2 week ceasefire

[Faisal2202]

Checkmate my ass!!

You all keep reading the bullshit Donald Trump writes and post on his truth social handle. They can go ahead to bully smaller nations but China?! Are you kidding me?! They have strictly warned the US about attempting to block them from doing business with iran. China literally ignored the Us and they went ahead to do their business as usual.

Haha yes, China has warned them, but so far the US has not tried to stop them. They have just moved their warships near the Strait of Hormuz. China warned them in advance, and the US knows how much this war can cost them, even all those ships, because it is a territory very close to Iran, and you know what I mean. But all we can do is speculate here. We can only hope for this war to cease, although there has been confirmed news of a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon for maybe 10 days. Maybe the talks going on between Iran and the US will come to a good end.

But you are right, Oluwa btc, that we should not take anything Trump says as guaranteed. We should get our information about the war from multiple sources too.

[sokani]

Checkmate my ass!!

You all keep reading the bullshit Donald Trump writes and post on his truth social handle. They can go ahead to bully smaller nations but China?! Are you kidding me?! They have strictly warned the US about attempting to block them from doing business with iran. China literally ignored the Us and they went ahead to do their business as usual.

I've searched the internet to see if I could find any piece of information where China "warned the US not to block the Strait of Hormuz," according to you, and I got nothing. Rather, what I got to know is that the Chinese "urges the US, or should I say both parties, to exercise restraint."

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-urges-restraint-over-us-blockade-strait-hormuz-backs-talks-2026-04-13/

Please can you point me to any credible source where "China warned the US" not to block the Strait of Hormuz?

[logfiles]

Iran's economy has deteriorated. The inflation rate has risen significantly and the decision to block the Strait of Hormuz will choke their main economy lifeline. So yeah, in my own opinion, I believe the IRGC will give up on it's nuclear ambition. There isn't any other card to play than to surrender or renew the war and I don't think IRGC will want to renew the war.

A country that has been suctioned by the US for ages, and you think it's just going to crumble now? You people who feed your minds on Trump's garbage really amuse me  
What is also funny is that before the US orchestrated riots in Iran by arming the opposition (yes, Trump admitted this), they were claiming that Iran's economy was doing so badly and people were tired and wanted to overthrow the "regime" and bla bla bla
Turns out, Iran was stronger than they thought. Blocking the straight is not going to help. If you have common sense, the people who are going to suffer are the very civilians the US was claiming to save by trying to oust the "bad" leadership. How Ironic

[fuguebtc]

Your definition of victory makes me laugh. About the Strait of Hormuz, the US is moving its warships to form a blockage in and out of the strait. Do you know what that means? Ships from other nations like China, Syria, etc, will not be able to go into the strait to buy Iranian oil. That is called checkmate, and I'm sure IRGC didn't see it coming.

So, you mean the United States was the winner? Do you know what the original goal of the United States was when it attacked Iran? Did you know that the war has entered its 49th day and they are spending over $1 billion a day?

Now they have deployed more than 15 warships and 10,000 soldiers just to create a standoff with the goal of forcing Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz, a completely free sea lane before the war, and you consider that a victory for the United States?

[Iamgoat]

Your definition of victory makes me laugh. About the Strait of Hormuz, the US is moving its warships to form a blockage in and out of the strait. Do you know what that means? Ships from other nations like China, Syria, etc, will not be able to go into the strait to buy Iranian oil. That is called checkmate, and I'm sure IRGC didn't see it coming.

Checkmate my ass!!

You all keep reading the bullshit Donald Trump writes and post on his truth social handle. They can go ahead to bully smaller nations but China?! Are you kidding me?! They have strictly warned the US about attempting to block them from doing business with iran. China literally ignored the Us and they went ahead to do their business as usual.

I'm just being worried about some of the nonchalant decisions made by Trump unbehalf of the Americans and I hope he's not doing more harms than good to the image of the country. I don't see any good impact the war against Iran is bringing to the USA economy rather than expending of their resources into fighting and buying ammunitions which will surely run the country into more debts. I also don’t see them capturing the leadership of Iran like they thought they were going to do initially and now since the strategy doesn’t seem to be working it is better they leave Iran alone else they will be taken by surprise on what they will spend and see no any tangible outcome afterwards.

