rby alternative account KingsDen?

[lovesmayfamilis]

May we ask for an explanation from the @KingsDen account about their use of the wallet that previously belonged to the @rby account?

The last time @rby used this address was 20/08/2023



https://bitlist.co/address/bc1qnfyc2tpvhn9wzwxn6kenpxd3vrfg7aktm8dazx

KingsDen submitted an application for participation in the company's signature 19.10.2023 (it still exists) with the wallet number of the rby account.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hnZMPxqTzuihU8iIFpDsa4z75FAh9LWTsP3pJxC-DGA/edit?gid=833212643#gid=833212643

Bitcointalk username: KingsDen
Bitcointalk Rank: Hero member
Lifetime earned merit: 931
Bech32 address: bc1qnfyc2tpvhn9wzwxn6kenpxd3vrfg7aktm8dazx

Applying again because I was at the top of the reserve list of the Review #1. Thanks

https://bitlist.co/search?topic_id=5470952&limit=20&page=6

As you know, this account had a rather complicated history, after which it received a negative tag, and it did not belong to the real owner. But when registering in the signature of the company for which KingsDen applied, rby did not apply so that it could be taken into account (as we previously assumed) that this was NOT a random copying.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=239997

It is noteworthy that rby left his last post on the day of the application for the signature of the company in which KingsDen was registered, namely 19/10/2023

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=239997;sa=showPosts

Username: Rby
Current Post Count: 363
BTC SegWit address: bc1qnfyc2tpvhn9wzwxn6kenpxd3vrfg7aktm8dazx

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[JollyGood]

I was going to create a thread about the "rby" account on a completely different matter altogether. I will still try to create it within a few days.

Keeping that aside, I think it has been obvious that the rby account was never going to be the only account operated by the person currently controlling it. The missing part was making a connection with other accounts and it was only going to be a matter of time.

What will the KingsDen account post about this?

What is certain about the rby account is that it is not in control of the person that created it for the Rubycoin scam and if it is, then there is a 2 BTC scam associated with it. I left appropriate feedback for that reason in 2019.

[YOSHIE]

May we ask for an explanation from the @KingsDen account about their use of the wallet that previously belonged to the @rby account?

But I see @KingsDen & @rby using that address in some of the active campaigns you've published.

Which I saw elsewhere.

Bitcointalk username: KingsDen
Bitcointalk Rank: Hero member
Lifetime earned merit: 931
Bech32 address: bc1qnfyc2tpvhn9wzwxn6kenpxd3vrfg7aktm8dazx

Applying again because I was at the top of the reserve list of the Review #1. Thanks

https://archive.vn/wip/4yyAi

Bitcointalk Username: rby
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=239997
Post Count: ..... (including this one): 308
btc addy: bc1qnfyc2tpvhn9wzwxn6kenpxd3vrfg7aktm8dazx
Forum Rank: Full Member

https://archive.vn/wip/PlQhS

To me, the proof of this is clear that both Alts are active in the campaign.


Talking about cheating, yes, both of them previously registered in the same campaign.

Proof of registration: @KingsDen

Topic: [FIN]FortuneJack.com| Signature Campaign | Sr. Members+ ~ Earn up to $100/Week!

https://archive.vn/wip/rhkCD

Proof of registration: @rby

Topic: [FIN]FortuneJack.com| Signature Campaign | Sr. Members+ ~ Earn up to $100/Week!

https://archive.vn/wip/b4Ckd

[lovesmayfamilis]

Talking about cheating, yes, both of them previously registered in the same campaign.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LUGHc5UUskr0H17fOca1_HRI-xNIsgjWyg5CJP5WiMg/edit?gid=1756217406#gid=1756217406

I see only one account that participated in this company. But maybe I'm not looking well, and I need to check the rest. Although if these are two accounts, then the @JollyGood accusation will be relevant for the second alternative account. However, I see that KingsDen is online; we can hear his version.

Now, based on the fact that many purchased accounts have recently been identified in the Nigerian section, if you check the history of the transfer of merit, you can also make sure that the account transferred merits to its locale (I don't know their relationship yet), but it's obvious which region it belonged to, just like the KingsDen account itself.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=rby

[KingsDen]

May we ask for an explanation from the @KingsDen account about their use of the wallet that previously belonged to the @rby account?

I have had a few pm with the rby guy over forum, and later off forum. I once took a loan of $200 from him and paid  back using his wallet from a review campaign and that was one time incident, a stupid decision but I didn’t think it would be a problem.

