bitcampaign alternative account samuraijin?

[Pandu Geddon]

Sorry for making a separate thread for my suspicion with the accounts @bitcampaign and @samuraijin. Because I need the community's opinion on these two accounts and possibly some other accounts that might also be part of their alternative accounts.

Both accounts are currently participating in the Vave signature campaign, which is managed by @julerz12
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vOsIA9USXE87BCirK0Kja_yNfnEYXXwOmcqT9-LgkO4/edit?gid=1101862919#gid=1101862919

First: registration time


Second: woke up time



Third: transaction
https://etherscan.io/address/0x339975Fb08b9FD31F413402b04202312885d8368

ETH address : 0x339975Fb08b9FD31F413402b04202312885d8368

ETH Address: 0xee6fBbfBB8BceA9d33E2F3c50eA9e9b028D7FcF8

But when tracing token transactions from their addresses, there are several accounts that also deposit tokens to the same address. 
You can see it here, and you will see several accounts like the ones below:
https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x961fff8b602a4c6c58fbd54ff22bbee206805e8d&p=1

0x7c3AeD95e0dC23E6Af5D58d108B9c18F44Da598C : G14tz87 (BANNED)
0x2eFA5E262f957ecAF1a4Ec8bb12E8AE91F93aEca :  bitcampaign
0x3f9bb3679f1B71F22d823992078244C87EF4D455 : samuraijin
0xFfd34096A1633bB85c0b201Ca445DE3D5C862954 : piebeyb
0x347A7A7dB223A23774375EFfB6b6e96c5Ac64C1c : erwin_ibrahim (tag cheating and abusing campaigns.)
0x3878Ea79de09d7e461080C5CcD4bD86CB16c2183 : Kerupukkulit
0x9D7C69Ba1C7C72326186127f48AF6D61Ff95496D : bitcoinissatan (tag cheating and abusing campaigns.)
0x89607297D81CFC472b8C07374E4319f797CE7be4 : haji gondrong (tag bounty cheating, ban evasion.)
0x5c436071C11Ea2a53d9068E273D46DE489D21e7F : Tono68
0x57162Fe45De6c93B20478e63a878A3FfF9658E29 : Galih_Al karim (tag cheating and abusing campaigns.)
0xdf64F64C3A359CFc5151af729De3D2793C504455 : Arkhan.Cimot (BANNED)
0x02f075C10050ABf75aa36D366bBbDf1EE1e6C1C3 : bitvalak
0x6024Fb28D93C863D5a2Ea19e3906BFa475Ad2A43 : ayin2206
0x4de92619543E45DC8EAEC4f63aefe5060722361e : thiokoentjoan123

I am not sure whether the address belongs to a trader who bought tokens from campaign participants. But several transactions occurred at the same time.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The time of creating two accounts already indicates that these are two alts. if they violate the company's rules, why don't they have your tag?

[Awaklara]

accounts @bitcampaign and @samuraijin.

The evidence is sufficient to place a tag. Since both are also involved in the same campaign, you should also communicate with the manager to take action against those two accounts.

I am not sure whether the address belongs to a trader who bought tokens from campaign participants. But several transactions occurred at the same time.

Regarding the other accounts, it may need further follow-up for stronger evidence of connection. However, if transactions are carried out at the same time and for several accounts repeatedly, it is indeed suspicious.

[AakZaki]

-snip-
0x2eFA5E262f957ecAF1a4Ec8bb12E8AE91F93aEca :  bitcampaign
0x3f9bb3679f1B71F22d823992078244C87EF4D455 : samuraijin
0xFfd34096A1633bB85c0b201Ca445DE3D5C862954 : piebeyb

I am not sure whether the address belongs to a trader who bought tokens from campaign participants. But several transactions occurred at the same time.

I would argue if in the end of the day one of them would say buying tokens here, that's not true.
From a transaction that happened 8 years ago to the last transaction that happened 1 year ago, it's a recurring transaction, it signifies that it was done by the same person.