[Abiky]

The current oil crisis is not the first of its kind, and the idea of ​​reducing dependence on oil is not new either. The whole world know that its supply is limited

Based on my quick research, the world has experienced energy crises in 1973, 1979, 1990, and the 2022 conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Similarly, the idea of ​​reducing dependence on oil also stems from that. But as we can see, oil still play an indispensable role and remains the lifeblood of the economy to this day


It is easier said than done, and the replacement will take centuries, not overnight as we might think. Many of us are oversimplifying thing.

Ah, yes. Many failed attempts in the past, due to oil being "expendable". I would put the claims of oil having a limited supply, under a scope. Especially when countries keep drilling/extracting oil like there's no tomorrow. We've been hearing countries exploiting new oil deposits for a while now. So oil might not be as limited as governments want you to think.

I agree with you that a full transition from oil into nuclear or other alternative energy sources, is going to take a very long time. But it's going to happen whenever we like it or not. What happened with the US-Israel-Iran war should serve as a lesson to countries worldwide that depending solely on oil for energy comes with its risks. They will be working towards achieving energy security from here on end. Perhaps, this will make the EU stronger, while having an adverse effect over the US. Only time will tell...

[passwordnow]

The Strait of Hormuz, a completely free sea lane before the war, and you consider that a victory for the United States?

That's hard to realize by those who think that they're a victor on this war. It's been free and open before the war and now, everyone tries to hope for that it will be open again. Good thing the ceasefire came and then it's open for the vessels to pass but the crucial part is if it will be opened still after this ceasefire or if there will be the development of the agreement. No victors on these wars but innocent lives are taken and everyone gets to suffer the impact of it through inflation.

[DanWalker]

Checkmate my ass!!

You all keep reading the bullshit Donald Trump writes and post on his truth social handle. They can go ahead to bully smaller nations but China?! Are you kidding me?! They have strictly warned the US about attempting to block them from doing business with iran. China literally ignored the Us and they went ahead to do their business as usual.

I've searched the internet to see if I could find any piece of information where China "warned the US not to block the Strait of Hormuz," according to you, and I got nothing. Rather, what I got to know is that the Chinese "urges the US, or should I say both parties, to exercise restraint."

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-urges-restraint-over-us-blockade-strait-hormuz-backs-talks-2026-04-13/

Please can you point me to any credible source where "China warned the US" not to block the Strait of Hormuz?

Yes, there's no news indicating that China warned the US. Instead, they called on both sides to exercise restraint and work towards peace rather than further escalating tension.

However, it would be naive to believe everything Trump says and everything the Western press writes. For example, Trump's claim that Iran had agreed to hand over uranium to the US. But then Iran stated that this was not true. Their uranium will not be transported out of national territory.

[sokani]

However, it would be naive to believe everything Trump says and everything the Western press writes. For example, Trump's claim that Iran had agreed to hand over uranium to the US. But then Iran stated that this was not true. Their uranium will not be transported out of national territory.

He's the president. So anything he says the media will report it. But by now, we should know better not to take everything he says seriously. Regarding the claims. I would say he was playing a mind game. He was messing with the IRGC when he made that post or comment. Probably, he wanted to see how they would react.

[Cheema02]

Stopping the war is very beneficial for all countries because the war is only between Iran and Israel America but many countries have been affected by the war between the two of them.Although America and Iran are facing the most losses and troubles and along with them we have all been facing many difficulties including the excessive increase in oil prices the deterioration of the economy difficulties in transportation skyrocketing inflation and other things.The most important problem for Islamic countries is the postponement of Hajj which should not happen under any circumstances.Everyone should want the war to be stop permanently and the damage done to be compensated.

Your point about the impact of war on countries directly is very reasonable because the current conflict between Israel, USA and Iran is not limited to the boders of those countries but its affects the global finance system. Due this conflict oil prices increases in international markets and so transportation becomes costly and its push to increas the inflation in many other countries rather than conflicted regions so those contries that have no concern with this conflict they also socially and economiclay suffers. your talk about Hajj os also very significant because it helds the great religious value and should not ne disrupted in any situation. And the only peaceful conversations are the best solutions of stability and financial recovery so all the contries should support peaceful dialogue among both the countries so due this conversations long term peace and global stability may be improved.

[Oluwa-btc]

But you are right, Oluwa btc, that we should not take anything Trump says as guaranteed. We should get our information about the war from multiple sources too.

It is literally  the right thing to do. Whenever we come across any information, we should endeavour to go for validity but we fail to do that. Thanks to the social media honestly, it was difficult for United States to win the media war as usual. Iranians top officials came out to update and educate the world about what's happening and 80% of thr world where literally supporting them. The truth is always out there right in front of our eyes to see, but we choose to take all that is said from a higher authority. Donald Trump is no exception, his recent claims of Iranians opening the strait of Hormuz are completely false and market manipulations.

