Negative trust from holydarkness – time to address the real problem

[Rating Place]

baba20 on the fixed match.

I have never seen anything like this in my life. Shuffle's 'evidence' was never released because it simply does not exist. Innocent people are not supposed to prove their innocence, yet OP was interrogated endlessly, asked to provide everything about his life, his account, his betting history, while Shuffle provided ZERO. Not a single sports provider flag, not a single report, not a single governing body statement, not any "IP" that prooves someone used his acc, shuffle should have all this evidences from his account. nothing. NOTHING. And yet the OP is the one being put on trial?

Come on holydarkness, how much did Tim or Noah pay you to 'decide' this mediation? Because that's exactly what this looks like. They couldn´t even come here to defend themselves because they know they don´t have any valid argument, pathetic.

And let's talk about your mediation being completely invalid and garbage. You couldn't even follow the basic terms of the agreement that OP wrote. OP allowed Shuffle to submit evidence related to the integrity of the specific event and match fixing. What did Shuffle send you? His betting history. That's it. That's their 'evidence'. And you ran with it like it meant something. And kept asking for inumerous other things not related to anything that was agreed and worst, didn´t even any provide any evidence of any other issue related to his account.
This is not mediation. This is a joke. A bad one. Hahahaha come on, you could apply directly for Shuffle's advocate.

Now you can "nudge" Tim and get a beer to celebrate.

Shuffle´s pocket exists, don´t place big sports bet there.

Yes or no, Joe. That's the only question you should focus yourself right now, regardless on this thread or its twin, if you really want to clear your name by creating this thread instead of playing smoke and mirror.

Yes or no. No need to bring other topic, that's for... discussion for other time [on other thread].

Bear in mind: I deliberately made it your twin thread so the purpose is clear: you locked the thread where I attempted to clear the matter you're so busy with these past few days: the negative feedback. These twins residing in Repu board, they're far more serious than her sister-board, SA. If you keep chasing tails and running and prancing, they'll see you like onion glass while we try to peel the sold opaque onion.

I'll advise you to give that simple but very impactful question an answer before all overseers see who you really are. Yes, we have a written contract and I'll show why casino can not ignore flag, or no, we don't have contract because you actually also know that many casino has to obey provider's flag, floowed by a very clear explanation why you peer pressuring [and you took pride in it] casinos to pay.

I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove I deserve negative trust. You should be jailed for what's been going on the last 2 years. Later I'll post how many posters said there was no proof of match fixing.

[holydarkness]

I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove I deserve negative trust. You should be jailed for what's been going on the last 2 years. Later I'll post how many posters said there was no proof of match fixing.

The proof is there, explained in details, with evidence, why the description of the tag said what it said. It's clear as day. I wanted to address other matters just to give you chance to get that to neutral or perhaps removed, hence my thread, as yours was locked.

And now you ran here, arguing about "censorship" while all I do is to keep you contained and focused in the topic, to counter your well-known strategy of deflection by bringing other topic that's very very irrelevant. Like above.

Remember, DTs are watching. All prominent members are watching that while you create this thread to address my tag, when given chance to discuss it, you deflect.

So, Joe, yes or no? It's simple. You don't have money that much? Can't you borrow someone? Remember, the other side of the offer was me completely gone from the thread, for good. And since you must have right [that's why you're so sure and parading around SA with the propaganda, is it not?] you can practically borrowed the fund for a day, get it escrowed, and then returned. After all, I'm wrong [from your POV]. The money is secure.

What stopped you, Joe?

[Rating Place]

I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove I deserve negative trust. You should be jailed for what's been going on the last 2 years. Later I'll post how many posters said there was no proof of match fixing.

The proof is there, explained in details, with evidence, why the description of the tag said what it said. It's clear as day. I wanted to address other matters just to give you chance to get that to neutral or perhaps removed, hence my thread, as yours was locked.

And now you ran here, arguing about "censorship" while all I do is to keep you contained and focused in the topic, to counter your well-known strategy of deflection by bringing other topic that's very very irrelevant. Like above.

Remember, DTs are watching. All prominent members are watching that while you create this thread to address my tag, when given chance to discuss it, you deflect.

