How can a poster with 10 merits and 47 posts give me negative trust?

[Rating Place]

Is there a way to take trust down from rollinsweet? He signed up January 2025, has 10 merits and 47 posts. The trust recently changed from untrusted to trusted.

        
        rollinsweet   2026-03-27      This guy need some mental help, retarded at all point 

[Kazkaz27]

Good luck, I got a bunch of negative trust by a group of coordinated DT1s and their armies of alt accounts. Many of the alts never even posted or hardly spent more than an hour on the forum. They were made just to paint me red. I reached out to admins/Mods. They won’t do a thing about it even though it’s clearly trust abuse.

[Hazink]

The guy in question is DT2 member , maybe why the trust changed from untrusted to trusted should be because the user judgment was recently trusted by a DT1 member: https://loyce.club/trust/2026-04-25_Sat_05.18h/3683961.html

[Rating Place]

It now makes sense. It was holydarkness.

[Kazkaz27]

The guy in question is DT2 member , maybe why the trust changed from untrusted to trusted should be because the user judgment was recently trusted by a DT1 member: https://loyce.club/trust/2026-04-25_Sat_05.18h/3683961.html

lol, 10 merits and 47 posts but because he is trusted by DT1 makes him DT2. Shows how easily DT1’s can rig the system.

Easy for them to keep/gain status. Make accounts with privilege and trust. As well as burn reputations of others.

I’m distrusting them both.

~holydarkness
~rollinsweet

[Rating Place]

It now makes sense. It was holydarkness.

and holy trusted him after it was untrusted. I only have one other negative in untrusted. This would mean that untrusted could be moved to negative trusted if holy goes and puts him on his trust list. Maybe I’m misunderstanding it.

[Kazkaz27]

It now makes sense. It was holydarkness.

and holy trusted him after it was untrusted. I only have one other negative in untrusted. This would mean that untrusted could be moved to negative trusted if holy goes and puts him on his trust list. Maybe I’m misunderstanding it.

Holy bumped him up. Made rollinsweet’s “trust” more valid by adding him to his own trust list. Probably just to spite you and make more default trust make you look bad. You’re getting it.

[holydarkness]

It now makes sense. It was holydarkness.

I recently updated my trust list and add few members on trial basis, yes. I do that every now and then, monitoring their performance and judgment capability. I don't know if it is wrong? I follow Loyce's guide to the dots on both feedback and trustlist,

[...]
Don't confuse your Trust list with feedback
Trust feedback: leave feedback to people you trust or don't trust. Or leave neutral comments.
Trust list: a list of people whose judgement on others you trust (username) or don't trust (~username).

[...]
Trust feedback
Trust feedback (Positive/Neutral/Negative) can be used to express your opinion about someone's trustworthiness. In other words: would you trust or have you trusted this user with your money?

[...]
Negative (shown as -1)

• If you believe someone is a scammer, or someone is likely to scam, that deserves negative feedback. Please provide evidence.
• If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

I left negative trust on you upon your clear sign of incapability to being neutral, self-admitting to peer-pressuring sportsbook into paying players with your outdated knowledge of how provider works, and thus likely scam our forum members [the casinos].

I add him to my trust list as I am updating and adding names on trial-basis and I think he left an accurate feedback.

Did I violate the guideline in any way?

[Rating Place]

It now makes sense. It was holydarkness.

I recently updated my trust list and add few members on trial basis, yes. I do that every now and then, monitoring their performance and judgment capability. I don't know if it is wrong? I follow Loyce's guide to the dots on both feedback and trustlist,

[...]
Don't confuse your Trust list with feedback
Trust feedback: leave feedback to people you trust or don't trust. Or leave neutral comments.
Trust list: a list of people whose judgement on others you trust (username) or don't trust (~username).

[...]
Trust feedback
Trust feedback (Positive/Neutral/Negative) can be used to express your opinion about someone's trustworthiness. In other words: would you trust or have you trusted this user with your money?

[...]
Negative (shown as -1)

• If you believe someone is a scammer, or someone is likely to scam, that deserves negative feedback. Please provide evidence.
• If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

I left negative trust on you upon your clear sign of incapability to being neutral, self-admitting to peer-pressuring sportsbook into paying players with your outdated knowledge of how provider works, and thus likely scam our forum members [the casinos].