[brother brother]

The two weeks cease fire could bring something new and if not the world will suffer more energy supply, all trump desire and goal might not still be met. The question is that will trump consider or come to agree and accept the Iranian to a certain point?, I see trump never to compromise on his decision and as that, if the Iran agree to all that the US demands, it could be finally agreed by the Iran but in negative peace.

[WatChe]

It is literally  the right thing to do. Whenever we come across any information, we should endeavour to go for validity but we fail to do that. Thanks to the social media honestly, it was difficult for United States to win the media war as usual. Iranians top officials came out to update and educate the world about what's happening and 80% of thr world where literally supporting them. The truth is always out there right in front of our eyes to see, but we choose to take all that is said from a higher authority. Donald Trump is no exception, his recent claims of Iranians opening the strait of Hormuz are completely false and market manipulations.

Iran has blocked Strait of Hormuz once again after US refuses to lifts its blockade on Iranian ports. The message is clear from Iran that they want to negotiate but on equality not as a loser. If Donald Trump is serious in ending the war then he must also step back and lift blockade of Iran seaports. This war is not affecting Iran and US only but the whole world. Due to disruption of oil and gas supply, the price of oil has gone up in entire world and things will get worse if this war continuous. This is demand of whole world that this war must end asap.     

[Sexylizzy2813]

Cease fire can't stop this war, they should come to an agreement on what to do and what not to do, at first when I heard this cease fire for a number of days I never saw it as the solution to the problem is like them taking a break from shooting at each other and regrouping, after that they resume...political statements sometimes are no suppose to be taken the way they say it, only thing is that while listening to them speak you use wisdom/knowledge to follow them because these guys are very tricky, we can't tell what's going on behind closed doors but my concern is for them to stop whatever they are doing for things to come back to normal.

[Faisal2202]

It is literally  the right thing to do. Whenever we come across any information, we should endeavour to go for validity but we fail to do that. Thanks to the social media honestly, it was difficult for United States to win the media war as usual. Iranians top officials came out to update and educate the world about what's happening and 80% of thr world where literally supporting them. The truth is always out there right in front of our eyes to see, but we choose to take all that is said from a higher authority. Donald Trump is no exception, his recent claims of Iranians opening the strait of Hormuz are completely false and market manipulations.

Can't agree more, we should always confirm the validity of the news otherwise we are going to get wrong information about the situation of war although most of the countries have started strict actions aginst those who has shared any news about the country they are living in, even if they have shared it on some phone call to their families back home, they are being arrested.

That's why we are not seeing any information but from only few sources we are getting, one from Iran and another from US.

Speaking about the strait of Hormuz, I think his claim was not wrong, it was opened, but Yesternight I heard Iran has closed it again as US violated the ceasefire but can't say anything for sure because I am not following the news anymore because the reality is different here, these people are making millions with the insider information. Do you know about a case, that just happened in the last two days, someone made $800 million by shorting Oil, he knew the strait is going to be opened, How?

[Ultegra134]

Iran has blocked Strait of Hormuz once again after US refuses to lifts its blockade on Iranian ports. The message is clear from Iran that they want to negotiate but on equality not as a loser. If Donald Trump is serious in ending the war then he must also step back and lift blockade of Iran seaports. This war is not affecting Iran and US only but the whole world. Due to disruption of oil and gas supply, the price of oil has gone up in entire world and things will get worse if this war continuous. This is demand of whole world that this war must end asap.     

I saw that coming. The first time the ceasefire took place I believed that there's actually hope that the war will eventually end. Ceasefire doesn't mean the end of it, but it's at least an improvement and is showing that there's potential. Now, I've come to terms that there's the U.S and Israel are in no disposition to stop the war if their needs aren't 100% met. This war is at a stalemate and there are no winning sides, and can lead to a long-lasting war that will affect the whole world, leading to thousands of deaths in the process.

[abhiseshakana]

Iran has blocked Strait of Hormuz once again after US refuses to lifts its blockade on Iranian ports. The message is clear from Iran that they want to negotiate but on equality not as a loser. If Donald Trump is serious in ending the war then he must also step back and lift blockade of Iran seaports. This war is not affecting Iran and US only but the whole world. Due to disruption of oil and gas supply, the price of oil has gone up in entire world and things will get worse if this war continuous. This is demand of whole world that this war must end asap.     

