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April 11, 2026, 02:42:44 AM
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What is the essence of the ceasefire if nothing will change? After seeing the news, I was hoping that the purpose of the ceasefire was to allow the safe passage of oil ships to neighboring nations whose economies are affected by the war.

The ceasefire agreement means much more than simply allowing oil tankers to move temporarily.

War will never end without concessions from both sides, and a ceasefire is a sign of that. The ceasefire agreement shows that both sides want to reduce tensions and move towards a lasting peace agreement.

I heard China forced Iran to accept the ceasefire because if the US destroys Iran's infrastructure, China may no longer get cheap oil from Iran. If this is true, then Iran and China have something they both benefit massively from each other.

China and Iran are allies, but Iran is a country with human rights and the right to make the best choices for itself. Unlike Europe or Japan, which are merely vassal states of the US, Iran is not a vassal state of China. So, I do not believe those baseless rumor.

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April 11, 2026, 02:57:20 AM
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Iran and US have agreed to a 2 week ceasefire. In a statement after Trump's ceasefire message, Iranian foreign minister Seyed Aragchi said that Iran would halt its "defensive operations" and allow safe passage through the Hormuz "via coordination with Iran's armed forces". He added that the US had accepted the "general framework" of the Iranian 10-point plan.

What does this mean? First of all, don’t breathe a sigh of relief just yet. We still don’t know whether this is the start of actual productive negotiations between Iran and USA. Second, oil prices will not suddenly go back to normal. The 2 week period where the Strait of Hormuz may open isn’t enough time for oil to be taken and distributed to the rest of the world. The ceasefire may help but as long as this war is not over, the economies of many nations will still not recover.

It's just a temporary ceasefire. This will be over faster than we've imagined, due to Iran's unwillingness to cooperate. One of the conditions of the ceasefire was to leave the Strait of Hormuz open and free (no tolls) for anyone to pass within. But Iran has limited the number of vessels that can cross the Strait, and is now considering to impose tolls. Something US President Donald Trump has warned about. There will be no negotiations, leaving us with a situation that was worse before the ceasefire.

Like you've said, oil prices won't suddenly go back to normal. If negotiations fail, it will only rise faster in price. In a good way, this will force the world to ditch oil in favor of alternative energy. The future will be one where the world will rely heavily on nuclear power. EVs will eventually overtake gas-powered cars. At least, the worse for the global economy will be far behind us. We'll see...

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April 11, 2026, 03:45:19 AM
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Iran and US have agreed to a 2 week ceasefire. In a statement after Trump's ceasefire message, Iranian foreign minister Seyed Aragchi said that Iran would halt its "defensive operations" and allow safe passage through the Hormuz "via coordination with Iran's armed forces". He added that the US had accepted the "general framework" of the Iranian 10-point plan.

What does this mean? First of all, don’t breathe a sigh of relief just yet. We still don’t know whether this is the start of actual productive negotiations between Iran and USA. Second, oil prices will not suddenly go back to normal. The 2 week period where the Strait of Hormuz may open isn’t enough time for oil to be taken and distributed to the rest of the world. The ceasefire may help but as long as this war is not over, the economies of many nations will still not recover.

It's just a temporary ceasefire. This will be over faster than we've imagined, due to Iran's unwillingness to cooperate. One of the conditions of the ceasefire was to leave the Strait of Hormuz open and free (no tolls) for anyone to pass within. But Iran has limited the number of vessels that can cross the Strait, and is now considering to impose tolls. Something US President Donald Trump has warned about. There will be no negotiations, leaving us with a situation that was worse before the ceasefire.

Like you've said, oil prices won't suddenly go back to normal. If negotiations fail, it will only rise faster in price. In a good way, this will force the world to ditch oil in favor of alternative energy. The future will be one where the world will rely heavily on nuclear power. EVs will eventually overtake gas-powered cars. At least, the worse for the global economy will be far behind us. We'll see...

Did Iran refuse to cooperate, or did Israel deliberately break the ceasefire by launching a large scale attack on Lebanon, claiming the lives of thousands? Did Iran fail to cooperate, or did Israel deliberately break the ceasefire to the point that Trump had to ask Netanyahu to stop hostilities to prevent the agreement from collapsing?

Oil will not be replaced anytime soon, forget about that idea. Many sector today still depend on oil, such as aviation, a crucial sector that is entirely dependent on oil. Or the agricultural and heavy transport sectors are still dependent on oil
The world will still need oil, and it will continue to dominate the global energy industry.