[lovesmayfamilis]

May we ask for an explanation from the @KingsDen account about their use of the wallet that previously belonged to the @rby account?

I have had a few pm with the rby guy over forum, and later off forum. I once took a loan of $200 from him and paid  back using his wallet from a review campaign and that was one time incident, a stupid decision but I didn’t think it would be a problem.

Well, that's a so-so explanation (nothing special). If I believe you, then I can believe dozens of alternative accounts that borrow money from each other here and there and return it through their wallets.
Disappointed, not original, alas.
I expected something more interesting from you, as I know your writing style, which may need to be compared with your "lender".


There is no need to write me a PM, I am not your friend, and unfortunately I no longer trust many of you.👉😵‍💫




Admit it, do you and your "creditor" wake up and change passwords in the same bed?

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=rby
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3333894


Unfortunately https://www.talkimg.com/ is not working, but everyone can just check the thumbnail

[hugeblack]

Admit it, do you and your "creditor" wake up and change passwords in the same bed?

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=rby
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3333894

This is a very strange coincidence. @KingsDen, you really need to explain what happened in detail.
since @rby is no longer active, if you bought the account or used it at some point, I think neutral trust is sufficient. Otherwise, you may bear part of the history of that account, so a full explanation would be helpful.

[JollyGood]

As far as an answer is concerned, that is absolutely not acceptable.

You claim you took a $200 loan from the rby account and repaid it. Why did it not appear in your trust? You have mentioned other financial transactions in your feedback but failed to mention the account you were conveniently sharing the same BTC address with? Can you explain?

What do you think about the trust you left for lovesmayfamilis in 2022? I presume you have not changed your opinion:

"She is a good forum user who burst scam and spam. She isn't influenced by what others think, she makes her independent unbiased judgements. I trust her for being outspoken and useful to the forum. "

May we ask for an explanation from the @KingsDen account about their use of the wallet that previously belonged to the @rby account?

I have had a few pm with the rby guy over forum, and later off forum. I once took a loan of $200 from him and paid  back using his wallet from a review campaign and that was one time incident, a stupid decision but I didn’t think it would be a problem.

[KingsDen]

You claim you took a $200 loan from the rby account and repaid it. Why did it not appear in your trust? You have mentioned other financial transactions in your feedback but failed to mention the account you were conveniently sharing the same BTC address with? Can you explain?

I had some other deals with people which did not reflect in my feedback, especially when I didn't make it public, only through forum pm and off forum. As we speak, there are two forum members that had successful deals way more than $200, and I didn't leave a feedback for it. They have just stopped communicating with me for that reason. Their argument was, if the deal went wrong I would have used the -ve tag, but since it's successful, why don't I use +ve. I just don't want to hand out too many greens without direct forum references.
@hugeblack, I think the explanation above can serve.

What do you think about the trust you left for lovesmayfamilis in 2022? I presume you have not changed your opinion:

I hardly hand out +ve, but if I do it's worth it. Lovesmayfamilis was among those that shapened me during my early days in the forum with constant criticism and corrections. I've witnessed her firm voice in some crucial matters of the forum and I trust her.

[stompix]

I had some other deals with people which did not reflect in my feedback, especially when I didn't make it public, only through forum pm and off forum. As we speak, there are two forum members that had successful deals way more than $200, and I didn't leave a feedback for it. They have just stopped communicating with me for that reason. Their argument was, if the deal went wrong I would have used the -ve tag, but since it's successful, why don't I use +ve. I just don't want to hand out too many greens without direct forum references.

Yeah, right, so....
You missed the part about the exact timing of the account, in case you actually  (like anyone believes it) did so....here is a reminder:

Admit it, do you and your "creditor" wake up and change passwords in the same bed?

So, let's hear is a coincidence, right?
Oh and btw, since people told me I'm too soft on this, I'll act first this time.

[Xiestar]

You claim you took a $200 loan from the rby account and repaid it. Why did it not appear in your trust? You have mentioned other financial transactions in your feedback but failed to mention the account you were conveniently sharing the same BTC address with? Can you explain?

I had some other deals with people which did not reflect in my feedback, especially when I didn't make it public, only through forum pm and off forum. As we speak, there are two forum members that had successful deals way more than $200, and I didn't leave a feedback for it. They have just stopped communicating with me for that reason. Their argument was, if the deal went wrong I would have used the -ve tag, but since it's successful, why don't I use +ve. I just don't want to hand out too many greens without direct forum references.
@hugeblack, I think the explanation above can serve.

