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Today at 12:18:32 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.

The essence of public office revolves around the priority of its citizens for public service. When we mean by public service, this may consist of anything that aids in making the country a better place for everyone to benefit.

If a government official owns and operates a casino, then that would tantamount to conflict in his interest which can heavily prejudice the public. Instead of helping your people, your making their situation worse for your benefit. This should never be countenanced at all cost because this would be inimical to everyone.

Unfortunately, however, while being vocal about this situation could be the right move, these government officials are also the ones who are in the Congress. Meaning, they would NEVER create a law prohibiting these officials in owning and operating a casino because that would definitely affect them!

 
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Today at 12:19:13 AM
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I'm ok with laws that prohibit government workers from playing in casinos, but I'm baffled that politicians can own a casino. One example, our country, the Philippines, has many casinos, online or offline, that are owned or operated by politicians, or they have a share from the family corporation that owns casinos in the country.

One congressman admitted to operating an e-sabong in his province, and one mayor is a major shareholder and founder of the company that operates BingoPlus and related gaming brands.

I don't want to spotlight these politicians, but records show that they have shares on this casinos online and physical casinos

So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.

In both cases they are supposed to be ruled by the same regulations and stay away from gambling, you are correct. However, there is an important difference when comes to normal government workers and those politicians...

When a politician have important shares or owns a casino, they are basically part of a very profitable business, which guarantees money to them and their family, and also creates jobs in their province.

On the other hand, when a normal government worker engages in gambling, they do not do so by opening a casino or being part of the house, they are against the house instead, that means they are not going to get guaranteed money or generate jobs, in the most severe cases of addiction, those government workers night engage in corruption for the sake of keeping their gambling activities.

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Today at 01:44:59 AM
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I don't think the ruling on government workers helps. Like, why ban them at all? When can they just entertain themselves and still be able to hold themselves to high standards? This is, unless they can't, and they are addicted, that would be a different case.

The conflict here, IMO, is that politicians own casinos and then have a say in their regulations. It's definitely a conflict, no doubt. They could align themselves with profit by enacting policies. There should be challenges to these types of things.

 
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Today at 05:23:46 AM
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I support laws that prohibit people professionally involved in politics from owning casinos, bookmakers, or holding shares in these companies. This is part of a broader system of measures aimed at combating addiction. Politicians who own casinos will inevitably advertise these casinos, directly or indirectly, and promote them at the state level. I believe this will also inevitably lead to unfair competition with casinos whose owners are not politicians.

 
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Today at 05:36:30 AM
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I'm ok with laws that prohibit government workers from playing in casinos, but I'm baffled that politicians can own a casino. One example, our country, the Philippines, has many casinos, online or offline, that are owned or operated by politicians, or they have a share from the family corporation that owns casinos in the country.

One congressman admitted to operating an e-sabong in his province, and one mayor is a major shareholder and founder of the company that operates BingoPlus and related gaming brands.

I don't want to spotlight these politicians, but records show that they have shares on this casinos online and physical casinos

So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.
Tell me 1 country that doesn't have corrupt politicians? They are above the law in every country and the amount of corruption we see is nothing compared to the amount we don't see. Why wouldn't they be involved in a large gambling site that's basically a license to print money?

Should they be allowed? No, but who is going to stop them?

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Today at 05:59:49 AM
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In democratic systems, politicians are usually defined as elected persons (those who are elected), while civil servants are those who are appointed to office. Whether they can be casino owners or, more broadly, own a business is determined by the laws of the country. If this is allowed by law and does not cause a conflict of interest, then they probably can. In general, such restrictions usually apply to civil servants (for example, the police and other similar structures), but not to elected officials. Another question is how owning a casino (which is not entirely ethical in the eyes of some voters) can affect a politician's rating.


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Today at 06:19:54 AM
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Politicians have money to runs the business but not many government workers have the money. That is the different but there is more differences that we don't know the details. The politicians can also pays more than the government workers and have more networks to run the business with problems.

Perhaps the government workers can't runs business as they are parts of the government. While the politicians can pays other people to runs their business. Politicians may runs their business secretly without anyone knows but they have back up from the high government levels.

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Today at 07:00:43 AM
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Such things can be observed in different countries of the world. Especially in countries where there is a lot of corruption, the government themselves make different rules and they also go against them and commit various types of criminal activities. And since online gambling has become very common, even if the government makes any rules against gambling, it will not work in reality . Even then, they make many rules, but many of them operate casino activities illegally as you OP mentioned.

