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Today at 05:31:54 AM
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Well, if you make a new deposit every time you lose and hope to win back, this is a complete lack of bankroll management.

It’s not really lack of control, it’s more like there was no real bankroll management in the first place, because honestly there was never even a proper bankroll set up.

We throw around the term bankroll management too easily sometimes, but we should first understand what it really means. For me, bankroll management should be something intended for the long term, like a budget meant to last for a month of gambling or something close to that.

Because if the money is too small, you can’t really call it bankroll management. Most people will just try to chase a big return right away, and that already goes against the real idea of proper bankroll use.

Real bankroll management is not about trying to double it fast or turn it into 10x in a short time. Pro gamblers who are actually profitable usually work with just a small percentage of their bankroll each time, and that mindset is the more correct one.

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Today at 06:35:34 AM
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There is no need to chase what you can afford to lose, because the money is just too little for your concern, isn't it? People only chase what they have lost because they aren't ready to lose the money in the first place, fixed budget can be something you aren't ready to lose, just because it's fixed doesn't mean you are ready to lose the money, if you are using fixed amount, make sure it's what you can afford to lose.
Some gamblers don't have any amount they risk on gambling, it all depends on the amount they can afford every week, some gamblers have different type of jobs that brings in high and low income based on time, sales and other things, someone who can afford to lose 20 this week can afford to lose 40 in the week time.

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Today at 07:18:18 AM
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Having a fixed budget helps, but what helps more is sticking with that fixed budget. People can make calculations based on the money they have and allocate a certain amount for gambling, but it all changes immediately when they start losing; they are no longer able to control themselves and stick to it, so one thing I will say helps more is self-discipline to make you stick with the fixed budget.
Exactly, because sticking with the fixed budget can actually go a very long way. This are the most important thing in gambling because it will definitely help you to gamble responsibly without getting caught up in gambling so we should try and stick with discipline while gambling since we can not afford to beat the casino.

Just that most gamblers are unpredictable because it's obvious that chasing losses won't going to get a win for you, rather it will still result to more losses at the end of the day so it's better to maintain a fixed amount and stop when you are not getting it correctly.

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Today at 07:53:16 AM
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Fixed bankroll = self limit. This sounds less important, but very impactful. Yeah i admit having money sitting in our wallet is bad when we're an addicted gamblers. We would use it even if we know we would be losing it all.

So when we're running out of budget for gambling. We will remember if we should not being so careless with money. It's also slowly, but surely help us to receover from being addicted.

Other than that it's also helping to re-allocate our free time used for gambling to the escapist activity such as playing video games, gym or etc cuz we have no money to gamble with.


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Today at 07:54:50 AM
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You explain the cycle of how we start, lose, and then empty the wallet in a very practical and easy way. What happens is that when we don't set any limits, it feels like a horse that has no reins and bridle, and it runs without stopping. The same happens when we don't separate the funds for gambling, you will never know how much you have spent, nor will you know the exact point to stop. Every bet will result in a loss, and you will think that you can win on the next bet, but that will not happen.

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Today at 08:10:42 AM
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So for me, having a fixed budget does not guarantee that you will never chase losses, but it definitely helps control it. Without a clear budget, it is too easy to gamble based on emotion and keep increasing bets just because the money is still there. Sometimes the problem is not only losing, but not being clear from the beginning. We have to know our goal before we start. Otherwise we end up turning any available money into gambling money, and that is usually where chasing losses begins.

Nah, money is not the problem, unless you're broke. The main problem is yourself. If you cannot control yourself or you're not disciplined enough to handle your finances, you will always end up over spending and of course chase those losses, no matter how much budget you allocate for gambling, especially that depositing is very accessible nowadays, if the main goal is for profits, it will almost be inevitable not to chase losses.
So, budget allocation alone won't really work, it does also need self discipline.

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Today at 10:02:55 AM
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Imho there is no need to create fixed budget, but instead its better to train self control. Fixed budget works only until person catches some luck and success, and greed kicks in. Then fixed budget turns into another amount I can spend while trying to win. Those who stay with fixed budget often find some extra money (for exampled they have saved or get a bonus) that they later use to gamble. That breaks whole idea of fixed budget.  People also tend to earn more, win and later adjust budget. Then what kind of fixed budget it is?

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Today at 01:39:44 PM
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So for me, having a fixed budget does not guarantee that you will never chase losses, but it definitely helps control it. Without a clear budget, it is too easy to gamble based on emotion and keep increasing bets just because the money is still there. Sometimes the problem is not only losing, but not being clear from the beginning. We have to know our goal before we start. Otherwise we end up turning any available money into gambling money, and that is usually where chasing losses begins.

