CHILDRENS DAY OUTREACH PROJECT.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Rruchi man posted about Charity that some of us were not informed about. It is all made up by some of his people in his town. If people are creating their own from another states and towns, this service board will only be flooded with different charity donations which is what I want to prevent.

If they like, they can continue but we have bigger communities in Nigeria and many of us from different communities are on this forum. Making this charity to be repeating 2 or 3 times in a year or more does not make any sense. Repeating it was what I against the last time and not the charity itself that time, and this is exactly what is happening.

Ok, let me see if I understand. Was last December's charity a local one? Or a global (Nigeria) one? If it was a local one there hasn't been any single charity since then, so the argument that this section is going to be flooded is provably wrong. If it was a global one I could see the point, but I would like to see more constructiveness, like "let's join efforts to make a bigger charity" which I am not seeing here.

Wiwo, I think last December's charity was quite transparent, so I understand the concerns but I don't think all charities in Nigeria are scams even if a great number of them are.

[Charles-Tim]

Ok, let me see if I understand. Was last December's charity a local one? Or a global (Nigeria) one? If it was a local one there hasn't been any single charity since then, so the argument that this section is going to be flooded is provably wrong. If it was a global one I could see the point, but I would like to see more constructiveness, like "let's join efforts to make a bigger charity" which I am not seeing here.

You still did not get my point.

In Nigeria we have North East, North West, Middle Belt, South West, South East and South South. The people that I have interacted with on this forum are people from South South, South West, South East and Middle Belt while I do not know anyone from North East and North West on this forum.

Among the one I mentioned, I know where Rruchi man is from. He began a donation and which he let us know it would be for his community which is normal. But what if people from other regions start bringing the same donation approach on this forum including me that is not from his region? Also what if people that are not from my town or state but from my region start to bring their own charity approach on this forum?

This is not a social media but a forum that you see us as one Nigeria. We need to clarify this and let you people know what is happening. There are a lot of things that before we bring to this forum, we would have done meetings like on a group on Telegram. Like when we want a local board. They want donations, they only go one side, and now they want to be repeating it. You can easily use this to know the reason Nigeria can not be a good country.

On local board, we can easily understand this.

Wiwo, I think last December's charity was quite transparent, so I understand the concerns but I don't think all charities in Nigeria are scams even if a great number of them are.

Are you sure? I think you know a lot about scam. There are people that are publicly scamming with donations in Nigeria now and it is public and police do not arrest them. A good example of the latest one is Blessing CEO or so that said he has stage 4 cancer but later she twist the whole thing because she is not having any disease and no one arrested her.

Although, I am not insinuating that this is a scam. But I prefer us not to have multiple threads about donations. Rruchi man and reputed members in his town created division already by only telling people in their town that they are close to, and segregate reputed people on other regions. And if other regions bring theirs to spam the general board, it will be unacceptable.

[Emjay24]

Among the one I mentioned, I know where Rruchi man is from. He began a donation and which he let us know it would be for his community which is normal. But what if people from other regions start bringing the same donation approach on this forum including me that is not from his region? Also what if people that are not from my town or state but from my region start to bring their own charity approach on this forum?

Every good Initiative remains good until it is sensed to be abused and I believe the people you mentioned are sensible enough not to flood here with charity donations request.
If there is any abuse so far as regards to OP's charity activities, please state it for your arguments to make sense and not keep looking like an attack on a good course like a charity. For now, it is baseless because if Rruchi man has abused the charity donations historically, then it would have been a good thing that you are preventing more abuse.
I see that Igebotz is acting as Escrow too and he is a reputable member who have acted as such in the past and delivered efficiently, or do you now discredit his involvement too?

Charity is a good thing, one I would gladly encourage and there is no way everybody would benefit from it at the same time, it is always a small group of people at a time, if you have plans to expand the scope or rotate the beneficiaries, then reach out to the organizers for a civil discussion about it.

Although, I am not insinuating that this is a scam.

If you have a suggestion as to how it would be more efficient, I'm sure Rruchi man would be willing to accommodate it, every activity can be better if it receives more recommendations than criticism and the more you stretch this, the more it looks like you're calling it a scam or you've a hidden interest in it which is not being considered.

[adultcrypto]

@Charles-Tim and @Wiwo, I have read your comments in this thread but I couldn't pick the justification for kicking against this noble project. You may claim you are not against this idea but the tone of your comments shows it all and the excuses of bringing tribalism into something like this makes me wonder if you consider humanity first before tribe or the other way round. What is life if we don't strive to give back to society and allow people benefit from the privileges we have? If Rruchi man did not do well in the last donation, I doubt he will have the courage to start this one.