Since they are in power, all kinds of activities in the country are conducted through them. Even if it goes beyond the rules, no action is taken against them. And it is not just gambling that takes place in a casino house. There is alcohol, parties and even many girls there to provide entertainment, everything is part of their business.

However, in this case, the government should decide to monitor properly, where no one can gamble before reaching adulthood. This will make it possible to prevent young people and young students from gambling.

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Today at 07:31:34 AM
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Of course, that's it because owning a casino doesn't mean that you are a gambler and it business that generates money. Unlike, a gambler that uses his money to gamble believing he can hit the jackpot. Government workers are banned from gambling because they're handling public offices and any of them that gets addicted can use public funds in their possession to feed their addiction. We have read stories about this times without number. I don't see it as a bad thing.

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Today at 12:56:37 PM
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I'm ok with laws that prohibit government workers from playing in casinos, but I'm baffled that politicians can own a casino. One example, our country, the Philippines, has many casinos, online or offline, that are owned or operated by politicians, or they have a share from the family corporation that owns casinos in the country.

One congressman admitted to operating an e-sabong in his province, and one mayor is a major shareholder and founder of the company that operates BingoPlus and related gaming brands.

I don't want to spotlight these politicians, but records show that they have shares on this casinos online and physical casinos

So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.
I believe the reason why government workers (which is also known as public servants), and politicians (with the inclusion of lawmakers) are prohibited from gambling is to provide public trust and integrity due to the chance of using public funds on gambling.

But based on what you explain in the OP, I see it as something that will cause public frustration and perceived double standards because the government workers are restricted from being investors in the gambling space, while the politicians are allowed.

I believe the same thing should go for both the government workers and politicians, since the reason for their gambling restriction was the same thing, so the same thing should apply to them in the area of being a gambling platform investor.

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Today at 01:00:38 PM
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So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.

Politicians are using the country law loophole on gambling. Even the Sandiganbayan secretary Remulla family member own a POGO so I doubt there will be someone in the Philippines will be brave enough to point this loophole regarding gambling law.

I agree that both being an owner and a player should be restricted for a government employee since they are serving the country citizens.

Sadly, the law in our country is pro rich.


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Today at 01:33:04 PM
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Politicians are using the country law loophole on gambling. Even the Sandiganbayan secretary Remulla family member own a POGO so I doubt there will be someone in the Philippines will be brave enough to point this loophole regarding gambling law.

I agree that both being an owner and a player should be restricted for a government employee since they are serving the country citizens.

Sadly, the law in our country is pro rich.
Those politicians who own that kind of business are lawmakers too, so they can easily push laws that will favor them and their businesses, especially if it’s in a corrupt country. So honestly we should not be surprised by that, especially here in the Philippines where politics is mostly about money and corruption is everywhere.

That’s also why I prefer gambling on crypto online casinos, even if they don’t have a license in my country. For me, some of them still have a better reputation than casinos that are operating under a corrupt system here.

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Today at 01:59:05 PM
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So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

The difference lies in the possibility of using government salaries for gambling, and the other earns money from gambling. 
Although for me, the situation is still wrong. Where tightly supervised gambling businesses have a protector behind them if a problem occurs. 
Government employees are prohibited from gambling because there is a possibility of spending their salary money or, worse, using money from the government budget for gambling. Meanwhile, politicians who own shares in casinos are running a business. The law is not strict enough to regulate everyone involved in gambling.

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Today at 02:07:16 PM
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Of course, that's it because owning a casino doesn't mean that you are a gambler and it business that generates money. Unlike, a gambler that uses his money to gamble believing he can hit the jackpot. Government workers are banned from gambling because they're handling public offices and any of them that gets addicted can use public funds in their possession to feed their addiction. We have read stories about this times without number. I don't see it as a bad thing.

The irony is this politicians is the reason why international casino on that same country was forced close due to the reason that it gives a bad impact to the society and other propaganda that against gambling while they own the same business on different locations quietly.

Casino is now being discouraged in my country due to the increasing case of addiction but a politician backed casino is always immune to this law.

I hate playing on my local casino for the reason that they are monopolized by oligarchs here.

