♻️ Tomboi - no KYC/AML exchange with XMR, Tor support | $10,000 escrow

[TokenTikas]

The reason I chose to use an existing account was mainly practical — to be able to properly present the service (including signature and formatting), since new accounts have strict limitations in that regard.

I'm not sure if you have thought about the kind of problems you have faced with this account and may continue to face in the future. No matter what you do, you will not be able to speak freely with this account and you will always have to operate within certain limits. There are many rules in the forum but real account owners can move more freely within those rules, while you may not have that same level of freedom.

Just think about this, you are trying to build trust again by working hard here, but if you had simply created your own account and started your project with a copper membership, you would not need to go through this process of trying to prove yourself to others. Anyway, you are continuing this way and trying to do something good, so acknowledge your effort. If the real owner comes back later and reports it, there may be nothing you can do about it.

[tomboi]

The reason I chose to use an existing account was mainly practical — to be able to properly present the service (including signature and formatting), since new accounts have strict limitations in that regard.

I'm not sure if you have thought about the kind of problems you have faced with this account and may continue to face in the future. No matter what you do, you will not be able to speak freely with this account and you will always have to operate within certain limits. There are many rules in the forum but real account owners can move more freely within those rules, while you may not have that same level of freedom.

Just think about this, you are trying to build trust again by working hard here, but if you had simply created your own account and started your project with a copper membership, you would not need to go through this process of trying to prove yourself to others. Anyway, you are continuing this way and trying to do something good, so acknowledge your effort. If the real owner comes back later and reports it, there may be nothing you can do about it.

I’ve already realized this, but unfortunately we’ve already made deposits escrow from this account, named the exchange accordingly, and listed it in various directories. Unfortunately, by the time I realized I’d made a mistake, it was too late, and now it’s difficult to change anything.

In any case, thank you for taking the time to explain the possible consequences to us in your comment, showing an understanding of our situation.

[cLoazyL]

Is Tomboi affiliated with Sageswap? Do you use their API AML? It looks like you have similar trading pairs, fees, and the output is Monero only

[tomboi]

Is Tomboi affiliated with Sageswap? Do you use their API AML? It looks like you have similar trading pairs, fees, and the output is Monero only

No, we are not affiliated with Sageswap and do not use their API.

[MisFoxie]

Out of curiosity I made a swap and I'm satisfied. For testing purpose I only use 10.1$ usdc (BNB chain) for swap And I received 10$ worth of BNB in an instant. The total fee it is 0.1$ which is tolerable.

[Potato Chips]

I like this new feature for those who need it. I would always recommend your receiving address to be on your personal wallet though.



I would suggest to make the checkbox more noticeable though. At first, I couldn't see the check box as it really blends well in the black background. I was trying to find the option for some minutes LOL.

[hugeblack]

I like this new feature for those who need it. I would always recommend your receiving address to be on your personal wallet though.

Good update, and if the fees are low, I think the platform will provide an ideal option for those interested in AML.

@Tomboi.io Are these withdrawals part of your liquidity pool, or are you using APIs for other liquidity providers, or are you using your own personal accounts? And what would happen if CEX decided to block your withdrawal request?

[MisFoxie]

@Tomboi.io Are these withdrawals part of your liquidity pool, or are you using APIs for other liquidity providers, or are you using your own personal accounts? And what would happen if CEX decided to block your withdrawal request?

I hope they didn't used any APIs of other platform because if a platform restricted widthraw after receiving crypto @Tomboi.io have to give compensation from their own pocket


I'm not going to use Cex exchange option, when i check it the minimum exchange amount increase to 1000 usdt while fee also increase to 1.9%. I prefer normal exchange 

[Potato Chips]

I'm not going to use Cex exchange option, when i check it the minimum exchange amount increase to 1000 usdt while fee also increase to 1.9%. I prefer normal exchange 

Darn, I did not notice the sky high minimum exchange amount when I checked yesterday. They should lower the amount, otherwise it would be inaccessible to a lot of people and/or use cases.

Is there any reason why the minimum amount is at $1K @tomboi? if there is a risk of blocking from the exchange's end, wouldn't a higher amount increase the said risk? 🤔

[hugeblack]

I hope they didn't used any APIs of other platform because if a platform restricted widthraw after receiving crypto @Tomboi.io have to give compensation from their own pocket

I've checked now and I hope there's a mistake, but these incomplete updates could harm the service.

@Tomboi.io It's best to focus on the basic steps and create updates in the beta section before releasing them.