I add him to my trust list as I am updating and adding names on trial-basis and I think he left an accurate feedback.

Did I violate the guideline in any way?

holy, you are continuing the argument of the other thread. Everything you said above on how sportsbooks work is wrong. The provider is not the boss. Bad sportsbooks go with the providers warning since the book doesn’t want to review internally to save money. It just shows you are a shady person.

[Rating Place]

Is there anything that can be done to take rollinsweet trust down?

[Kazkaz27]

Is there anything that can be done to take rollinsweet trust down?

Beg an admin. Goodluck.—they don’t regulate the trust network and if they do it’s extremely rare. They are off hands because they don’t want to “abuse” the trust network.—They prefer others do that. 💀

[holydarkness]

holy, you are continuing the argument of the other thread. Everything you said above on how sportsbooks work is wrong. It just shows you are a shady person.

Well, you've entered the casual binding agreement with me with "I take the bait", all we need to do right now is for you to fulfill your end of agreement by escrowing 1,560,000 USD and I will show you, in abundance, that everything I said above [and beyond] about how sportsbook is not wrong, and that you're quite likely too narrow minded to learn new lessons and seek reference.

If I am shady, then you can easily disprove me and put my shady activity into light, thus make the forum distrust me by escrowing the fund. That's the agreement: you stake money and I stake my reputation. Upon beyond reasonable doubt that that I am wrong, I will invite every DT to distrust me and strip me from my DT status, as my judment clearly [in case I am wrong], can't be trusted.

That simple.

[OgNasty]

The trust network is in shambles. It went from being something you could rely on for big dollar trades to something that is not only completely useless, but actually leads you to trust the untrustworthy. It’s getting worse too, not better. That is why this once great site continues to fall down the hole of irrelevancy.

[JollyGood]

If I may make a comment here. It is not directed just in your case but in the general sense for all feedback that has been given. What are members reading the feedback supposed to conclude if there is no reference link?

If members leave trust, there really should be some substance to it. I cannot understand why the rollinsweet account did not even bother to leave a reference. If he was going to go through the process of giving you the negative tag he should have provided either greater context or at least a reference link to support his tag.

Is there a way to take trust down from rollinsweet? He signed up January 2025, has 10 merits and 47 posts. The trust recently changed from untrusted to trusted.

        
        rollinsweet   2026-03-27      This guy need some mental help, retarded at all point 

[Kazkaz27]

holy, you are continuing the argument of the other thread. Everything you said above on how sportsbooks work is wrong. It just shows you are a shady person.

Well, you've entered the casual binding agreement with me with "I take the bait", all we need to do right now is for you to fulfill your end of agreement by escrowing 1,560,000 USD and I will show you, in abundance, that everything I said above [and beyond] about how sportsbook is not wrong, and that you're quite likely too narrow minded to learn new lessons and seek reference.

If I am shady, then you can easily disprove me and put my shady activity into light, thus make the forum distrust me by escrowing the fund. That's the agreement: you stake money and I stake my reputation. Upon beyond reasonable doubt that that I am wrong, I will invite every DT to distrust me and strip me from my DT status, as my judment clearly [in case I am wrong], can't be trusted.

That simple.

Nice front. DT1’s will protect you and you know it.

[holydarkness]

Nice front. DT1’s will protect you and you know it.

Umm... no. If I may propose, your sight and opinion about DT are too biased and myopic. We're not a gang who gather every Summer Solstice, dancing around the three and a sacrifical goose. We're individuals with our own mindset and logic. One DT won't support other DT by default just because we're both on DT.

As evidenced, JollyGood is on DT1 too, you see where he commented each and every cases of Rating Place in favor of me? No. He gave his neutral opinion. If you broaden your lens a bit and walk around the forum, you'll see DT1 are opposing each other as they have different opinion.

[Kazkaz27]

Nice front. DT1’s will protect you and you know it.

