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Today at 03:22:07 AM
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This is what happens to your account in central banks if you leave it unused for two or three years, and this also happens in centralized exchanges, so keeping money in banks or centralized exchanges is the same thing and is wrong.

The best and safest option is to keep your Bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet, as there are still Bitcoins in old wallets from about 15-17 years ago that no one can freeze and they will remain in the wallet until their owner wants to withdraw and spend them. This is the true concept of ownership.


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Today at 04:12:52 AM
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Volatility should not be a reason why people shouldn’t invest in bitcoin it should serve as a stepping stones and that is something that makes Bitcoin very special and unique from other cryptocurrencies, especially when there is a dip in the price of bitcoin it would give an opportunity to keep buying and accumulating more bitcoin.

I have seen several situations, where buying bitcoin have never been a problem or challenge for someone who have the money to buy bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus more on buying bitcoin which is always a good advantage to to accumulate more and you will also have to buy more during a bear market.

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Today at 05:25:39 AM
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Volatility should not be a reason why people shouldn’t invest in bitcoin it should serve as a stepping stones and that is something that makes Bitcoin very special and unique from other cryptocurrencies, especially when there is a dip in the price of bitcoin it would give an opportunity to keep buying and accumulating more bitcoin.

I have seen several situations, where buying bitcoin have never been a problem or challenge for someone who have the money to buy bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus more on buying bitcoin which is always a good advantage to to accumulate more and you will also have to buy more during a bear market.
Volatility is mostly mistakenly interpreted as risk and not as price of admission for outsized returns. This is part of price volatility that Bitcoin has because in order to become global reserve asset, it must have huge upside potential and that means it has to be volatile. Act as filter that separates short term speculators from high conviction holders.

IMHO, real benefit of bear market is not only price, but also asymmetric risk/reward. Downside is usually factored in when sentiment is at its lowest, and upside is gigantic. As more advanced investor, other than simply buy because you have money, these dips offer chance to acquire investment at much lower cost basis. It is not wealth made during bullruns, it is just confirmed then. It is stomach to take volatility when everyone else is panicking that is real money spinner.

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Today at 06:05:43 AM
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Bitcoin is going through what the Austrian school of economics calls the process of monetization. In the end, everyone will accept Bitcoin . it is only a matter of time.


You can check the https://btcmap.org/, and even today there is a huge number of people and merchants accepting Bitcoin around the world. Maybe there are some in your own country too.

Paying for coffee with Bitcoin at a local restaurant. Watch how smooth it is.
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Today at 06:14:23 AM
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We’ve also experienced the deactivation of accounts that haven’t had any transactions for a long time. If I recall correctly, bank accounts that haven’t had any withdrawals are deactivated by the bank based on government regulations.
The main point is that it’s a real shame if a customer opens an account at a bank solely for the purpose of saving—without ever making a withdrawal—only to find that when they actually need it, the account can no longer be used. How must that customer feel?

Bitcoin can be converted to USDT to mitigate concerns about price drops. Volatility isn’t necessarily a serious problem. It all depends on the user. We have full control over our own money because we are the owners.

If only people weren't too fixated on retaining value in USD which in itself is logical fallacy because bitcoin has been gaining value against USD for these past decades to actually care enough to use true decentralized currency like bitcoin.

My experience with bitcoin has been flawless and the volatility isn't really a big deal as people painted it out to be, you'd probably pay more money for remittance haircut with conventional payment processor than using bitcoin directly even accounting its volatility.

People pay more with conventional finance system and they are happy because they thought they are holding stable currency which isn't really stable despite losing more money.

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Today at 06:37:42 AM
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Bank will not gives your money back to you without filling difficult requirement. You need to prove you are the owner by showing so many identities and that needs time to check. They will make sure that you are the right person and they can't accept if their customers don't make transaction for 2 years. Those people who used the bank do not accept Bitcoin as payment as they are actively used the account for transaction even for small transaction. We can't deny that many people still need bank accounts to transact and although they don't receive any interest of their saving, they do not minds.

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Today at 08:09:31 AM
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Bitcoin is going through what the Austrian school of economics calls the process of monetization. In the end, everyone will accept Bitcoin . it is only a matter of time.
It will never come to any times with everyone globally accept bitcoin, never. The world is actually huge enough to have many differences among people, and Bitcoin is not like any powerful thing that can force everyone on Earth accepting it.

