Trying to collect a lotto winning with a fake ticket

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

This has not happened in my country before but I think someone have tried it with a bookie before and the outcome was bad for the person because he was arrested and charged for attempt fraud. Those tickets has a special codes or tracking ID which I doubt that a scammer would be able to know exactly those numbers unless they would have to hack into the system of the bookie of lottery and then print the ticket directly from that platform, that's when they can succeed with such scam and also if the real winner has not already taken the money.

[YOSHIE]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

In my area, no one has ever claimed a lottery like the one you described.
As far as I know, the process for taking the lottery requires several stages of verification, What's more, in official lottery drawing there are automatic and manual stages which are very strict in order to ensure the legitimacy of the lottery winner itself.

There are several verifications that are required for drawing a lottery such as Identity, Document Validation, Checking Confirmation Numbers and so on, so it is not as easy and simple to try to cheat on lottery winning verification, it is not that easy to cheat on lottery wins.

Such people are simply embarrassing themselves, by daring to claim fake draws.

[Betwrong]

~ With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I think it's harder to counterfeit a lottery ticket than ... Well, I think it's simply impossible with today's level of verification.  Even if it wasn't claimed by its rightful owner, this scammer had no chance of getting the prize anyway.

[aioc]

This is the first time there is a person who have the bravery to give a falsification ticket on the lotto lottery in the Philippines most of the people are just waiting for the combination of their winning combination and he things hes in the movie of heist its his mistake instead he get directly arrested by the officials instead of claiming the prize this is also considering a crime of using a tampered details and of course its the PCSO's verification too it is a large amount of money they need an authentication and verification in their side.

This constitutes the crime of falsification of documents; he should have a good defense so that he does not get convicted. I remember a local movie about a guy who was swindled to buy a winning lottery ticket, but it was not the jackpot prize, but a second prize, which was as large as the first, for a fraction of the second prize, but he was not convicted because of his defense that he was swindled to buy the ticket. Whatever his defense is, it should be convincing.

The guy could have not been a long time bettor because if he is he knows the verification process, I think he is not even a gamblr to think that he can get away with this.

[JoyMarsha]

The man is sick in the head and ignorant of the fact that no one would win such a huge amount of money without the government verifying it, to know how genuine the lottery-winning ticket is.

Look at how much he plans to take away from the government-owned lottery company. He didn't think of little money, but a large amount of money that the lottery company will pay dearly for. I believe he will have himself roasting in prison for years for these stupid acts of his

[qwertyup23]

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With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

It's so funny that he had tampered the lotto ticket using a ballpen to conceal some if its marks. The funny thing is, why would he do this? I am pretty sure that all lottery tickets are registered inside a database in which every ticket is rightfully scanned in order to avoid any kind of cheating.

Imagine the consequences of his actions because of this- now, he is faced with a possibility of criminal charges and other civil liabilities and/or a fine.

The man is sick in the head and ignorant of the fact that no one would win such a huge amount of money without the government verifying it, to know how genuine the lottery-winning ticket is.

Look at how much he plans to take away from the government-owned lottery company. He didn't think of little money, but a large amount of money that the lottery company will pay dearly for. I believe he will have himself roasting in prison for years for these stupid acts of his

I agree with you. The funds from the lottery came from all persons who purchased the ticket and a percentage of those winnings are donated to charity. Since he attempted to defraud the government, let alone charity, he faces possible prison time along with a hefty fine as an example to all persons who might attempt such act in the future.

[DPHOR]

From how they operate over here in our country it is always very tight for such things to happened because they usually have strong procedures to let people that wins to claims their winning with their rightful tickets. Of course most of them do signed on those tickets if they have already collected their rewards so ever though you have to furged another paper or ticket to claim the rewards you could easily be caught for doing that.
However, every ticket always have date and time on them, with the lotto registration number printed below the slip or ticket where it displays the numbers of bettors on the ticket. So whenever someone trying to fake a ticket they would easily noticed and get such person arrested.

[coin-investor]

It could have been a great achievement for him if he had collected the prize, but the lotto operators are always two steps ahead, so they make sure that only a valid ticket and the right ticket holder can claim the grand prize. The guy is an idiot for thinking that he can get away with it; maybe he should act crazy so he cannot go to jail and just end up in mental facility because the penitentiary in the Philippines is one of the worst.

[Zadicar]

The man is sick in the head and ignorant of the fact that no one would win such a huge amount of money without the government verifying it, to know how genuine the lottery-winning ticket is.

Look at how much he plans to take away from the government-owned lottery company. He didn't think of little money, but a large amount of money that the lottery company will pay dearly for. I believe he will have himself roasting in prison for years for these stupid acts of his

Actually we human beings already have that own free will and common sense on the things that we do on which it would be totally impossible that you wont be able to project out on what would happen to you if you would be trying out to fool or done those illegal things on which obviously it would be putting up you on prison once you do get caught. Although because of desperation or whatever severe the problem a person has and having that plans on doing something illegal then they would definitely do it no matter what the consequences ahead on which you would later on made out some realization that you shouldnt have done that on the first place as there are tons of options on solving out financial problems. It is just that you've been thinking for the shortcut way and doesnt want to do real hard work and thats why you came up with these kind of options. As of the ticket verification on which it would be that too impossible that they dont able to notice or detect it out on todays tech on which finding it fake wouldnt be that so hard.