Nah, money is not the problem, unless you're broke. The main problem is yourself. If you cannot control yourself or you're not disciplined enough to handle your finances, you will always end up over spending and of course chase those losses, no matter how much budget you allocate for gambling, especially that depositing is very accessible nowadays, if the main goal is for profits, it will almost be inevitable not to chase losses.
So, budget allocation alone won't really work, it does also need self discipline.

Well said! The player themselves are the problem with their finances.Less experienced players think that even if they lose, they can make a new deposit and win it back, and so on until they're all spent. But a more experienced player only plays with a pre-set amount and, no matter the result, won't make another deposit. Stop means stop.

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Today at 02:13:08 PM
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Having a fixed budget helps, but what helps more is sticking with that fixed budget. People can make calculations based on the money they have and allocate a certain amount for gambling, but it all changes immediately when they start losing; they are no longer able to control themselves and stick to it, so one thing I will say helps more is self-discipline to make you stick with the fixed budget.
Exactly, because sticking with the fixed budget can actually go a very long way. This are the most important thing in gambling because it will definitely help you to gamble responsibly without getting caught up in gambling so we should try and stick with discipline while gambling since we can not afford to beat the casino.

Just that most gamblers are unpredictable because it's obvious that chasing losses won't going to get a win for you, rather it will still result to more losses at the end of the day so it's better to maintain a fixed amount and stop when you are not getting it correctly.
Having a fixed budget for gambling promotes the highest level of discipline when it comes gambling responsibly and getting out of gambling addiction, the ability to stick to the plan is highly demanding because most people can get carried away by emotion and get along to gamble above their budgets, that is to say having a gambling budget is one thing and sticking to it is another very important thing infact the most important, you just have to call it a day when you have exhausted your budget regardless of your present condition, chasing losses can be addictive which is bad.

 
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Today at 02:37:24 PM
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There is no need to chase what you can afford to lose, because the money is just too little for your concern, isn't it? People only chase what they have lost because they aren't ready to lose the money in the first place, fixed budget can be something you aren't ready to lose, just because it's fixed doesn't mean you are ready to lose the money, if you are using fixed amount, make sure it's what you can afford to lose.
Some gamblers don't have any amount they risk on gambling, it all depends on the amount they can afford every week, some gamblers have different type of jobs that brings in high and low income based on time, sales and other things, someone who can afford to lose 20 this week can afford to lose 40 in the week time.
It's wrong to allocate to gambling an amount you cannot afford to lose. When you are budgeting, you allocate a certain amount to all your expenses over a period of time. Of course, people would have to gamble based on their income. To some gamblers, $1,000 is an amount they can afford to lose. While to another gambler, this amount is more than their monthly income.

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You explain the cycle of how we start, lose, and then empty the wallet in a very practical and easy way. What happens is that when we don't set any limits, it feels like a horse that has no reins and bridle, and it runs without stopping. The same happens when we don't separate the funds for gambling, you will never know how much you have spent, nor will you know the exact point to stop. Every bet will result in a loss, and you will think that you can win on the next bet, but that will not happen.

For me, allocating budget for every session can help in chasing your losses. And at the same time, you should be disciplined enough not to further deposit if you already busted your allocated budget. It means, you need to stop for that day and just go back when you have extra. So for me, discipline and allotted budget would help you in avoiding chasing losses.

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Today at 03:01:23 PM
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So for me, having a fixed budget does not guarantee that you will never chase losses, but it definitely helps control it.

Having a fixed budget will help gamblers try not to go over the limit. We have a limit to the amount we can risk, and even if we eventually lose, we don’t need to worry about having financial problems. The challenge is how we try to be consistent with a fixed gambling budget, which may affect your enjoyment of gambling.

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Having a fixed budget is good if a person can follow the rule he gave to himself. This stands together with self-control. I have seen people who have said that they have a fixed budget, but from time to time, they feel like they are about to win, or they havent played enough for today, so they add more money. If someone ask me if fixed budget is a good way to avoid chasing losses, then I will say no. Ask long a person has access to money, nothing stops him from making another deposit.

 
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On paper, it's better to have a fixed budget and treat it like your last money, but I also agree with the others that it could be useless if you don't follow through. Despite setting a budget, it's always easy to break these restrictions, and it's not enough of a solution if you can't help yourself.

Aside from not having a budget, you also need to adapt and endure the feeling of losing because you're always bound to go back if you're not used to accepting losses.