People have many reasons to dislike and don't accept Bitcoin, and they're free to make their personal choices, from interest of conflict like banks against Bitcoin, gold companies against Bitcoin such as Peter Schiff, and other reasons. It's not actually bad or too bad when the world will continue its diversification on how to store wealth, assets, and transfer money through fiat currencies, bank systems, Bitcoin blockchain, gold or altcoins.

If Bitcoin can show its strength, advantage, great growth over time, it will be enough to make it more attractive with many people, now and in the future, from current generations to far future generations.

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Today at 09:49:19 AM
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Bitcoin is going through what the Austrian school of economics calls the process of monetization. In the end, everyone will accept Bitcoin . it is only a matter of time.
It will never come to any times with everyone globally accept bitcoin, never. The world is actually huge enough to have many differences among people, and Bitcoin is not like any powerful thing that can force everyone on Earth accepting it.

People have many reasons to dislike and don't accept Bitcoin, and they're free to make their personal choices, from interest of conflict like banks against Bitcoin, gold companies against Bitcoin such as Peter Schiff, and other reasons. It's not actually bad or too bad when the world will continue its diversification on how to store wealth, assets, and transfer money through fiat currencies, bank systems, Bitcoin blockchain, gold or altcoins.

If Bitcoin can show its strength, advantage, great growth over time, it will be enough to make it more attractive with many people, now and in the future, from current generations to far future generations.

I suspect that too. Even gold, an asset that is thousands of years old and recognized globally. But there are still has many people who dislike it and have no interest in owning it. So how will Bitcoin achieve that?

You are right, the world is very diverse and everyone has different preferences and tastes. Just because we like Bitcoin does not mean the whole world will think the same.

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Today at 10:25:03 AM
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Volatility should not be a reason why people shouldn’t invest in bitcoin it should serve as a stepping stones and that is something that makes Bitcoin very special and unique from other cryptocurrencies, especially when there is a dip in the price of bitcoin it would give an opportunity to keep buying and accumulating more bitcoin.

I have seen several situations, where buying bitcoin have never been a problem or challenge for someone who have the money to buy bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus more on buying bitcoin which is always a good advantage to to accumulate more and you will also have to buy more during a bear market.

This is not provably the main reason on why they didn't grab some Bitcoin. What play huge factor is the government approach towards this coin, if they are skeptical and impose lots of sanctions or discourage people to use it then those merchants and people will remain skeptical to buy Bitcoin.

But everything will change if we have seen good movement than by government. We can make US as example which right now they are finding ways to adopt Bitcoin, then little by little we have seen the effect of it since there are lots of good developments outside of that country happened and lots of companies also people are now looking at Bitcoin as good asset to acquire.

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Today at 11:43:24 AM
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Bitcoin's volatility, in my opinion, only exists relative to fiat currencies. Without fiat currencies, 1 BTC = 1 BTC. 🙋

It should be noted that, in the short term, Bitcoin is typically less volatile than fiat currencies. This makes it a perfectly suitable financial instrument for settlements. Personally, I happily accept Bitcoin payments. 🧖

In my opinion, Bitcoin's volatile nature prevents it from becoming a fully-fledged means of payment. It's simply that, on the one hand, the Bitcoin network has a technological limit on the number of daily transactions, and on the other, governments don't want Bitcoin to become a successful competitor to fiat currencies.

As for commercial banks, in my opinion, they long ago stopped providing quality services to their clients... Commercial banks are direct agents of governments. They constantly perform functions that are not typical for commercial organizations. This explains their lack of respect for their clients.  That's why they freeze clients' funds, and we can't find a way to counter their illegal actions. 🤷

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Today at 12:57:39 PM
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Bitcoin is not what is very difficult to learn or know, we can just be patient about the process and try to engage in other means through which we can understand the network, various opportunities that stand to be learned and gained at the same time from bitcoin adoption if we engage it properly.