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April 11, 2026, 12:18:04 PM
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This did not last even 24 hours, let alone 2 weeks. Israel attacked Lebanon and made sure that Iran stays in the war and doesn't open the strait. And the funny thing is that, republican politicians will try to pivot this try to make it sound like it's all Iran's fault and nothing else.

Reality is simple, if USA and Israel stops bombing Iran and surrounding allies, then Iran will open the strait, but if Israel and USA keeps bombing, then it's going to keep staying close. And that means higher oil prices, that means higher gas prices that means higher everything and inflation. As long as USA doesn't stop being Israel's puppet, we are going to see them suffer more. They need a president who is not controlled by Israel, as simple as that.

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April 11, 2026, 12:42:20 PM
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If the negotiations go well which I think it will, the war is likely to end. If the war end, the United States will have no reason not to withdraw from the region. I don’t think any of the two countries will be destroyed before an agreement will be reached. I believe the reason for the ceasefire is to look for a possible way to end the war. With the direction that the war has turned to, I think Iran has seen that there is need for them to go to the discussion table to make sure they don’t get more damage than they have received already. Fighting two powerful nations like Israel and USA at the same time is not looking good for them.

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They don't do due diligence, they just dish out all they from Trumps Truth Social handle and Fox news. Tell them to relearn Geopolitics and they’ll find it a lot difficult. They recently came to an agreement with the help of Pakistan defense minister but Israel went behind to twat the plans of the ceasefire killing and targeting more Lebanese.

You're naive,  Donald Trump has requested for a ceasefire and negotiations more than thrice and they've been rebuffed by Iranian government, Iranians are not begging for a deal to be made and If they don't control Israel and fail to keep to the necessary agreement, everything goes back to square especially closing the strait. Mind you, Us government has just paid $6 billion of frozen funds asking them to open the Strait of Hormuz.. To school you again, the US and Israel are the aggressors not Iran who's only defending herself, off course they have the right to defend themselves.

If Iran don't stop using hired terrorist groups from their proxies, especially the Hezbollah terrorist group to attack Israeli cities from Lebanon then Israel has no option but to protect and defend themselves or didn't Hezbollah heard that there was a ceasefire before attacking and you expect Israel to fold their hands or clap for them cause there's a ceasefire.
 You must be very naive to think Israel is not defending it'self. Mind you, the crisis in the middle east is about dominance and power not what delusional folks like you think, else they (Iran) won't be fighting to own a nuclear power. Isreal is fully aware that once Iran owns a nuclear power they're in big problem that's why they're fighting hard to stop that from happening, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan and others are in big trouble too that's why they're allies of Israel and not Iran, you know nothing about geopolitics only to come here and rant about Iran. Before you school anyone go research about Iranian proxies and how they operate them and stop acting like you know it all whereas you know nothing.  Cry

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April 11, 2026, 02:13:55 PM
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The ceasefire may help but as long as this war is not over, the economies of many nations will still not recover.
I consider the US, Israel and Iran ceasefire to be a failure, even though the ceasefire has been going on for several days but they are still attacking, Lebanon is included in the 10 pawns of the ceasefire, But what is Israel doing now that bombs are falling in Lebanon, Iran is also attacking military bases in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, this indicates that the ceasefire has failed.

The global economy is actually having a worse impact, Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, because Israel continues to bomb Lebanon, oil ships have now turned around, don't want to take risks, This is a sign that a ceasefire is not a guarantee to restore a conducive economy, it actually worsens the global economy regarding oil trade.

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April 11, 2026, 02:36:00 PM
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The ceasefire may help but as long as this war is not over, the economies of many nations will still not recover.
I consider the US, Israel and Iran ceasefire to be a failure, even though the ceasefire has been going on for several days but they are still attacking, Lebanon is included in the 10 pawns of the ceasefire, But what is Israel doing now that bombs are falling in Lebanon, Iran is also attacking military bases in the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, this indicates that the ceasefire has failed.

The global economy is actually having a worse impact, Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, because Israel continues to bomb Lebanon, oil ships have now turned around, don't want to take risks, This is a sign that a ceasefire is not a guarantee to restore a conducive economy, it actually worsens the global economy regarding oil trade.

War! War! And war! That's all these guys know and it's so annoying especially coming from an angle of the control of power, for me the whole war would have ended if Iran didn't actually took major by forming human rings around its power plants and other valuable infrastructure because I know USA and Donald Trump would have delighted in the obliteration of these major place to cripple the power of Iran and since that isn't done this whole cease fire shenanigans is just another ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

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April 11, 2026, 03:58:14 PM
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Trump has confirmed it was a fake points reported by CNN. He also publicly says those ten points are totally different from what he called before as a workable basis. So i think this two weeks ceasefire is nothing.