[sunsilk]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I don't think so, there's a database for that if there's a central office to verify it for those who presents themselves and claims that they're winners and hit the jackpot.

Although there's a way to scam a lottery company and that's through having someone inside the office who holds the database.

So having an insider and that will be someone's accomplice will make the scamming possible. But even with that, they'll be figured out because the verification process of these winners takes time before they're proclaimed as genuine winners.

[Zlantann]

This constitutes the crime of falsification of documents; he should have a good defense so that he does not get convicted. I remember a local movie about a guy who was swindled to buy a winning lottery ticket, but it was not the jackpot prize, but a second prize, which was as large as the first, for a fraction of the second prize, but he was not convicted because of his defense that he was swindled to buy the ticket. Whatever his defense is, it should be convincing.

The guy could have not been a long time bettor because if he is he knows the verification process, I think he is not even a gamblr to think that he can get away with this.

Getting a good lawyer can facilitate his innocence or secure a reduced sentence. But he needs money to get the services of a good lawyer. And secondly, his case is a complex one since it was reported that he used a writing material to change some figures in the ticket. This makes it obvous that it was a scam attempt.

His lawywer would have to put up a good defence provong that he was not the one who falsified such an important document. In my country he is at risk of about five to seven years imprisonment.

[r_victory]

I find it very difficult to believe that someone could cheat the system of lotteries managed by the government itself; this guy was really stupid. Here in Brazil, for larger prizes, it's necessary to present an identity document, and the payment is made exclusively at a branch of the bank responsible for lotteries in our country. In addition, the tickets and bets are all counted and numbered with unique identification codes.

[Jubilee58]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

This is also the first time am hearing this kind of news. Anyway, crimes are increasing on daily basis with different methods. This behaviour is entirely very fraudulent, and such person deserve to be punished severely. Thank God for the reliability of the verification machine, otherwise this person would have succeeded withdrawing another person's money. Another thing to note, when you play a game, don't expose it to people, more especially when the bet is very big. I have seen a situation where someone go as far as stealing the ticket of his friend who won huge amount of money in gambling, but unfortunately he was caught too.

[EarnOnVictor]

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

I could say this is the highest level of stupidity. At the same time, I believe it's beyond what we see from the surface. No one would just come to claim such winning except he had the prior and tangible knowledge about it. It's likely this is an internal machinated fraud that the rightful owner had outsmarted.

It might be a different case if the rightful owner had not come earlier, they would just say someone, somehow had collected it with a valid ticket, and the case would just die down over time. The guy can't attempted to pull it alone.

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I've not heard such before, but it's possible. Like I said: Insider. Anything is possible if a powerful insider is involved. The money is about $2,810,000, which is worth it for any fraudulent employee.

[Cryptmuster]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

I think that in order to try to cheat the system, you need to thoroughly understand from the inside how everything works, how the entire structure for verifying and identifying winning tickets is built. It’s quite possible that tickets use QR codes or similar features that aren’t easy to replicate or verify as authentic.

And of course, his biggest mistake was trying to present fake tickets after the prize had already been claimed by the real winner. That’s something he should have considered first and foremost. On the other hand, it suggests that he didn’t have any accomplices or insider information from the lottery and was acting on his own.

I also think that if he made such basic mistakes, then most likely his plan wouldn’t have worked anyway, because the ticket wouldn’t have passed the lottery’s verification process.

[mak013]

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With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

In my country when you buy ticket you have to fix it with your phone number. It is good decision as for me. Even if you forgot about it - you will get SMS or call telling you about your prize.
I play really rare and never won big sums, but i think that you will prove that your ticket won with the same way - using the phone.

[Wakate]

The rate of scam is becoming something quite surprising because of what people are doing for them to make money from scamming people. That person that thinks he can use a fake lot ticket to scam people is doing a very big mistakes because all these have verifications that needed to be done before cashouting the money if it's real.

[BitBakerr1]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

Was he thinking he can succeed in such a thing, some people actually has mind in doing things like this, maybe he just decided to try his luck and has prepared to face the consequences of anything that will come out of his actions, people that usually do this kind of things don’t even mind going to prison if they got caught, was he planning to stay in that country after collecting that sum of money or he wanted to leave the country to a country he won’t be hunted by his government, I believe it will be in his plan because you can take that sum of money and leave freely in that same country.
Well thank God the prize was already collected by the rightful owner before he came.

[Odohu]

The more I imagine the possibility of someone havingthe courage to approach the office with a fake ticket to claim the type of amount here, the more this story appear to me like the company trying to deny a ligitimate winner his money. He surely cannot think that they are stupid to give him such money without verification, so how can he present a fake ticket. The matter should be thouroughly investigated. Unless he hacked the system in collaboration with some officials.

[Pi-network314159]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

It is not possible, that guy is too ignorant to have taken a fake ticket to a government casino to withdraw another person win. It is not possible to scam the lottery company because each lottery ticket comes with a serial number or a customer Id which will be used to verify if it's real or fake. I just wonder how he can do that. The only way I know he can scam them is if he has the customer Id of the original winner and duplicate it, with an advanced tool, but if the casino is smart enough they will still hold him because they will know their tickets from a generated one. It is not just that possible to claim such won amount without proper verification.