So, Joe, yes or no? It's simple. You don't have money that much? Can't you borrow someone? Remember, the other side of the offer was me completely gone from the thread, for good. And since you must have right [that's why you're so sure and parading around SA with the propaganda, is it not?] you can practically borrowed the fund for a day, get it escrowed, and then returned. After all, I'm wrong [from your POV]. The money is secure.

What stopped you, Joe?

No one agreed with you. There was no proof. The accusation was match fixing.

 You did the same with BetPanda when they paid you through the sig campaign. This time $30,000 was on the line. There was no question what would happen.

 Don't ask questions, show me what I did wrong other than exposing your every scam where you rule for the book.

You are crooked. I'd never make a bet with you.

[nutildah]

Just STOP. I'll post quotes.

This is the reason you pose a problem to the forum: you said something that was incorrect, were shown information that proved you were incorrect, and instead of admitting it you doubled-down, leaving yourself holding an indefensibly wrong position.

You've demonstrated this exact behavior repeatedly when attempting to intervene in Scam Accusations: an utter disregard for transparent reality. It is impossible to progress in any meaningful fashion in matters as complicated as these casino issues with this mindset. When you base your position on wrong information, you are not only wasting everybody's time but the time and possibly even money of casino complainants.

[Rating Place]

baba20 on the fixed match.

I have never seen anything like this in my life. Shuffle's 'evidence' was never released because it simply does not exist. Innocent people are not supposed to prove their innocence, yet OP was interrogated endlessly, asked to provide everything about his life, his account, his betting history, while Shuffle provided ZERO. Not a single sports provider flag, not a single report, not a single governing body statement, not any "IP" that prooves someone used his acc, shuffle should have all this evidences from his account. nothing. NOTHING. And yet the OP is the one being put on trial?

Come on holydarkness, how much did Tim or Noah pay you to 'decide' this mediation? Because that's exactly what this looks like. They couldn´t even come here to defend themselves because they know they don´t have any valid argument, pathetic.

And let's talk about your mediation being completely invalid and garbage. You couldn't even follow the basic terms of the agreement that OP wrote. OP allowed Shuffle to submit evidence related to the integrity of the specific event and match fixing. What did Shuffle send you? His betting history. That's it. That's their 'evidence'. And you ran with it like it meant something. And kept asking for inumerous other things not related to anything that was agreed and worst, didn´t even any provide any evidence of any other issue related to his account.
This is not mediation. This is a joke. A bad one. Hahahaha come on, you could apply directly for Shuffle's advocate.

Now you can "nudge" Tim and get a beer to celebrate.

Shuffle´s pocket exists, don´t place big sports bet there.

Yes or no, Joe. That's the only question you should focus yourself right now, regardless on this thread or its twin, if you really want to clear your name by creating this thread instead of playing smoke and mirror.

Yes or no. No need to bring other topic, that's for... discussion for other time [on other thread].

Bear in mind: I deliberately made it your twin thread so the purpose is clear: you locked the thread where I attempted to clear the matter you're so busy with these past few days: the negative feedback. These twins residing in Repu board, they're far more serious than her sister-board, SA. If you keep chasing tails and running and prancing, they'll see you like onion glass while we try to peel the sold opaque onion.

I'll advise you to give that simple but very impactful question an answer before all overseers see who you really are. Yes, we have a written contract and I'll show why casino can not ignore flag, or no, we don't have contract because you actually also know that many casino has to obey provider's flag, floowed by a very clear explanation why you peer pressuring [and you took pride in it] casinos to pay.

You don't understand flags. When there is an unusual bet, a flag goes up. It can be pregame or during the game. It's just a warning. Sometimes wagering gets halted. A flag went up. Then the game was played and everyone said there was no fix. It was just an unusual bet. I don't know how you do these things to players.

@nutildah, You continue to post fake news.

You mixed up the XYes cases. There were 2 XYes cases. I told you that your quotes were wrong when you kept posting God of Thunder's quotes.

nutildah is now up to 14 unsolicitad direct follows in this thread alone. I may go do this for the year since scam accusations is 100x worse.

I'm locking the thread. You two are insane. nutildah just gave me neutral trust because he mixed up the XYes cases.