It's only meaning the uncertainty of global condition will be delayed for the two weeks. Both of parties have not yet reached specific agreement, which can also lead the war to still continue.

No way US to agree with that weird 10 points plan even if it's true. These two weeks is just a pause for the war before it will be snowing ball again soon.
So did he present the original ceasefire agreement?

You cannot trust politicians like Trump. Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif posted on X that a ceasefire has been agreed and it includes Lebanon and elsewhere. But the US and its allles has denied that the deal included Lebanon, even when the key mediator said the opposite. 

When I saw the widely published ten-point ceasefire deal, I knew that the US would never accept these terms. My take is that the way might resume very soon. These two weeks are to buy time and perfect plans.
He didn't present the origial ceasefire agreement, but i only read the ceasefire only applied for US, but not for Israel.

The fact that Lebanon still gets bombed by Israel even the ceasefire has already begun. So the pause is just for US, but Israel is still continue to bombing.

Beside that i do agree this two weeks ceasefire is just a pause, but it can be broken anytime. You know US was truly unpredictable. Some of their operations came suddenly even when we're at ceasefire period.

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April 11, 2026, 04:22:50 PM
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This did not last even 24 hours, let alone 2 weeks. Israel attacked Lebanon and made sure that Iran stays in the war and doesn't open the strait. And the funny thing is that, republican politicians will try to pivot this try to make it sound like it's all Iran's fault and nothing else.

Reality is simple, if USA and Israel stops bombing Iran and surrounding allies, then Iran will open the strait, but if Israel and USA keeps bombing, then it's going to keep staying close. And that means higher oil prices, that means higher gas prices that means higher everything and inflation. As long as USA doesn't stop being Israel's puppet, we are going to see them suffer more. They need a president who is not controlled by Israel, as simple as that.
The ceasefire failed because of Israeli strike on Lebanon which made Iran react as they claim they will not abandon their proxy in Lebanon. Israel on their part claimed that Lebanon was not part of the agreement so both sides have their reasons. However, there was serious reduction or complete stoppage of bombing from both sides since the ceasefire was announced. The negotiation of US today with Iran at Pakistan will give the direction of things going forward. I saw on the news that US have agreed to unfreeze Iranian assets, such decision cannot come when there are no compromise from the other sides. But what is certainly is that Iran will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, it is red line and if Iran will agree to give up on that, the war will come to an end immediately.

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April 11, 2026, 05:55:51 PM
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So did he present the original ceasefire agreement?
I don't think such documents are usually made available to the general public, so it prolly makes sense that what made it to the media was fake. I get it that a lot of people do not trust Trump, he says a lot of things that aren't true, that's for sure, but he might be right on this one, and the media could be trying so hard to stay relevant, hence the fake publication.

That said, we'd see what happens in the next 2 weeks. If hostilities resume or if we are on a path to a lasting peace. It is hard to tell, but the global economy very well needs this respite and a complete resolution would set us on a path to economic recovery.
Trump is not a negotiation keeper. He has shown again and again that he cannot be trusted with deals because he is driven by his instinct. Pakistani PM Shehbaz Sharif posted on X after the negotiations that Lebanon is included in the ceasefire deal. Don't forget that he was the main mediator in this deal. How would you say it is fake news because Israel and the US failed to respect it? The world is ruled by politicians who are chameleons; they change at will.

There is nothing wrong with making the ceasefire deal public. Many such agreements in the past are in the public domain and have had no consequences on their enforcement. In fact, public awareness of the terms of the deal will promote enforcement.

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April 11, 2026, 10:20:56 PM
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If the negotiations go well which I think it will, the war is likely to end. If the war end, the United States will have no reason not to withdraw from the region. I don’t think any of the two countries will be destroyed before an agreement will be reached. I believe the reason for the ceasefire is to look for a possible way to end the war. With the direction that the war has turned to, I think Iran has seen that there is need for them to go to the discussion table to make sure they don’t get more damage than they have received already. Fighting two powerful nations like Israel and USA at the same time is not looking good for them.

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They don't do due diligence, they just dish out all they from Trumps Truth Social handle and Fox news. Tell them to relearn Geopolitics and they’ll find it a lot difficult. They recently came to an agreement with the help of Pakistan defense minister but Israel went behind to twat the plans of the ceasefire killing and targeting more Lebanese.