This doesn’t make sense, why would you copy a wallet address sent on your private message. This will only make sense as copy error if you have a blockchain transaction history that you pay your loan on the time close to your signature application.


@lovesmayfamilis did a very good job on finding this connection. I honestly having a hard time to find any connection to these guys local board even though I have a hunch for the connection just to help you out. I salute you and other user on this unpaid work. Keep it up “sister”. Just a humor on your last work.

[lovesmayfamilis]

.......only through forum pm and off forum.  

Yes, perhaps that was your problem. You like to write in PM. Pretending to be a friend by sending a few PM isn’t friendship, and your expectation that I would reach out to you first was misguided. That’s probably what prompted me to read your posts, following the incident with SmartGold01’s “sister.”

edit:

By the way, KingsDen, don't you think these dates seem a bit symbolic to you?

I was the first one to give you a tilde, the very next day after you changed your password. 

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-09-18_Sat_07.53h/3333894.html

[Karl_3000]

YOSHIE, it is very good that you point to the campaign that Kingsden and rby applied for a slot. stompix, it is also good that you think Kingsden and rby cheated and you have given him red trust already. You are all trying to protect this forum from abusers.

But I make findings about this case and I noticed that the allegation that he joined the same campaign is not true. But before I will continue, let me make some things clear first which you can see in the quotes:

Do not enroll your main+alt account in this campaign. Doing so will result in the removal of all as well as being added to my Blacklist.

The rule here I believe is quite different, the rule is don’t use your alts to participate in the same campaign, and if that’s not what happened there, then I don’t see any actual offense there.

It depends on the campaign. This one, for example, allows you to apply wit alts as long as you don't end up joining the campaign with more than one.

8. You, a person, are not allowed to enroll with more than one account.

This one, on the other hand, doesn't even let you apply with alts.

Alternative accounts can not apply.

And in the case of the Bitania campaign, which we're talking about, it's a little more confusing, because it says:

In other words, it mentions “enrolling,” not “applying,” so it might seem like you can apply with multiple alt accounts as long as you don't end up enrolling more than one. However, since it mentions “by any means,” it could also be interpreted as being prohibited.

Back to the discussion
Kingsden applied on FortuneJack as a senior member but he left at week 8 probably because he saw another campaign that is paying higher amount of bitcoin.

You can go through the spreadsheet yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1LUGHc5UUskr0H17fOca1_HRI-xNIsgjWyg5CJP5WiMg/htmlview#gid=1230141000

But rby applied after week 37.

Kingsden left at week 8 but rby applied after week 37.

Free market capitalist explained in the quote that enroll is different from apply. Hhampuz mentioned in the campaign that people should not enroll with alts.

With what I have explained, Kingsden had left the campaign more than a year before rby applied.

Stompix, I posted this because I think the feedback you gave Kingsden does not tells what actually happened. I think YOSHIE can also edit his post for people not to think that Kingsden is a campaign cheater with his alts.

This is my own view on this case.



About Kingsden and rby
I think this account now belong to the same person. I also think Kingsden bought rby because rby was created in 2014 when Nigerians has not really know this forum but Kingsden registered in 2021. I wished he had come out plain which could have helped him because it is very clear that he did not know that rby has been used to do something bad on this  forum but bought the account.

This is the reason we are advising people not to buy account because the account you bought might put you in problem.

I may be wrong about both accounts, but this is what I think.

It will be good if you can pardon Kingsden. I am talking about the red tag from stompix.

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Now we are waiting for the explanation regarding the password resets. Two different individuals whose accounts have already been linked using a Bitcoin address can't surely have the passwords changing on the same day. I believe in coincidences but that? Hard to take in.

[AakZaki]

I have had a few pm with the rby guy over forum, and later off forum. I once took a loan of $200 from him and paid  back using his wallet from a review campaign a

When someone gets an allegation on the Reputation Board then can't provide concrete evidence or said evidence. I think it's just a fairy tale.
I once bombarded a question with someone I had accused, but he always refuted and convinced me with his arguments, so I thought he was telling the truth and I stopped the accusation.

Unlike you, your statement doesn't make sense. And when @lovesmayfamilis ask the most suspicious thing you miss it, as if you didn't look at the question.