Two of you are highly respected members of the Nigerian local board, you ought to support anything good that a Nigerian is doing even though your immediate family do not benefit directly but for the love of humanity. The forum is like a community where most of us spend most part of our time, when donations for Ukraine and some other flood victims in other countries were initiated, people from other countries donated as their way of supporting. Even where I work, we have donated many times to people in need all over the world. Please free your mind, don't take this life too serious because you came into this world with nothing and you will go back with nothing, support every idea that will put smile to humanity irrespective of culture and tribe. 

[Davidvictorson]

It will be a great disservice to myself if I don't make a contribution on this thread.

Donating to a noble cause should be encouraged and not attacked. And it is more disgraceful that this is coming from a fellow Nigerian.

All over the world, there are donations and fundraising going on, if you think you don't want to donate, why not encourage the effort of the individual trying to do some good instead of trying to pull the person down.

The other societal donations that were highlighted in this thread were already know to be a scam came from social media influencers with controversial and questionable society.

As you can see she is already being investigated by the Police. Maybe the person who brought it up didn't read the news.

Social media personality, Blessing Okoro, popularly known as Blessing CEO, may be in serious trouble as the police and the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission have started probing allegations of fraud and forgery levelled against her.

The Delta State Police Command confirmed that it had received a petition on the matter, while the anti-graft agency said it had started looking into the allegations of financial misconduct linked to her.

The development follows accusations that the influencer falsified a cancer diagnosis and koi used a doctored medical report to solicit donations from the public.

https://punchng.com/cancer-fraud-influencer-blessing-ceo-in-fresh-trouble/#google_vignette


I don't know what the mentality about Nigeria is but scams exist everywhere and not just in Nigeria.

Besides Nigerians are waking up and bringing up petitions against scam donations to the Police and they are being sent to jail for that.

If you don't want to donate, look away and don’t discourage others.

[SatoPrincess]

I don’t understand why there is so much argument on this thread. If you feel uncomfortable or sceptical about the project you could just ignore it or do investigations about how the previous project organised by the OP was done. And if your argument is that the charity is being done is just one part of the country, I’d ask if you truly believe it is realistic for the OP to travel to another state for charity work considering the funds that he has. There are people who need help everywhere, why would I want to stop someone from receiving that help.

[Basels]

OP, I think this is a good initiative and you mustn't be discouraged by the attitude of some of your countrymen. These things happen and it is a disservice to try discouraging people with noble intent just because your state or province wouldn't be the direct beneficiary of a project. These things happen.

There is no country without regions or provinces and it doesn't create a good impression when nations show their disunity and bias against fellow countrymen just because something good happened to them. This is the reason for genocides all over the world, whether against the Armenians, the Palestinians, Ukrainians or even the Jews.

People should just acknowledge good initiatives from others and not try to pull them down because you own community won't be benefitting. If yours don't benefit this time, it may benefit next time. AFAIK,. the OP has been very transparent in accounting for the fund that they got last time. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should try to ruin their charity project due to sectionaalism, not especially his own countrymen. Hopefully, members would overlook this distraction and give towards the project without reservations.

[Lida93]

Nobody or group has the monopoly of fund raising in any society, region or country. So far as your intentions for the funds raising are pure and genuine in line with what you pushing forward for donation then people who have the resources and are willing to donate would gladly do it, while those who doesn't have can lend a supportive voice to the course. As for those who doesn't agree with the idea they can just look away rather than trying to dissuade others from supporting to making the project a success.

Even in the Ukraine devastation due to the war with Russia there were different donations groups all from Ukraine that came up with outreach on fund raising to support the military, rebuild hospital and health infrastructures like the Ambulance - Campaign - Ukraine be it whether these fundraising were done in or outside the forum or were done by entire Ukraine in support after a close door discussions, it isn't important, what's important is how genuine It was, and same goes for any fundraising for free donations to help the helpless, homeless, orphanages or victims of any situation. I find no need for bringing regionalism, statism, and geopolitical zones divisions into a little fundraising for orphanage as this one by Rruchi man. Perhaps if some people think there should be a bigger donation than this one, then you all that are interested can later have a discussion on it and bring it to the LB and larger community for support.

[Lucius]

As someone who participated in the first event, I must admit that I find it very strange that some members of the Nigerian community are opposed to someone wanting to help children in what seems to me to be a very clear and transparent way. The OP showed all the donations and all the expenses with pictures where the children even hold signs with our BTT nicknames so no one should doubt his honesty (unless he can prove it's photoshopped).