You're naive,  Donald Trump has requested for a ceasefire and negotiations more than thrice and they've been rebuffed by Iranian government, Iranians are not begging for a deal to be made and If they don't control Israel and fail to keep to the necessary agreement, everything goes back to square especially closing the strait. Mind you, Us government has just paid $6 billion of frozen funds asking them to open the Strait of Hormuz.. To school you again, the US and Israel are the aggressors not Iran who's only defending herself, off course they have the right to defend themselves.

If Iran don't stop using hired terrorist groups from their proxies, especially the Hezbollah terrorist group to attack Israeli cities from Lebanon then Israel has no option but to protect and defend themselves or didn't Hezbollah heard that there was a ceasefire before attacking and you expect Israel to fold their hands or clap for them cause there's a ceasefire.
 You must be very naive to think Israel is not defending it'self. Mind you, the crisis in the middle east is about dominance and power not what delusional folks like you think, else they (Iran) won't be fighting to own a nuclear power. Isreal is fully aware that once Iran owns a nuclear power they're in big problem that's why they're fighting hard to stop that from happening, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan and others are in big trouble too that's why they're allies of Israel and not Iran, you know nothing about geopolitics only to come here and rant about Iran. Before you school anyone go research about Iranian proxies and how they operate them and stop acting like you know it all whereas you know nothing.  Cry

Nigerian Trumper?! Beating the allegations?! Naaaaaa!

Dominance and Power?! Yet you're one of those Nigerians who complain about your president exerting Power and Dominance on Y'all.
So isreal can own nukes but Iran cannot? Now who has attacked who unprovoked between them?! Who?! You have obviously learnt nothing from the lies they told in iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria. This is what happens when you learn from a propagandist.

Countries having Us bases are slaves to the Us,  they don't think for themselves and are never fully independent. Iran fights for humanity, we're all seeing that, rather than those bombing and killing little children.

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Nigerian Trumper?! Beating the allegations?! Naaaaaa!

Dominance and Power?! Yet you're one of those Nigerians who complain about your president exerting Power and Dominance on Y'all.
So isreal can own nukes but Iran cannot? Now who has attacked who unprovoked between them?! Who?! You have obviously learnt nothing from the lies they told in iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria. This is what happens when you learn from a propagandist.

Countries having Us bases are slaves to the Us,  they don't think for themselves and are never fully independent. Iran fights for humanity, we're all seeing that, rather than those bombing and killing little children.

Now I really understand your problem, you speak out of emotions and hatred from Trump because the US is supporting their ally and based on their interest in Iran but listen to me bro, everything doesn't revolve around Trump or the US, the Middle East is one place that would get you confused and would make people like you say ignorant things.
 Do your research to see that Isreal and Iran where strong allies before the Islamic revolution in Iran, they fought side by side to overthrow the supremacy of saddam Hussein of Iraq and Israel supported the agricultural growth of Iran and even helped with tech, built and trained Iranian armed forces and was paid with oil.
 Talking about killing innocent people, Hope you're aware of the tactics of the Iranian regime which is using children and women as shields and hiding military equipment in schools and mosques. Israel mostly targets Iranian military facilities whereas the Hamas/ Hezbollah terrorist group releases missiles to Israel cities and when Israel retaliates they call it genocide. If you think Israel is a terrorist country then Hezbollah, Hamas and houthies that's sponsored by the Iranian regime ain't terrorist groups then you're a joker. Maybe you're a man who would watch your neighbors threaten your kids and do nothing i see, too bad.

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https://www.axios.com/2026/04/12/iran-talks-pakistan-vance-no-deal

The latest meeting between Iran and the United States lasted for about 21 hours. But unfortunately, they could not reach any kind of compromise from here. They talked about a 2-week ceasefire, but even after that, I saw news of small and large attacks in some media. Now, the even worse thing is that since no results have come after the meeting, it means that the war may start again .

The main point that has come up here is that America does not want Iran to develop nuclear weapons. But Iran will not accept that. Because Iran also does not want America to be so dominant in their country and around their country. They also do not want them to have bases and run the Middle East. Iran's argument is quite correct. So far, everything is uncertain. Nothing can be said about the condition of the whole world in the future.
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Today at 09:23:52 AM
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The main point that has come up here is that America does not want Iran to develop nuclear weapons. But Iran will not accept that. Because Iran also does not want America to be so dominant in their country and around their country. They also do not want them to have bases and run the Middle East. Iran's argument is quite correct. So far, everything is uncertain. Nothing can be said about the condition of the whole world in the future.

