Can AI really help with sports betting, or are we overrating it?

[Onyeeze]

If ai can help you win in sports betting, don't you think we would have closed down so many bookies and the ones that are left would be on their way down. Ai can help you do your analysis, the same way you can do it without using ai, it does not increase your chances of winning. If you are lucky, you win; if you are not, the bookies take your money.

you think that if it is something that would have been possible for AI to help us to win gambling many people have not done it since and make sure that the bankrupt gambling website, it is not easy because AI is a programming machine it does not detect future with only programs so using AI to gamble cannot to give you any accuracy it is better that you make a research about gambling that will give you a possible way for you to win in gambling than using Al as tools

[Vaskiy]

If ai can help you win in sports betting, don't you think we would have closed down so many bookies and the ones that are left would be on their way down. Ai can help you do your analysis, the same way you can do it without using ai, it does not increase your chances of winning. If you are lucky, you win; if you are not, the bookies take your money.

When it comes to sports betting it is not only about the luck there is more factors associated with the winning of a bet. Based on previous match history and the present day algorithms that keep every discussion as a data the AI could predict the outcome of the match. In reality sometimes there will be coincidence and everytime this won't be successful. According to me, AI has made the analysis easier and with live betting we select odds based on match scenario whereas AI could predict the outcome based on the data feed already added. If AI is accurate in outcome in sports betting then gambling platforms would have transformed their businesses to something else.

[leea-1334]

Are you kidding? AI in casino? What is the advantage over existing strategies? Red or Black? Hit or Stand? You are terrified? I am more terrified of players who post irrelevant information

This doesn't quite sound like a joke. Benefits? That's rather dubious. There's currently no empirical evidence to support this. Therefore, it's better not to trust AI results and rely on them. People want to do nothing and make easy money. This desire has lasted for millennia. New technology has captured the imagination so deeply that some people can no longer imagine their own existence. Their very lives may even depend on it.

Ya but my first point was. AI n casinos? I get it for sportsbetting, but this guy I responded to was talking about AI in casinos, like how is that going to help? By the time chatgpt gives you an answer, the next hand is being dealth 

Personally I love chatgpt,,, it helps me see even faster who the idiots are.

[fruktik]

Ya but my first point was. AI n casinos? I get it for sportsbetting, but this guy I responded to was talking about AI in casinos, like how is that going to help? By the time chatgpt gives you an answer, the next hand is being dealth 

Personally I love chatgpt,,, it helps me see even faster who the idiots are.

If you like the functionality of AI and it helps you, then I'm fine with that and I'm glad you're using this technology.

I've never had any serious experience with it before, so I'm a bit biased. I'll need time to get to the bottom of this. I've often wanted to set aside a few days to fully understand the beauty and quirks of this technology.

[Africolo]

Since ChatGPT came out in late 2022, AI has become mainstream enough that almost every industry has people trying to plug it into something. But I’m curious about sports betting specifically.

Is anyone here actually building or testing anything serious around AI and sports betting?

I don’t mean those random “AI prediction” websites that just say Team A will win,  Team B will lose, and gate it behind a paid service, and then disappear when the pick fails. I mean proper systems that try to model games, compare bookmaker odds, track closing line value, separate strong picks from watchlist picks, or even handle bankroll/risk decisions better.

For example, I’ve been playing around with the idea of a football betting system that does more than just predict match winners. Something that looks at team strength, expected goals, home/away scoring rates, goal probability models and using all of that data to make a goal grid to predict the probability of a fixture ending in over 1.5, over 2.5, etc.

The more I look at it, the more I feel AI may be more useful as a research assistant than as a magic prediction machine. Maybe it can help organize data, spot weak markets, compare lines across bookmakers, explain why a bet is risky, or separate “looks good” picks from bets that actually have some value behind them.

So far, I have had 2 wins and 1 loss and each bet was an acca of 2-4 odds.

Has anyone here tried building something like this, even as a personal project? And do you think AI can create a real edge in sports betting, or is it mostly hype for now?

This really sounds funny because if humans with a very good knowledge of gambling and tactics couldn't win bet easily how much more a prediction that is done by AI, I know that it's humans that programs AI but it's not a guarantee that because it's AI. One will suddenly win using it to place bets, what can be obtained from the usage of AI is past information and maybe new tactics but it's not an assurance that you must win because it's AI.

I'm part of those that believes winning in gambling comes from a place of luck but at the same time one has to also possess some knowledge and tactics about sports betting and games too, you must know the previous and existing history of teams and head to head of various teams you want to select for a particular game and the leagues they play, as it determines winning and AI don't know such . Anyone who wins with AI predictions is just lucky because it's not an assurance that you must win since it's AI.

[Ryu_Ar1]

As a result, I stopped this and considered myself much more capable than just relying on AI because the results even my own observations were slightly better than what AI did.
So in this case AI will still be very useful as a helper in terms of analysis to determine what we want to decide but in any case including gambling they are not the answer especially if we put our fate in AI it is clearly wrong.

