this just prove to me that criminals are possibly using mixers more than those who just want to stay private.

It's wild to see how a comment sections can turn into a "how to" for criminals instead of a space for justice. While mixers offer legitimate privacy for some, it's clear they've become a go-to manual for laundering scams. It's a harsh reminder that as long as technicall loopholes exist there will be someone to exploit it. So any technology before coming should be tested for loopholes or if exists should have a team designed to find loopholes and fix them so they arent used in criminal activities etc.. Talking about mixers, while some people use it for privacy, they will also be used in criminal activities and be exploited because it's a loophole for criminals, it's an easy way for them to make law authorities lose trace of them and services like these will always be exploited by criminals.

[vs2014]

In every sector you will find both good and bad roles so I think there is nothing wrong with using mixer because people use it to protect privacy. You can't directly call it illegal because I have used it myself but I am not a scammer. Some police officers in my country are involved in various crimes to earn extra money, while some officers are happy with their real paid jobs. There is nothing wrong with the police service here because people are using it in different ways. Using this mixer there is no trace of the transaction location which is really the best strategy for me in terms of privacy.

[abaeze]

No technology or system is good or bad in itself, it is how people use it that is the real thing. You can cut vegetables with a kitchen knife, and when in danger, you can use it to kill a thief/robber. Here it will depend on the user whether he will cut vegetables in the kitchen or kill people. Similarly, every thing has its good and bad sides, so the problem is not in the technology, but in the purpose of the user.

There are many things that depend on the presentation, whether the thing is bad or good, the way it is presented here it seems that this technology has made many mistakes and this is why Bitcoin is dangerous, but in reality Bitcoin or privacy tools such as mixers have many good uses, we know more or less but do not want to discuss, some people like to discuss only the accidents that occur. The work of these privacy tools is to protect the user's financial privacy, avoid tracking and provide personal security, which is not a technical mistake but the work is done correctly. Some people misuse this tool and it is shown that the fault is on the entire system or because of the tools. It has become a rule type thing for some bad people. Not all students in a class become doctors, engineers, barristers, or scientists, and some of them go astray. It is a wrong view to blame technology for one or two misusing technologies.

[lizarder]

You speak volume about reality that align what is in my heart, no positive development that lack negative influencer,what you considered to give positive impact another will used it to create or course harm damaging the positive implications. Mixer is for privacy on those who mindset is centered to privacy but is never for those who is looking for means or measure to scam people. All we need to be careful despite considering mixer privacy some still use it to commit crime damaging the purpose of the mixer.

From this we can learn that everything that happens in this world is influenced by two different things, both negative and positive and often when people engage in one or the other, it stems from their actions. Everyone wants privacy, but not everyone will commit fraud using Mixer and perhaps only a few people take advantage of the opportunity to commit fraud by exploiting Mixer. A general categorization might be inaccurate, as fraud occurs only among small groups or individuals who exploit Mixer.

Mixer can be useful for protecting people's wealth, but some people use it to defraud others and these are two different uses. Some people want to appear more private in using the mixer itself so they decide to take advantage of it and some others may try to commit fraud in some way and when used positively then the value will be good and vice versa.