The US accusation that Iran is developing nuclear weapon is nothing new. They have been making that accusation against Iran for decades, and so far, it is clear that Iran does not possess nuclear weapon.
From what I understand, the US is demanding that they completely abandon uranium enrichment. Meanwhile, Iran insists it only enriches uranium for civilian purposes. Iran has no intention of developing nuclear weapon, as you claim.

Secondly, Iran is not demanding that the US withdraw all of its military bases in the Middle East. This clause was not included in the negotiation.
The biggest points of contention that led to the failure of the negotiation were uranium enrichment and the Strait of Hormuz.

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Today at 02:18:56 PM
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Now I really understand your problem, you speak out of emotions and hatred from Trump because the US is supporting their ally and based on their interest in Iran but listen to me bro, everything doesn't revolve around Trump or the US, the Middle East is one place that would get you confused and would make people like you say ignorant things.
 Do your research to see that Isreal and Iran where strong allies before the Islamic revolution in Iran, they fought side by side to overthrow the supremacy of saddam Hussein of Iraq and Israel supported the agricultural growth of Iran and even helped with tech, built and trained Iranian armed forces and was paid with oil.
 Talking about killing innocent people, Hope you're aware of the tactics of the Iranian regime which is using children and women as shields and hiding military equipment in schools and mosques. Israel mostly targets Iranian military facilities whereas the Hamas/ Hezbollah terrorist group releases missiles to Israel cities and when Israel retaliates they call it genocide. If you think Israel is a terrorist country then Hezbollah, Hamas and houthies that's sponsored by the Iranian regime ain't terrorist groups then you're a joker. Maybe you're a man who would watch your neighbors threaten your kids and do nothing i see, too bad.

"Based on their interest in iran" Imagine saying the opposite, they'd be tagged terrorist,  how is not the same here?! Ehh, Mr Logic!

Listening to a propagandist is a no no, most especially when it is coming from a Nigerian Trumper. I'm ready to lower myself to learn but we both know these words above are purely propaganda. I gave you clear examples of the South African Apartheid, who funded and sponsored?! The genocide in Gaza, who?!  And Hamas, there are clips all over of Benjamin Netanyahu claiming to have funded them. Do not forget to check when these resistant groups where created and the reasons for the creation. Thousands of Children died already all in the hands of Israel, 17,000 to be precise, have you condemned the killings?!

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Today at 03:56:02 PM
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Iran and US have agreed to a 2 week ceasefire. In a statement after Trump's ceasefire message, Iranian foreign minister Seyed Aragchi said that Iran would halt its "defensive operations" and allow safe passage through the Hormuz "via coordination with Iran's armed forces". He added that the US had accepted the "general framework" of the Iranian 10-point plan.

What does this mean? First of all, don’t breathe a sigh of relief just yet. We still don’t know whether this is the start of actual productive negotiations between Iran and USA. Second, oil prices will not suddenly go back to normal. The 2 week period where the Strait of Hormuz may open isn’t enough time for oil to be taken and distributed to the rest of the world. The ceasefire may help but as long as this war is not over, the economies of many nations will still not recover.

Turns out the ceasefire barely lasted 2 days and it seemed almost inevitable, because Israel does not want this war to stop - so they do everything possible to cause friction or make it impossible for Iran not to retaliate. It should be no surprise though, because Trump got himself in way too deep and does not have any sort of control of this situation, most US presidents understood not to get drawn into this conflict for exactly this reason. Now there seems to be no end in sight to this tit-for-tat type attacks and oil/fertilizer/helium which comes out of the region is going to get way more expensive. Many countries are starting to run out of fuel now and even jet fuel shortages are expected in 3 weeks, all because Trump started a war to distract from the Epstein files.

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Today at 04:47:35 PM
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The main point that has come up here is that America does not want Iran to develop nuclear weapons. But Iran will not accept that. Because Iran also does not want America to be so dominant in their country and around their country. They also do not want them to have bases and run the Middle East. Iran's argument is quite correct. So far, everything is uncertain. Nothing can be said about the condition of the whole world in the future.
At the beginning of the ceasefire, the US clearly stated that they had no backup plan and they were not receptive,
and they want their terms to be followed

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Vance said Iran chose “not to accept our terms” at the talks, which began on Saturday, adding that the US needs to see a “fundamental commitment” from Tehran not to develop nuclear weapons.

But Iran stated that they want to continue the Uranium enrichment for peaceful purposes, but this is not the end, as this is their first session only. Trump already ordered the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz hours ago, and this could turn things ugly.
We just had the biggest oil price rollback, but with this news it will take sometime before things go back to normal

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