[examplens]

I'm not going to use Cex exchange option, when i check it the minimum exchange amount increase to 1000 usdt while fee also increase to 1.9%. I prefer normal exchange 

Darn, I did not notice the sky high minimum exchange amount when I checked yesterday. They should lower the amount, otherwise it would be inaccessible to a lot of people and/or use cases.

Is there any reason why the minimum amount is at $1K @tomboi? if there is a risk of blocking from the exchange's end, wouldn't a higher amount increase the said risk? 🤔

$1k is the minimum only if you choose the CEX exchange transfers option (there is a checkbox), otherwise, regular use is a $30 minimum amount.

btw. @tomboi, you should emphasize this checkbox better, it is very hard to notice. Black on a black background, with a very thin gray frame. I recognized him quite by chance.

[tomboi]

Hello everyone,

Thank you for the detailed feedback. I will answer all the CEX-related points in one post, because the discussion is mainly about the same update.

1. About the checkbox visibility

You are absolutely right: the checkbox is not noticeable enough at the moment.

The option itself is useful, but the current visual implementation is too easy to miss, especially because it sits on a dark background with a very subtle frame. That is not the experience we want users to have.

We will improve this in the nearest update. The CEX transfer option will be made much more visible: a clearer checkbox, stronger contrast, a better explanatory block, and a more obvious indication that this is an optional mode with different limits and fees.

So yes, this feedback is accepted and already goes into our UI update queue.

2. About CEX withdrawals, safety, and blocking risk

CEX withdrawals are not processed through a simple public API connection to one exchange.

We also do not conduct KYC or AML checks on our clients, so we do not use client funds directly for trading on CEX instead, we maintain a pre-prepared pool of high-quality funds.

If our funds are ever frozen on a centralized exchange (CEX), the client’s funds will be returned without delay, and our company - not the client - will assume responsibility for resolving the matter with the exchange.

So from the user side, this option is designed to provide a higher-quality receiving flow for those who specifically need coins coming from a CEX source.

At the same time, we still recommend using your own personal wallet as the receiving address whenever possible. The CEX option is not meant to replace normal exchange usage for everyone. It is a special optional mode for users who need this exact type of output.

3. About the $1,000 minimum and the higher fee

The higher minimum and the higher fee are not arbitrary.

This is a different level of liquidity and operational work compared to a standard instant exchange. It requires:

• manual processing;
• reserved liquidity;
• additional operational risk management;
• higher-quality source flow;

That is why the CEX transfer option currently has a $1,000 minimum and a higher service fee.

For regular exchange mode, the minimum remains much lower. The higher minimum applies only when the user explicitly selects the CEX transfer option.

We understand that $1,000 may be too high for some users and use cases. We will monitor demand and operational stability, and if we can safely lower the minimum later without reducing the quality of the service, we will consider doing so.

4. About emphasizing the update better

This is also fair criticism.

We should have highlighted this update more clearly in the ANN and in the exchange interface. A feature like this changes the logic, limits, and fee structure for one of the available modes, so it deserves a more visible explanation.

We will update the ANN post and the interface text so users can immediately understand:

• CEX transfer is optional;
• normal exchange mode still has a lower minimum;
• CEX transfer has a higher minimum and fee;
• the option is intended for users who specifically need a CEX-source receiving flow.

Thanks again to everyone who pointed this out. The feature itself is important, but the way it was presented should be improved, and we will fix that.

[tomboi]

Hello everyone,

We would like to share a short update regarding Tomboi.

After reviewing our current product direction and the latest functionality we are adding, we have decided to move our main forum activity from Bitcointalk to another forum platform.

This is not a negative step for us. On the contrary, Tomboi continues to grow, expand, and move toward a stronger product model. However, our updated format no longer fully fits the current Bitcointalk policy framework, so we believe it is better and more transparent to continue our development in a forum environment that is more suitable for this direction.

Our escrow deposit remains safe and unchanged. The funds are still held by Little Mouse, who is also represented on the new forum, so there is no change in the security side of the campaign.

We want to sincerely thank everyone on Bitcointalk who followed, reviewed, criticized, supported, and helped us improve Tomboi. Your feedback was valuable, and we appreciate the time and attention this community gave us.

Tomboi is not stopping. We are moving forward, improving the service, and preparing the next stage of our growth.

Thank you everyone, and see you in our new forum thread.