The argument that all Nigerians will now start doing something similar is completely pointless, because there are few on the forum who have the reputation to even start something like that.

By the way, look at my avatar and personal text - three million children (most of them in Africa) get one meal a day and go to school because one man with vision to do something actually put it into action. There are people in the world who talk a lot and never do anything, and those who are very quiet but do great things.

I will of course participate in this charity.

[igebotz]

We are not saying you should not help the charity, but you can see that we Nigerians have different opinions about it, including me. You do not know us personally, so you can not just use what you called logic to judge anyone of us online.

I have spoken to few Nigerians about this, they also do not like it.

You already said your mind on the local thread yesterday, I thought that was enough? One topic, more than 10 posts from you since yesterday and they all means the same thing ( I hate the charity) - you're not interested or in support of his Charity and that's okay, now you can move on, no need to keep posting about.

I'll leave this here. Allow those that want to feed the dying children in their neighborhood to do so in good spirits.
 
Nigeria's  poverty rate hit 63% this month that's over 141 million Nigerians living in poverty.

[Charles-Tim]

You already said your mind on the local thread yesterday, I thought that was enough? One topic, more than 10 posts from you since yesterday and they all means the same thing ( I hate the charity) - you're not interested or in support of his Charity and that's okay, now you can move on, no need to keep posting about.

But that does not mean I hate charity. It is the approach that I do not like as it gets to general board. I have posted my mind and you have taught them to see it like it is tribalism. I wish we are more organislzed as people from the same nation as long as it goes to general board. I have posted my mind, anyone that wants to contribute can, but the donation was preplanned and still planned behind many people among us. That is all.

[igebotz]

You already said your mind on the local thread yesterday, I thought that was enough? One topic, more than 10 posts from you since yesterday and they all means the same thing ( I hate the charity) - you're not interested or in support of his Charity and that's okay, now you can move on, no need to keep posting about.

But that does not mean I hate charity. It is the approach that I do not like as it gets to general board. I have posted my mind and you have taught them to see it like it is tribalism. I wish we are more organislzed as people from the same nation as long as it goes to general board. I have posted my mind, anyone that wants to contribute can, but the donation was preplanned and still planned behind many people among us. That is all.

What tribalism? Oh God!!! Must you play politics with everything?

Is OP supposed to invite you or send a nice letter to inform you about running a charity on a public forum? No

We're organized and the local board loved the  first episode and donated - you were the only one against helping children in orphanages last year, today you're against feeding street children. What is your problem with children?

OP got the most donations from the General board in the last episode and you're asking him to not post this episode on the General board? It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I respect the concerns that some members of the community have, but I don’t want to get involved in any arguments. All I know is that last time I didn’t get here in time to help those children, so this time I won’t let it slip by. Here’s my 0.001 bitcoin (about $72 at current exchange rate).

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[Rruchi man]

I respect the concerns that some members of the community have, but I don’t want to get involved in any arguments. All I know is that last time I didn’t get here in time to help those children, so this time I won’t let it slip by. Here’s my 0.001 bitcoin (about $72 at current exchange rate).

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Thank you so much for this; this is much appreciated.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I respect the concerns that some members of the community have, but I don’t want to get involved in any arguments. All I know is that last time I didn’t get here in time to help those children, so this time I won’t let it slip by. Here’s my 0.001 bitcoin (about $72 at current exchange rate).

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Wow.. thanks so much for supporting this outreach with a whooping $72.. 🙏🙏

So in other not to be left out.. I have decided to also support with 0.0002 BTC, which is currently $14 at current rate. And here is my Transaction ID 👇👇

2260ff83c6913f35dd328c298ec15e79e30780aa61fb14d1c009124f7ca216a3




Please confirm it...

[Ambatman]

I wouldn't have noticed this thread if it wasn't for Free market Capitalist posting about it on meta
And I'm surprised there was a previous in our local board before.

I have read through the thread and I think I understand where Charles_Tim is coming from
Most times good intentions tend to be abused and tainted
But that shouldn't stop us from at least performing some good around.
It might not alleviate their suffering or change the ratio of poverty
But it can at least remind the children that they are not alone and there are people out there.
We can't let our paranoia or cautiousness be the reason someone would be denied some benefit
The OP isn't asking for a fixed amount nor is he forcing anyone
It's a matter of choice.






There's still time before the end. Would love to help out too.