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Today at 02:18:42 PM
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I'm ok with laws that prohibit government workers from playing in casinos, but I'm baffled that politicians can own a casino. One example, our country, the Philippines, has many casinos, online or offline, that are owned or operated by politicians, or they have a share from the family corporation that owns casinos in the country.

One congressman admitted to operating an e-sabong in his province, and one mayor is a major shareholder and founder of the company that operates BingoPlus and related gaming brands.

I don't want to spotlight these politicians, but records show that they have shares on this casinos online and physical casinos

So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.
We live on this shit world on where,

those who do have money can do all sorts of things that they want...
those who do have tons of connections, then they can freely do it without having those prohibitions.
those are simply who are on the top of the chain or triangle when it comes to power,money, connection.

Actually its not surprising anymore on which this isnt just that happening on 3rd world but also in those other counties as well but its quite evident into these developing countries on which corruption and abuse of power is that very obvious. We can shortly say that poor people wouldnt be having the rights and they will always be a slave.

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Today at 02:24:33 PM
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So what's the difference between an average government worker and a politician? I consider them both as government workers, as they get their salary from the taxes of the people.

Correct me if I'm wrong with my assumption that they both should have no connection to a gambling platform.
Well its almost the same honestly and if government employees are not allowed to play via casino then politicians too. However, Im not really sure if theres a strict rule about not able to play on casino or being an owner of it. With the cases specifically in the Philippines there must be some sort of supicious since we all know our country is quite famous on corruption and using funds of the government to some casino.

Well this topic is interesting maybe I need to dive in for more logical answer to this.

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Today at 02:41:15 PM
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There is a clear difference between playing & owning, as far as I know gambling business is legal in the Philippines, so when politicians have shares in gambling companies, it should be the same as investing in other legal businesses in the Philippines. Government workers are prohibited from playing for a strong reason, so that their performance in serving the public is not disrupted. If they play & lose, it will definitely affect their performance in serving the people.

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Today at 02:42:51 PM
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Of course, that's it because owning a casino doesn't mean that you are a gambler and it business that generates money. Unlike, a gambler that uses his money to gamble believing he can hit the jackpot. Government workers are banned from gambling because they're handling public offices and any of them that gets addicted can use public funds in their possession to feed their addiction. We have read stories about this times without number. I don't see it as a bad thing.

Nowadays government employees or politicians both play gambling. Politicians can run casinos because they have both money and power. But I don't know if all employees can take money from government fund. However, I see many in the army gambling, and many losing money and going into debt. However, even if they are government jobs, their salary is not very high, but they get many benefits. And while gambling is banned, casinos are not. So it can be accessed very easily secretly.

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Today at 02:43:12 PM
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If you're a politician and the law prohibits you from owning a casino, what's stopping you from circumventing this prohibition without breaking the law? Being a politician means being naturally cunning and resourceful. 🙋

For example, you could transfer ownership of a casino to your wife, sister, parents, or simply a trusted person. If you transfer ownership of the casino to your wife, and then a law is passed prohibiting politicians' wives from owning casinos, you could simply divorce your wife and live with her in a civil partnership. This seems absurd! However, in my country, all officials do this...

In my opinion, politicians and officials shouldn't be prohibited from owning casinos. It's pointless. However, their activities should be completely controlled by the citizens of their country. How this is achieved is an entirely different matter. 🤷 Strictly speaking, modern technology makes this possible. However, these technologies are used to control the behavior of the citizens themselves (not politicians).

As for the situation where an effective and competent official owns a casino, I have nothing against it. The main thing, in my opinion, is that this person benefits citizens. 🧑‍⚖️

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Of course, that's it because owning a casino doesn't mean that you are a gambler and it business that generates money. Unlike, a gambler that uses his money to gamble believing he can hit the jackpot. Government workers are banned from gambling because they're handling public offices and any of them that gets addicted can use public funds in their possession to feed their addiction. We have read stories about this times without number. I don't see it as a bad thing.

Nowadays government employees or politicians both play gambling. Politicians can run casinos because they have both money and power. But I don't know if all employees can take money from government fund. However, I see many in the army gambling, and many losing money and going into debt. However, even if they are government jobs, their salary is not very high, but they get many benefits. And while gambling is banned, casinos are not. So it can be accessed very easily secretly.
It will be unfair if politicians can run their own casinos while preventing government workers not to have their own casino if they have the money and the willingness to do that. Anyone can gamble in a casino and the same thing should apply to owning a casino without any problem or government sanctions.

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