In addition to them sending to the same address, they also send each other between addresses.

https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0x3f9bb3679f1b71f22d823992078244c87ef4d455&ps=100&p=2

Also according to Merit data they do Merit Abuse, and post in order. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159855.msg61251704#msg61251704


I suspect the piebeyb account has changed hands or been sold, and is being used to spread suspicious links. I've reported it here

[Pandu Geddon]

The time of creating two accounts already indicates that these are two alts. if they violate the company's rules, why don't they have your tag?

There must have been a mistake when I closed my browser. Because I immediately gave negative tags to both accounts. Maybe I forgot to press submit when closing the exit tab for a while.

I suspect the piebeyb account has changed hands or been sold, and is being used to spread suspicious links. I've reported it here

That account could have changed hands, but it seems there is no history of password or email changes on that account. 
But I found something else, which might be worth banning that account.

Reporting Ban evasion:
operabit
rendravolt

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New article for Lisk (Indonesian)
http://blogbitindo.com/2016/02/09/lisk-harapan-baru-setelah-crypti/

Article : http://blogbitindo.com/2016/04/07/bitcoin-gambling-rollin/

[bitcampaign]

I would like to clarify that I no longer have access to that old wallet. I have not used it since I lost the private key.

Regarding the account creation, it dates back to the bounty era around 2016–2017, when this forum was highly active. At that time, several people participated together as a community. The account was not managed or owned by a single individual. It was part of my past activities, where I joined bounty campaigns alongside other community members. I was one of the participants who learned how to create an account and how to remain active on the forum properly.

I hope this helps clarify the situation.

[Pandu Geddon]

I would like to clarify that I no longer have access to that old wallet. I have not used it since I lost the private key.

So you are clarifying that it was not you who made those repeated transactions? 
When did you lose access to your wallet? 
Because for this wallet: 0x339975Fb08b9FD31F413402b04202312885d8368, you were still using it to register for bounty campaigns in 2017, and made UTT token deposits to the same address as Samurajin. The same address and the same time.
https://etherscan.io/token/0x16f812be7fff02caf662b85d5d58a5da6572d4df?a=0x961fff8b602a4c6c58fbd54ff22bbee206805e8d

[bitcampaign]

I would like to clarify that I no longer have access to that old wallet. I have not used it since I lost the private key.

So you are clarifying that it was not you who made those repeated transactions?  
When did you lose access to your wallet?  
Because for this wallet: 0x339975Fb08b9FD31F413402b04202312885d8368, you were still using it to register for bounty campaigns in 2017, and made UTT token deposits to the same address as Samurajin. The same address and the same time.
https://etherscan.io/token/0x16f812be7fff02caf662b85d5d58a5da6572d4df?a=0x961fff8b602a4c6c58fbd54ff22bbee206805e8d

You may not know much information because your account was created in 2021, if you are an old player you may know where the altcoin Bounty once shone in this forum from 2016 to 2017, the transaction you gave was in early January 2018, after that Bounty experienced a decline in interest in mid-2018 in this forum because there were many fraudulent projects so many were not interested in following it anymore, I have said above that I do not access the old wallet that I do not have it at the moment, now I am active not with the old community, I think that can clarify and I am currently active for myself no longer with the community

My experience at the time was limited and I couldn't sell my coins myself, so I chose to sell them to others. Hopefully, that clarifies things.

[samuraijin]

If you're simply looking to gain reputation and merit on this forum, there are actually many better ways than searching for old artifacts, which many famous users used to do back then. Ultimately, those who did this never returned to the forum and left.

We can see that many old users are no longer active on this forum because this method is still considered a popular way to gain merit and increase your ranking. Although I know what I did was indeed illegal at the time, everyone probably has different reasons. So I won't try to explain my past and justify my mistakes, as this will certainly happen again in the future. So, whatever it is, if your goal is to gain merit and increase your ranking quickly, then just do it. Good luck. 

[Pandu Geddon]

You may not know much information because your account was created in 2021, if you are an old player you may know where the altcoin Bounty once shone in this forum from 2016 to 2017,

Yes, I really didn't know the bounty situation in that year. But I know, many accounts were caught because of their greed to make money that year. Old accounts that are now caught, I am sure, were part of the greedy people in the past who carried their bad habits until now. And those who are still like that will be exposed one by one. Your account should be fine if you only join campaigns with one account.