Terrorist attacked my community last night and more than 10 close relatives whom I grow up with are killed, Currently being buried
Written with bleeding heart, herdsmen attacks!

I'm so sorry for your loss.
Security and human lives are losing value in the country.
I really hate hearing about things like this but nothing is even been done.

[Rruchi man]

So in other not to be left out.. I have decided to also support with 0.0002 BTC, which is currently $14 at current rate. And here is my Transaction ID 👇👇

2260ff83c6913f35dd328c298ec15e79e30780aa61fb14d1c009124f7ca216a3




Please confirm it...

Thank you so much for this; it is much appreciated.

[Joy_learns_crypto]

By the way, look at my avatar and personal text - three million children (most of them in Africa) get one meal a day and go to school because one man with vision to do something actually put it into action. There are people in the world who talk a lot and never do anything, and those who are very quiet but do great things.

I will of course participate in this charity.

I looked your avatar up and it is inspiring what Mary’s meal has done, their milestone is one of the most inspiring part of it all, from trying to do the very least to now three million children having a meal a day, what an inspiring story that it.
One thing I know about genuine charity that is that at the beginning it may seem small but what can be achieved in a year or few months could inspire people.

About this children’s day out reach I think it is good, not many children get be celebrated or remembered at anytime in the year, the children’s day idea is positive and a chance to put smile on a child’s face. Everyone may have different opinion about it as they are entitled to have an opinion, but the message about reaching out to children on their day is a good one, I hope the intent that a child could benefit help put aside differences.

[Majestic-milf]

I wouldn't have noticed this thread if it wasn't for Free market Capitalist posting about it on meta
And I'm surprised there was a previous in our local board before.

I have read through the thread and I think I understand where Charles_Tim is coming from
Most times good intentions tend to be abused and tainted
But that shouldn't stop us from at least performing some good around.
It might not alleviate their suffering or change the ratio of poverty
But it can at least remind the children that they are not alone and there are people out there.
We can't let our paranoia or cautiousness be the reason someone would be denied some benefit
The OP isn't asking for a fixed amount nor is he forcing anyone
It's a matter of choice.

I also agree and understand where Charles is coming from. It's normal behavior for people to take up something and make it a trend when proper rules or a foot is not put down especially from where I'm from. I appreciate the work of Ruchi because he's not just feeling the plight and pain of these poor children, he's also reaching out to help, even though he is trying to enlist the help of others as well in the area of donations, I truly appreciate you Op but if we take into consideration where Charles-Tim is coming from, he's just trying to avoid abuse being that he's a Nigerian and as a Nigerian myself, I know how things like this can escalate. Good effort and honesty becomes abused and before you know it we'd begin seeing threads that are for begging purposes but will be masqueraded as charity.
 Charles, the first edition of this event was held successfully and the donors were thanked, I don't see any reason why one needs to be scared now. I mean, there are very smart people here who can tell when someone is just being plain greedy from honest ones and even though this forum is meant for something else entirely, let those who want to donate voluntarily do it because you are trying too hard to make them understand that you are not against this act by Ruchi. Personally, it looks like you're just being too sentimental about this beyond what's supposed to be reasonable. Please if you won't participate, don't stress it..

[Sexylizzy2813]

I posted that this may continue last year and it continued. Are we the only country that our kids need help? I think this should not be beyond local board, but you noticed you were unable to get contribution on the local board the last time and you later brought it to general board. I am highly disappointed to see this kind of topic. Other countries are not creating this kind of topic, but why are we just different.

CT people from some other places not come here and see this place as a battle ground. For this issue, in as much as some of us do things that are wrong and we all come out to correct that person, I'd say this particular idea is a very good one and is even better than what some of not all our politicians are doing. I expect you to support this guy's idea on this project at hand and if there's something you feel you don't like about this movement is best you DM him but since some of us hardly reply DMs then it can't work out (I think). Using the word disappointed seems like the OP is doing something bad or something that isn't suppose to be but checking at all he said is a good project so why make it look like is a joke? The outreach will help a lot of children and I feel like becoming a child again that's if the outreach will reach me.
We should support each other to grow especially on this type of things that speak good about the Forum the person doing it too. And another thing, Nigeria is not the only poor country and other country people in this Forum may not be doing all these charity stuff but they can come here see this very post and even start doing it on their own country, this isn't about being a poor country but to help the needy, the poor ones will appreciate this move... Many people can also learn from what Rruchi man, please and please don't underestimate the little someone is doing in as much as the idea doesn't fit your own requirements.