Trying to collect a lotto winning with a fake ticket

[Questat]

He’s probably not a scammer, because real scammers are usually smarter and would already know the verification process, so they wouldn’t get caught that easily.

Most likely, this guy was just ignorant or maybe even a victim himself of someone selling fake tickets, and he might have paid a huge amount for it. Sadly, now he could end up in jail because of that action.

That really shows that ignorance of the law excuses no one. Whatever explanation he gives may not matter that much anymore, because what he did is already enough to get himself jailed. I’m not sure how long though, probably not that long since no money was actually taken and it was just a failed attempt to scam the lottery.

Hopefully once he gets out, he realizes that in the lottery, only honesty and real luck can make someone win.

[Agathamay]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I couldn't help but laugh after reading the story and I wonder what was going through his head when going to make the claim because what in Gods name would someone be trying to claim a winning he knows fully well isn't his?
People are mean and maybe the mental health of the victim should be checked atleast before taking final disciplinary measures on him because I don't think anyone in their right senses should have such boldness.

[Karl_3000]

The person is insane is all I could say. Some people think that they can do many things that will make their scam to become reality, but this is one of the failed one. It is good that he has been arrested. At least 2 or 3 years in prison will be good for such a person to be in the correctional center.

At least this will teach others that want to do the same lessons that it is not easy to use a fake ticket to collect the money that is not rightfully theirs.

[fullfitlarry]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I haven't heard this from our local news, Lol. But yeah this is one of the craziest scams in our country's lotto history. Perhaps he think can get away with it? But for sure there are a lot of security mechanism by PCSO to check everything first to see if it is legit before giving out the winnings.

And instead of winnings, he is awaiting jail time now.

[xLays]

I saw this on the news last night I just laughed because… imagine trying to scam the PCSO, when people already think it’s more scammer inside PCSO at that game than anyone else. Well there’s no actual evidence that PSCO cheat, but you know how it is, that’s just what most people say. And let’s be honest, a lot of officials handling it have a reputation for corruption.
Still, the old man deserves to be jailed since it’s clearly falsification of documents. At that point, it feels like he was basically gambling 150 million php on the slim chance he could get away with it… and lost..

[alegotardo]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

Impossible!

In modern lottery systems, it is not enough to just have a  paper identical to an original with the winning numbers printed on it... tickets have verification mechanisms such as random numbers and barcodes that only the lottery's integrated system knows and can validate. In other words, only the person who possesses the real winning ticket has the correct verification code (which is like an electronic signature hash). So, unless the winner publicly discloses a photo of the winning ticket, it could not be forged.

I know that in some countries they also require the person to provide their personal identification number when buying a ticket, and if they are the winner, only they could claim the prize with an official identification document.

Here in Brazil, a young girl of 19 year old made a very grotesque forgery of a federal lottery ticket in 2019. Obviously, she also failed to claim the prize because the verification barcode did not validate the ticket's authenticity. SOURCE

[OsaiEmma]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I think, just as everyone here have said, it will be difficult to carry out scam activities this way. Their must be a verification of ur claimed winnings before the reward will be issued out, that's like the basic of basic. I don't think anyone will issue out a win reward without verifying the claim, unless the verification process is maybe hacked.

This kind of scam activity haven't been seen in my country yet.

[cryptoaddictchie]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

When I actually read it on a news on facebook I literally laugh cause thats not even possible to happen. Imagine he claiming 172million and the output of the results are shown in the end of the draw. I think his planned was to get it first before the declared winner and authorities might not check him up.

What confuses me is how he can able to provide a same like ticket for a lotto? Maybe people these days have a new tactics that they think they can escape and not caught. Its hard to try to scam the government. When it comes to money matter they are smart.

[Yablee0]

That was so unreasonable of him so to speak, what was he actually thinking at the first place before carrying out such expensive joke? or was he actually in his best state of mind if I may ask, because I don't think such person could be mentally okay to be thinking that the casinos official's will just stupidly hand over a large amount of money of such magnitude to him without verifying if he's really saying the truth or not, what was really running through his mind?

However, that serves him right because even if is mentally derange he would have understand how risky putting out such act could be and he may be charge for criminal case. To be honest this is the most craziest i must say.

[Ishicryptic]

In this day and age I think that it is laughable and ignorance for any person to want to fake a winning ticket, I don't think that I've heard about something like this before in my life, maybe it could be possible when technology hadn't been this advanced but not now. For a scammer to succeed to present a fake winning ticket they must have an insider that will facilitate it from the inside maybe by manipulating the system that is if something like that is even possible. I'm glad that the dumb scammer was caught so that other dumb scammers will know better than trying such silly tricks to steal from a lottery company.

[maydna]

The chances to scam the lottery in the modern verification process will not possible. The newest technology will prevents the scam and only the valid ticket can claim the reward.

But those scammers will keep trying to scam the lottery although they know the chance will not be there. The casinos have their own verification process so those scammers should not try it.

[swogerino]

Some guys have no other choices but to try these vandal acts, I judge this guy as a pure scammer and that he fully deserved the arrest but can be other cases where the man doing such acts maybe is not that bad and will give an example from my country. A relatively old man of 67 years of age had fallen into huge debts because of life bringing it to him like that through illness and other things, not vices like gambling and he got all by himself with a gun to rob a bank, he was immediately arrested and said "I am not like this, I just want prison time so I can escape persons I owe money".