[hugeblack]

Tomboi is not stopping. We are moving forward, improving the service, and preparing the next stage of our growth.

Thank you everyone, and see you in our new forum thread.

It is unfortunate to see such decisions. The forum is the best place for those who want to grow, as views rates are higher than any other forums. I wish you success.

[salad daging]

Tomboi is not stopping. We are moving forward, improving the service, and preparing the next stage of our growth.

Thank you everyone, and see you in our new forum thread.

It is unfortunate to see such decisions. The forum is the best place for those who want to grow, as views rates are higher than any other forums. I wish you success.

Yep, I'm sure the traffic on bitcointalk forum is higher than other forums only it's no longer in line because now Tomboi has a mixer feature on their platform.
I know I want to go further because I have a bigger mission, I can only hope for continued success, so it's better to lock this thread.

[uchegod-21]

Tomboi is not stopping. We are moving forward, improving the service, and preparing the next stage of our growth.

Thank you everyone, and see you in our new forum thread.

It is unfortunate to see such decisions. The forum is the best place for those who want to grow, as views rates are higher than any other forums. I wish you success.

Yep, I'm sure the traffic on bitcointalk forum is higher than other forums only it's no longer in line because now Tomboi has a mixer feature on their platform.
I know I want to go further because I have a bigger mission, I can only hope for continued success, so it's better to lock this thread.

Just what I wanted to ask. If they have a mixer feature in their platform. This is likely the only reason that will push them out of this large audience that Bitcointalk provides.

@tomboi, I have been reading to see where mixer features were mentioned but could not. What if I suggest that you should handle your exchange differently from other features (mixer). You can still launch mixers separately in the other forum. It will be nice than exiting here totally.

[TokenTikas]

It is unfortunate to see such decisions. The forum is the best place for those who want to grow, as views rates are higher than any other forums.

Altcointalks forum is often called a second home, but most of its active members are actually from bitcointalk. tomboi probably already knows that many bitcointalk users are basically teleporting there and running accounts, which is why the number of completely new users there is quite low.

If he is thinking about traffic, then the more authentic traffic will definitely come from bitcointalk, while the so-called second home doesn’t really bring in much new audience. Maybe tomboi is not fully aware of these things and that could be why he is still continuing advertisement ANN thread activities over there.

[examplens]

Yep, I'm sure the traffic on bitcointalk forum is higher than other forums only it's no longer in line because now Tomboi has a mixer feature on their platform.
I know I want to go further because I have a bigger mission, I can only hope for continued success, so it's better to lock this thread.

Just what I wanted to ask. If they have a mixer feature in their platform. This is likely the only reason that will push them out of this large audience that Bitcointalk provides.

@tomboi, I have been reading to see where mixer features were mentioned but could not. What if I suggest that you should handle your exchange differently from other features (mixer). You can still launch mixers separately in the other forum. It will be nice than exiting here totally.

The mixer feature is related to a completely separate domain, although it is obvious that the Tomboi team manages both services (exchange & mixer).
Although they did not break the mixer rule on Btt for a single moment, it is a respectable decision to transfer the main activities to another forum so as not to be in conflict with the rules here. I'm sure most would manipulate this "loophole in the rule" and remain primarily here.

[uchegod-21]

The mixer feature is related to a completely separate domain, although it is obvious that the Tomboi team manages both services (exchange & mixer).
Although they did not break the mixer rule on Btt for a single moment, it is a respectable decision to transfer the main activities to another forum so as not to be in conflict with the rules here. I'm sure most would manipulate this "loophole in the rule" and remain primarily here.

This act of theirs shows a high degree of credibility. I was just surprised they are leaving because I visited their website and it wasn't a mixer.
I believe they made the right decision in their interest and that of the forum. Their presence is still here since their Ann is still here.
In the future we could have them completely back here.

[examplens]

This act of theirs shows a high degree of credibility. I was just surprised they are leaving because I visited their website and it wasn't a mixer.
I believe they made the right decision in their interest and that of the forum. Their presence is still here since their Ann is still here.
In the future we could have them completely back here.

Above the swap widget, you have a tab that leads to the mixer. Mixer is on another domain, so it can only be considered as a banner to another service. According to the current Bitcointalk mixer ban rule, this does not lead to a ban on Tumboi on this forum.
Given that they later added the option that you can request funds from CEX, it seems that in some way this service is focused on "cleaning" coins. This can open various discussions here that might be against the rules of the forum, so choosing another place as the basic one for discussion is a logical choice.