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Today at 04:33:41 PM
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So for me, having a fixed budget does not guarantee that you will never chase losses, but it definitely helps control it. Without a clear budget, it is too easy to gamble based on emotion and keep increasing bets just because the money is still there. Sometimes the problem is not only losing, but not being clear from the beginning. We have to know our goal before we start. Otherwise we end up turning any available money into gambling money, and that is usually where chasing losses begins.
a fixed budget means nothing if you dont stick to it. it does help because it gives you a direction but if you dont put your actual mind to it then you will just keep cheating on your fixed budget and it defeats the whole purpose
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Today at 04:38:17 PM
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Those who gamble will lose, it is certain. Success from gambling to winning is very rare. Only those who are lucky can win big jackpots and enjoy them. Many people cannot enjoy them even after winning big. The point of allocating a specific budget for gambling is that no matter how much you lose, it will be within your boundary that you can afford to lose. But if you do not keep a specific budget, then you will not be within any limitation while gambling. Because of this, you will not lose more than you can afford to lose, which will only be frustrating for you. That is why creating a budget for gambling is very important, but it does not help a gambler to win, it only helps his losses to be within a limit.
I think we should not dream of success from gambling, because we gamble mainly for entertainment. If someone wants to get rich quickly through gambling, it reflects a greedy mentality. It is very difficult to succeed in Gambling, and it totally depends on luck, so no one can succeed here, no matter how hard they try. Most people lose a lot of money here. Gambling is very easy to enjoy; you don't need to win big to enjoy it. Gambling is fun, so you deposit here within your affordability, even if you lose, you don't have to face any financial pressure, then gambling will be very enjoyable for you. A fixed budget is definitely very important for a gambler, because without it, you cannot control yourself. At least with a budget limit, you will try to follow it. Many people cross it because they want to chase losses.

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Based on my own experience, I think it does help.

One problem starts when you have money sitting in your wallet that you can easily use for casino deposits. Since there is no exact amount prepared for gambling, it becomes easy to just keep adding more. At first you put in a small amount, then you lose, then you deposit again and raise the bet trying to recover what you already lost. Then if that loses too, you go even bigger. In the end, the whole money in the wallet gets drained because you were treating all of it like part of your bankroll.

I noticed that if I had just decided on one exact amount from the start and treated it as my real bankroll, it probably would have lasted longer. Even if I still lost, at least there was a limit. At least I was clear about how much I was really willing to risk.

So for me, having a fixed budget does not guarantee that you will never chase losses, but it definitely helps control it. Without a clear budget, it is too easy to gamble based on emotion and keep increasing bets just because the money is still there. Sometimes the problem is not only losing, but not being clear from the beginning. We have to know our goal before we start. Otherwise we end up turning any available money into gambling money, and that is usually where chasing losses begins.
That is a powerful realization. You’ve touched on the "fungibility trap" the moment your brain stops seeing money as "rent" or "groceries" and starts seeing it as "potential betting units." When the wall between your life savings and your bankroll is thin, a single emotional session can wipe out months of hard work.
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Today at 04:45:47 PM
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On paper, it's better to have a fixed budget and treat it like your last money, but I also agree with the others that it could be useless if you don't follow through. Despite setting a budget, it's always easy to break these restrictions, and it's not enough of a solution if you can't help yourself.

Aside from not having a budget, you also need to adapt and endure the feeling of losing because you're always bound to go back if you're not used to accepting losses.
I realized all this after many years of gambling and only from my own mistakes. Now I manage my bankroll very carefully and understand that losses will happen often, because you can't just jump in and start winning. The main question for many players is how we perceive and treat these losses, how much they affect us, forcing us to make numerous additional mistakes. I've begun to approach losses more philosophically, and of course, if I exceed my daily loss limit, I immediately stop playing, because if we make another bet when we shouldn't, the game controls us, not we it.

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Today at 05:06:15 PM
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Yes, and I have no doubt about it, whoever has a fixed budget or a balance willing to lose is not only protecting their money, but is also protecting themselves emotionally. That's something I, at least, am clear about because I've tried it. But that's not all that's needed; what's needed is the discipline to do it right. If there's no discipline, the method fails and things get the same or worse.

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Today at 05:43:34 PM
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Playing randomly indeed will make the gambler lose more than what could have possibly been spare if it was a well-calculated budget since we know gambling is more of spending than actually winning something;

That's right. After some persons has luckily win two or more bets, they become overly excited and too confident not to apply the initial fixed budget that they have been using when they early started, that's the reason why they start gambling randomly with out control because they now fell they are invincible and until they have lost all their win plus their deposits, they might not realize it.

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