I saw that coming. The first time the ceasefire took place I believed that there's actually hope that the war will eventually end. Ceasefire doesn't mean the end of it, but it's at least an improvement and is showing that there's potential. Now, I've come to terms that there's the U.S and Israel are in no disposition to stop the war if their needs aren't 100% met. This war is at a stalemate and there are no winning sides, and can lead to a long-lasting war that will affect the whole world, leading to thousands of deaths in the process.

Yes, war will still last a long time, we can see classic signs of a long conflict from both Iran and US-Israel strategy, each party give pressure without triggering big war, Israel and US not yet all out and Iran never attack totally. There are interesting fact that revealed by many intelligence observer in my country. Even US warship blockade Iran port and claimed repel merchant vessel which pass Hormuz strait but when Chinese flagged vessel pass wihout heeding US warship, the US navy do nothing and doen't fire them. It show that although US military still the most powerfull in the world, the US realize that US not as strong as previously and its rivals are not as weak as before.From China vessel, we can learn the meaning of real sovereignity, It show that China has big bargaining power, i don't think country wihout bargaining power dare to continue sailing like China vessel.

In my opinion, negotiation is a tools to measure the strength and resilience of our enemy not to find win win solution as sounded. Each party need it to take a proper position during war.  I worry if the war continued in long term it can triggering global recession in many sectors, not only due to disruptions to oil logistics but also to the global supply chains of other products whose trade depends on the opening and closing of the Strait of Hormuz, such as LNG and fertilizer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78n6p09pzno

[Ultegra134]

Yes, war will still last a long time, we can see classic signs of a long conflict from both Iran and US-Israel strategy, each party give pressure without triggering big war, Israel and US not yet all out and Iran never attack totally. There are interesting fact that revealed by many intelligence observer in my country. Even US warship blockade Iran port and claimed repel merchant vessel which pass Hormuz strait but when Chinese flagged vessel pass wihout heeding US warship, the US navy do nothing and doen't fire them. It show that although US military still the most powerfull in the world, the US realize that US not as strong as previously and its rivals are not as weak as before.From China vessel, we can learn the meaning of real sovereignity, It show that China has big bargaining power, i don't think country wihout bargaining power dare to continue sailing like China vessel.

In my opinion, negotiation is a tools to measure the strength and resilience of our enemy not to find win win solution as sounded. Each party need it to take a proper position during war.  I worry if the war continued in long term it can triggering global recession in many sectors, not only due to disruptions to oil logistics but also to the global supply chains of other products whose trade depends on the opening and closing of the Strait of Hormuz, such as LNG and fertilizer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78n6p09pzno

The issue is that while they're arguing on the ceasefire or the opening and closure of the Strait of Hormuz, some people are making billions from oil price volatility that these news are causing; someone could easily claim that it's deliberate. A long-lasting war will have severe consequences for the EU and global economy, and will hurt the average citizen with excessive inflation and fuel costs. Trump isn't going to back down, and with relatively no actual advances against Iran, he's getting impatient and may eventually send U.S troops into Iranian land. This will only cost thousands of lives, dragging the world to a never-ending war.

[logfiles]

Speaking about the strait of Hormuz, I think his claim was not wrong, it was opened, but Yesternight I heard Iran has closed it again as US violated the ceasefire but can't say anything for sure because I am not following the news anymore

They are the ones who started the war so violating the ceasefire isn't a surprise. By imposing a blockade even when Iran opened the strait of Hormuz, that is US trying to avoid embarrassment of the war they started being a complete failure and now the whole world economy is going to suffer just because of some crazy orange man whose ego has been squeezed to the core because Iran has refused to fold.

[free-bit.co.in]

Cease fire can't stop this war, they should come to an agreement on what to do and what not to do, at first when I heard this cease fire for a number of days I never saw it as the solution to the problem is like them taking a break from shooting at each other and regrouping, after that they resume...political statements sometimes are no suppose to be taken the way they say it, only thing is that while listening to them speak you use wisdom/knowledge to follow them because these guys are very tricky, we can't tell what's going on behind closed doors but my concern is for them to stop whatever they are doing for things to come back to normal.

Of course, what we want is a lasting peace agreement, not just a temporary ceasefire. But you need to know that no peace agreement will ever be established without a ceasefire to allow both sides to sit down at the negotiating table.

The ceasefire agreement does not guarantee anything, but it is a first step toward ending the war. We should not underestimate or downplay that.

In war, the absence of a ceasefire agreement means no negotiations, only an escalation of violence.