You can make your decision about investment, trading or even engaging on third party crypto asset management platforms, whereby you stand to gain some return while you still have your asset intact, we don't have to see volatility in Bitcoin as a threat to us, instead, an opportunity whereby we can take advantage of making more profit and staying safe to avoid losing from every decision taken by us with our Bitcoin investment.

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Today at 01:19:20 PM
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Volatility should not be a reason why people shouldn’t invest in bitcoin it should serve as a stepping stones and that is something that makes Bitcoin very special and unique from other cryptocurrencies, especially when there is a dip in the price of bitcoin it would give an opportunity to keep buying and accumulating more bitcoin.

I have seen several situations, where buying bitcoin have never been a problem or challenge for someone who have the money to buy bitcoin, so it would be better for an investor to focus more on buying bitcoin which is always a good advantage to to accumulate more and you will also have to buy more during a bear market.

Many business owners have high chance of turning Bitcoin into something big, there are some business people that when they make profit from their business, they don't reinvest everything to the business, instead they push the money back to the bank and only use small portion to top the business. This is the vision many of them lack, why not put the money into business instead of enriching banks, I will gladly push that money to Bitcoin as investment.

Advantage of this over savings or other investment is that Bitcoin has never failed when it comes to liquidity issues, you can buy Bitcoin and sell anytime you want to cash your money, if you safely bought Bitcoin in one bear market, you will never regret doing it because if you can hold it and pass another bull run, you will always be at the top and can sell why you want to do it instead of buying other assets you will not be able to sell or liquidate very fast.

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Today at 01:57:12 PM
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We cannot just discard Bitcoin volatility just like that it still is the reason why many small businesses don't accept it, they will prefer to accept fiat which they are sure that it's value will be relatively the same within a few days that they need to take profit and restock. So for now and a long time to come we will still be relying on the banking system to make payments despite that inflation always hits fiat on the long term. I think that so far traditional currencies are better, faster and more convenient for payments than Bitcoin, I would rather keep my savings in Bitcoin and use fiat for payments within short periods.

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Today at 02:11:13 PM
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It's so sad that you can't live in this world (my country, at least), without the banks or the fiat system, because this system is not favourable at all. Trying to give the system the benefit of the doubt is like shooting yourself in the foot.
I wonder why more people, or businesses, are not trying to move away from this system. I made the mistake of leaving the money in that account; if I had converted it to Bitcoin, I wouldn't be in this mess, but it's a mistake I would never make again.

Edit: The reason I brought Volatility into this is that it is one of the main reasons businesses give for not accepting Bitcoin as payment. And the way I see it right now, I'd rather chose volatility than for someone else to hold and control my money for me, while giving me the illusion that I own and control the money when in reality, I've given then a no-interest loan.
You are absolutely right, I don't know if we are from the same country but I've had a similar experience too, I have account with 3 4 different banks, and at a point, I was financially down and wasn't able to keep all four accounts active as usual, so I took a break from using zenith bank and Access bank (I deliberately mentioned the name of the banks involved so that those who are from my country will understand me better).

For 3 years plus, I didn't touch any of this banks meanwhile some I did business with had a couple of times mistakenly sent my money to my zenith account, and I said well, since money is there, it will help the account not to go into domancy.
Three years later, I went to withdraw that money and discovered the account was in domancy mode, I walked into the bank to have things rectified but I was asked to provide some documents, I later did for both the zenith bank account and Access bank, Access after one week of providing the document reactivated my account but zenith bank, which was were had over $150 worth of my country's currency refused to reactivate my account, claiming the utility bill I provided isn't the accepted type, I've been in and out of that bank for the past 2 years and no progress, at a point, I gave up.
Experiences like this when I remember them makes my love for bitcoin grow really high above what anybody can imagine.

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No amount of volatility that Bitcoin has is worth this stress. The money has been with them for over 2 years, so it has been part of what they have used to make more money. I'm not asking for part of the profit; I just want my money back, yet they won't give it to me even though I have provided all the documents they requested.

I don't see the relevance for the argument, volatility and business don't go along while your bank account frozen is the reason now you want the merchants to accept Bitcoin?

Can someone explain I am getting the context right?

ANd I agree with the title the volaitlity is no excuse, you can just use the payment processor which instantly convert the btc or crypto deposit into fiat value so you don't lose anything.

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