[giammangiato]

A 4-money scammer, they have a better security system for collecting winnings than banks, imagine if with a simple fake ticket you can collect such a sum.
He tried but it cost him dearly.
I don't understand it almost seems like fake news to me, in the sense that you have to be really stupid to think you can do this thing.

[Somegory]

How could be? This is the most stupid being I've ever seen, I am sure that he have never seen the process of someone planning to collect a such prize, I mean the process is very long, verification and all lol.

There is no way he can escape with this, it would be better If he visits a Africa country and try robbing their bank since security level is poor is some Africa countries, Philippines isn't lacking when it comes to security level, just like Thailand.

Even if someone made a mistake on the inside he will still get arrested because the rightful winner will show up, it serves him right, only a crafty mastermind person can pull this off and it comes with lots of challenges that only happens in movies.

[hedgeh0g]

Some guys have no other choices but to try these vandal acts, I judge this guy as a pure scammer and that he fully deserved the arrest but can be other cases where the man doing such acts maybe is not that bad and will give an example from my country. A relatively old man of 67 years of age had fallen into huge debts because of life bringing it to him like that through illness and other things, not vices like gambling and he got all by himself with a gun to rob a bank, he was immediately arrested and said "I am not like this, I just want prison time so I can escape persons I owe money".

Wow, these are some unexpected life stories. He decided to hide like that, but something tells me it wasn't the best idea. Generally, it's best to learn to predict future situations as well as possible; this even helps in gambling. For example, I understand that I will never exceed my gaming limit for today because if I do, I simply won't be able to play normally in the future. As for the situation with the fake ticket, of course, that's absolutely not necessary. It's better to try to come up with a winning strategy in the game like the professionals; this method doesn't break any rules.

[Tetu100]

In this day and age I think that it is laughable and ignorance for any person to want to fake a winning ticket, I don't think that I've heard about something like this before in my life, maybe it could be possible when technology hadn't been this advanced but not now. For a scammer to succeed to present a fake winning ticket they must have an insider that will facilitate it from the inside maybe by manipulating the system that is if something like that is even possible. I'm glad that the dumb scammer was caught so that other dumb scammers will know better than trying such silly tricks to steal from a lottery company.

Faking winning ticket in this modern generation can be very funny because I see no way it can work out when everything is fully upgraded and well digitalised. However, such act isn't common this days because even you as a person thinking of such, your instinct should tells you better  that you're actually embarking on a sucide mission because you will definitely not going to succeed. Of a truth, a real scammer will never do this because it's actually an act of foolishness,  maybe he's one of those hungry hoodlums that was just trying to play some fast one on the casinos.

[danherbias07]

Whoever that is, he is either stupid or is just too frustrated that he ain't winning the jackpot for so long. Still, this is not a wise decision because it's possible jail time. If he is just persistent, I understand what he feels because life here in our country has become so bad that many times a person will think of something bad to get out of being poor. But this ain't the answer to it.

This is actually the first time I have heard of someone doing this. He should know that the data is being registered in the system, including the unique lotto ticket number and the other details about it, the time, the lotto numbers, and the betting place. Also, with that large sum of money, they will probably not just double-check it. Many times, they will try to validate it before giving out the jackpot money.

[IsraelK]

It is not possible that he presents them a fake ticket and they don't verify it before awarding the money to him, except if the scammer is an hacker who already hacked into their system, because we can't trust people nowadays on what they are up to and only on this occasion can they be scammed, but aside that, do we have to check the procedures on their system and how it happens for them to verify before any reward is being given, moreover, this is also a huge amount in considerations so they have to follow the due procedures.

This is exactly why the move toward Bitcoin-betting is becoming the gold standard for anyone tired of the "paper ticket" era. It replaces human error and "fake ticket" anxiety with mathematical certainty.

[coinrifft]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

When I actually read it on a news on facebook I literally laugh cause thats not even possible to happen. Imagine he claiming 172million and the output of the results are shown in the end of the draw. I think his planned was to get it first before the declared winner and authorities might not check him up.

What confuses me is how he can able to provide a same like ticket for a lotto? Maybe people these days have a new tactics that they think they can escape and not caught. Its hard to try to scam the government. When it comes to money matter they are smart.

Same reaction, I was laughing when I read the news that someone tries to fake a ticket and claim that 172 million. However, he was late as the real winner have claimed it already. Maybe if he is quick, but then again, there are features that can't be fake by him.

You know how Filipinos are, you can go to a certain place like Recto in Manila and have all your documents be made from driver's license to diploma.  . That's how good Filipinos are, so maybe he think that this one will pass.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I've not heard of that in my country, but from the write-up, it's obvious the guy would've been successful if the rightful over have not made claims earlier on. Since it was after confirming it has been claimed that they had close observation on the ticket which shows a flawed initial verification proceeding. Lottos tickets I see in my area have QR codes on it which I believe are verification details of each slip distributed and if such was present in the ticket, the man wouldn't have even dared to pull off that scam since there's no way he can adjust the codes info to tally with what exists in the system and it would have identified the scam upon initial verification.