Umm... no. If I may propose, your sight and opinion about DT are too biased and myopic. We're not a gang who gather every Summer Solstice, dancing around the three and a sacrifical goose. We're individuals with our own mindset and logic. One DT won't support other DT by default just because we're both on DT.

As evidenced, JollyGood is on DT1 too, you see where he commented each and every cases of Rating Place in favor of me? No. He gave his neutral opinion. If you broaden your lens a bit and walk around the forum, you'll see DT1 are opposing each other as they have different opinion.

I’m generalizing while you highlight the exceptions. In general, you’ll be safeguarded. I’d be shocked if the DT1s strip you of your status — though they probably should. It’s quite obvious that you’re trying to discredit your competition by issuing him a negative review and piling on with your influence, despite no actual loss on Rating Place’s side.

[Rating Place]

Any other methods available to remove trust from a guy with 10 merits?

[holydarkness]

Nice front. DT1’s will protect you and you know it.

Umm... no. If I may propose, your sight and opinion about DT are too biased and myopic. We're not a gang who gather every Summer Solstice, dancing around the three and a sacrifical goose. We're individuals with our own mindset and logic. One DT won't support other DT by default just because we're both on DT.

As evidenced, JollyGood is on DT1 too, you see where he commented each and every cases of Rating Place in favor of me? No. He gave his neutral opinion. If you broaden your lens a bit and walk around the forum, you'll see DT1 are opposing each other as they have different opinion.

I’m generalizing while you point out oddities. In general you’ll be safeguarded. I’ll be shocked if DT1’s strip you of your status given that they probably should.

TBH, I am not even sure I am safeguarded. I don't think other DT [1 or 2] ever heard my name unless they're roaming SA. I'd like to think the only DTs that know me are the ones who frequenting SA, that if I request them to remove me from their trust list because I took a wager, lost, and paid the wager in that form, they'll comply, as enforcing save and fair environment on the forum is DTs duty. That's why I gave my reputation as my wager, because I am quite sure I have no safety net.

Let me even raise the stake: I'll write PM to theymos to exclude me from DT1 [yes, it's an option] montly random selection. Rating Place?

Any other methods available to remove trust from a guy with 10 merits?

Either convince other DT1 to ~ him because he made inaccurate feedback [you'll need >1 in any direction] or you convince the one who trusted his feedback  to withdraw him from trustlist because his feedback wasn't as accurate as the other DT who trusted his feedback think.

[Kazkaz27]

Nice front. DT1’s will protect you and you know it.

Umm... no. If I may propose, your sight and opinion about DT are too biased and myopic. We're not a gang who gather every Summer Solstice, dancing around the three and a sacrifical goose. We're individuals with our own mindset and logic. One DT won't support other DT by default just because we're both on DT.

As evidenced, JollyGood is on DT1 too, you see where he commented each and every cases of Rating Place in favor of me? No. He gave his neutral opinion. If you broaden your lens a bit and walk around the forum, you'll see DT1 are opposing each other as they have different opinion.

I’m generalizing while you point out oddities. In general you’ll be safeguarded. I’ll be shocked if DT1’s strip you of your status given that they probably should.

TBH, I am not even sure I am safeguarded. I don't think other DT [1 or 2] ever heard my name unless they're roaming SA. I'd like to think the only DTs that know me are the ones who frequenting SA, that if I request them to remove me from their trust list because I took a wager, lost, and paid the wager in that form, they'll comply, as enforcing save and fair environment on the forum is DTs duty. That's why I gave my reputation as my wager, because I am quite sure I have no safety net.

Let me even raise the stake: I'll write PM to theymos to exclude me from DT1 [yes, it's an option] montly random selection. Rating Place?

Any other methods available to remove trust from a guy with 10 merits?

Either convince other DT1 to ~ him because he made inaccurate feedback [you'll need >1 in any direction] or you convince the one who trusted his feedback  to withdraw him from trustlist because his feedback wasn't as accurate as the other DT who trusted his feedback think.

You do come off very reasonable. I can’t help but appreciate that. Theymos will probably ingore whatever this is. You could do one better. Change the negative rating you gave Rating Place into a neutral rating and distrust or remove the user with only 10 merits and 47 posts from your trust list.