I've been observing this thread since yesterday, and waiting for you to provide the most plausible evidence, but I haven't seen it yet

and that was one time incident, a stupid decision but I didn’t think it would be a problem.

That stupid decision you made while you were still in the rank of Hero Member? hmm.. means that you were once a Stupid Hero Member. Hopefully it doesn't continue in the current Rank of Legendary. Lol

[stompix]

It will be good if you can pardon Kingsden. I am talking about the red tag from stompix.

He has bought an account, he has lied about it, and he still denies having an alt and makes up a "guy" who loaned him money story!
In short, he is a guy not to be trusted, thus red tag worthy!
I said it numerous times, I'm not that quick to red tag accounts, I could have had a list bigger than Lauda with all the shit I've seen here, but when you're a special kind of liar, the tag gets stamped, and ....it doesn't come off!

Also kind of funny ...must be another coincidence...... never mind...I'm seeing stuff!

[KingsDen]

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Now we are waiting for the explanation regarding the password resets. Two different individuals whose accounts have already been linked using a Bitcoin address can't surely have the passwords changing on the same day. I believe in coincidences but that? Hard to take in.

It's been some years and many things might have happened, but I think we treat issues only raised here
I have just been trying to be brief on the thread to avoid writing a wall of texts. If I begin to explain everything it will look boring and can result in flooding of issues .

I remember that I changed password only twice since I created my account.

When there was a rumour in a group that EFCC has compromised Nigerians account in BTT. EFCC is like FBI of my country. They arrested someone, tracked his address to weekly earnings and the person mentioned the forum and signature campaign. That made some of us change password that period.

When I set secret question and later understood that my account could be easily locked through that option. I had to reset it and changed password.

I don't remember the incident that pre-dates the other.

When someone gets an allegation on the Reputation Board then can't provide concrete evidence or said evidence. I think it's just a fairy tale.

I've been observing this thread since yesterday, and waiting for you to provide the most plausible evidence, but I haven't seen it yet

In this situation, I don't even know the kind of evidence to provide.

[Karl_3000]

It will be good if you can pardon Kingsden. I am talking about the red tag from stompix.

He has bought an account, he has lied about it, and he still denies having an alt and makes up a "guy" who loaned him money story!
In short, he is a guy not to be trusted, thus red tag worthy!
I said it numerous times, I'm not that quick to red tag accounts, I could have had a list bigger than Lauda with all the shit I've seen here, but when you're a special kind of liar, the tag gets stamped, and ....it doesn't come off!

Thank you for responding, but what about you change it? This is what you write: Account buyer, campaign cheater

But he has not cheated in any campaign before, maybe you can just change it to account buyer instead. The reason I said this is because no evidence that he cheated in any campaign.

I have also traced the merit between both of them, they have not sent themselves merits before.

[nutildah]

Ha. I knew this guy was full of shit from his very first post.

I made this post in two categories; first to encourage the newbie and second to advice the old members.

For the newbie, I believe most of us are sharing in my wish. My wish to become a legend, a legend with so much merits and positive trust.  But dreams do not come true without hardwork.
First we must appreciate and accept our newbie status by showing the inclination to learn.
We should learn by keen observations, by reading through the posts of the old members, this will help pattern our attitude in the forum, it will also help us to grow with the norms and ethics of the forum.
By so doing our passion for the forum will be high, it is the passion that creates the way to success.

For the Old members, I will liken the forum to a building from foundation to roofing.
The building at the foundation stage does not make it less building, but it is the stage at which the engineer puts much efforts and expertise. Take the newbie as the foundation, help us grow, for if the foundation is wrongly laid, it will have a significant negative effects at the completion stage.

Congratulations to me for having an account in this forum, I am looking forward to a rapid and sustainable growth with your help.

Seriously, who writes a first post like that?

Congrats for lasting this long without getting caught. You had a good run with this account, time to pack it up and exit gracefully.

[KingsDen]

Ha. I knew this guy was full of shit from his very first post.

You have had your suspicion that I was someone's alt. You were linking me to someone who miss spells Quickseller then. I still have the memories of what happened in my newbie days. As regarding that, almost everyone in my local know I was a genuine newbie. Even people outside my locals can attest to that.

2021 was my first entry into this forum, I grinded, I faced uneasy welcome due to my first post but later aligned well with the forum members.
As regards to AakZaki advice of evidence, I will try to look up for one, just that I have been away for Easter program, I'll get home in a few days.