[AakZaki]

-snip-

Although I know what I did was indeed illegal at the time, everyone probably has different reasons. So I won't try to explain my past and justify my mistakes, as this will certainly happen again in the future. So, whatever it is, if your goal is to gain merit and increase your ranking quickly, then just do it. Good luck. 

You have admitted that you have done something illegal in the past, but you are still doing it today.

When many people want to change to improve their posts to move up the next rank, you are still cheating the campaign and no wonder you are still in the rank of Sr.Member, I think you don't care about your account that is almost 1 decade old.

Instead of thinking about improving the post, you are still cheating the campaign to this day.

Regardless of how someone gets merit as long as they don't cheat and don't become a loser like you, it doesn't matter.

[iGotSpots]

The time of creating two accounts already indicates that these are two alts. if they violate the company's rules, why don't they have your tag?

There must have been a mistake when I closed my browser. Because I immediately gave negative tags to both accounts. Maybe I forgot to press submit when closing the exit tab for a while.

I suspect the piebeyb account has changed hands or been sold, and is being used to spread suspicious links. I've reported it here

That account could have changed hands, but it seems there is no history of password or email changes on that account. 
But I found something else, which might be worth banning that account.

Reporting Ban evasion:
operabit
rendravolt

I've made articles for sportsbet.io into Indonesian: http://blogbitindo.com/2017/03/11/sportsbet-io-situs-gambling-olahraga-dengan-bitcoin/

New article for Lisk (Indonesian)
http://blogbitindo.com/2016/02/09/lisk-harapan-baru-setelah-crypti/

Article : http://blogbitindo.com/2016/04/07/bitcoin-gambling-rollin/

It appears that a person named Rendra Permana is from Indonesia and owns three connected accounts:

Profile 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553291

Profile 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=384646

Profile 3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=157691

The three accounts mentioned above have not yet received Redtrust. There is ample evidence that these accounts are connected, leading to fraud in the past through the same blogger website.

[yahoo62278]

The time of creating two accounts already indicates that these are two alts. if they violate the company's rules, why don't they have your tag?

Regardless of the outcome of this case, I do want to say that accounts being created on the same date within an hour of each other or whatever does not necessarily mean they are alts IMO. During the ICO boom I am sure that hundreds of accounts were created within minutes of each other.

[JollyGood]

I hope this helps clarify the situation.

It does not clarify the situation.

So I won't try to explain my past and justify my mistakes, as this will certainly happen again in the future. Good luck.  

That is an admission of your guilt.

Regardless of the outcome of this case, I do want to say that accounts being created on the same date within an hour of each other or whatever does not necessarily mean they are alts IMO. During the ICO boom I am sure that hundreds of accounts were created within minutes of each other.

Overall that really is the case, the date accounts were created is a different matter altogether. Accounts being created close to each other should not always be taken in to consideration when assessing the situation but in this particular case it is clear that the timing of the accounts being created just adds another dimension to mounting evidence (against what seems to be more like an account farm rather than alt-accounts).

[Pandu Geddon]

The three accounts mentioned above have not yet received Redtrust. There is ample evidence that these accounts are connected, leading to fraud in the past through the same blogger website.

Out of the three accounts, two of them have been banned. Only one account was still visible as active a few months ago. If I'm not mistaken, I also reported it to the moderator for Ban Evasion. But I forgot to check the result.

AakZaki also made a Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action !
But it seems like it wasn’t strong enough to get a ban.

Account: piebeyb<= Please Banned
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[lovesmayfamilis]

Overall that really is the case, the date accounts were created is a different matter altogether. Accounts being created close to each other should not always be taken in to consideration when assessing the situation but in this particular case it is clear that the timing of the accounts being created just adds another dimension to mounting evidence (against what seems to be more like an account farm rather than alt-accounts).

Thank you, obviously I made a statement here that shouldn't have been made, as it would be nice to think this person didn't discover America for me. But perhaps this will be useful for others, as only a manager can best understand the influx of hunters that occurred during the ICO👆.