I prefer using my own thinking and analysis to predict betting games than using AI. Only own thinking AI is not giving a sure prediction but it is a probability prediction like man. If I predict a bet, I have to look inside like the lineup of players, location of the Matche, home or away. But AI would not look into al those information but go ahead with the information given to it by the creator.

That's why I tried to analyze several AIs at once because I wanted to prove myself even though from the initial conclusion it was only helpful but not a few people believed that AI could make changes so I did an analysis with several AIs at once but as in the thread I gave earlier in the end my own analysis will be much better than what AI provides because consciously or not AI only refers to a set of data it has and makes this a benchmark.

This is the same as what we do almost every week especially for bettors so I still believe that AI is useful but it is only to be our helper in making decisions because in the end we ourselves must still determine what we do including in betting not only based on AI decisions.
But some gamblers seem to be too dependent on AI so that their decisions are not even a little determined from AI even though it is only a 3rd party that should be used as an addition to the analysis we do before starting betting.

[rachael9385]

Ask AI to analyze some info for you or stuff like that but take it all with a grain of salt.. best thing to do is analyzing things yourself.. if AI predicted the future well everyone used it already by now.. to win the lottery and shit like that.. but it's trained on human data which isn't perfect, it'll always make errors

I think we overuse AI and it is a problem a lot of us have. One thing about AI is that no matter what you ask you are always going to get a response and this doesn't mean that it's accurate. Just because we get predictions from it doesn't mean that AI predicts the future otherwise people would be making a lot of money from betting.

[Wakate]

If ai can help you win in sports betting, don't you think we would have closed down so many bookies and the ones that are left would be on their way down. Ai can help you do your analysis, the same way you can do it without using ai, it does not increase your chances of winning. If you are lucky, you win; if you are not, the bookies take your money.

you think that if it is something that would have been possible for AI to help us to win gambling many people have not done it since and make sure that the bankrupt gambling website, it is not easy because AI is a programming machine it does not detect future with only programs so using AI to gamble cannot to give you any accuracy it is better that you make a research about gambling that will give you a possible way for you to win in gambling than using Al as tools

If AI analysis is very accurate in making sport betting predictions, many casinos would have home bankrupt because of so many wins from gamblers using big stake to bet on different casinos just to make high profits. If you are sure about a particular game and you know that AI is giving you accurate predictions which had been making you to make huge profits, I know their will be a time when you will want to use big stake to bet so you can make huge profits.

[mcdouglasx]

do you think AI can create a real edge in sports betting, or is it mostly hype for now?

AI can give you better statistics if you know how to train it, if you know what data to add, and if you give it access to real-time sports information. It could be a good source of statistical information because of its ability to easily find patterns in the data. It will never be a 100% sure bet due to randomness and external factors, but it could be very helpful. I'm not talking about asking ChatGPT, which is more generalized; I'm talking about something you train yourself specifically for this purpose.

[Muba20]

If ai can help you win in sports betting, don't you think we would have closed down so many bookies and the ones that are left would be on their way down. Ai can help you do your analysis, the same way you can do it without using ai, it does not increase your chances of winning. If you are lucky, you win; if you are not, the bookies take your money.

you think that if it is something that would have been possible for AI to help us to win gambling many people have not done it since and make sure that the bankrupt gambling website, it is not easy because AI is a programming machine it does not detect future with only programs so using AI to gamble cannot to give you any accuracy it is better that you make a research about gambling that will give you a possible way for you to win in gambling than using Al as tools

If AI analysis is very accurate in making sport betting predictions, many casinos would have home bankrupt because of so many wins from gamblers using big stake to bet on different casinos just to make high profits. If you are sure about a particular game and you know that AI is giving you accurate predictions which had been making you to make huge profits, I know their will be a time when you will want to use big stake to bet so you can make huge profits.

Yes, if AI had that power, some gamblers would have become rich by now and gambling platforms would have shut down, so there would have been no such big change in the industry in a short period of time. I must admit that AI works, but it is not guaranteed. Sometimes you benefit from the results of AI and sometimes you do worse. In gambling, a gambler is always interested in winning. If a gambler starts winning using AI, then at some point he will increase the amount of his bet, it is normal, and at some point he may lose everything again. In the case of gambling, relying on an AI will increase the chances of a gambler winning, which is completely wrong.

[CryptSafe]

If ai can help you win in sports betting, don't you think we would have closed down so many bookies and the ones that are left would be on their way down. Ai can help you do your analysis, the same way you can do it without using ai, it does not increase your chances of winning. If you are lucky, you win; if you are not, the bookies take your money.

you think that if it is something that would have been possible for AI to help us to win gambling many people have not done it since and make sure that the bankrupt gambling website, it is not easy because AI is a programming machine it does not detect future with only programs so using AI to gamble cannot to give you any accuracy it is better that you make a research about gambling that will give you a possible way for you to win in gambling than using Al as tools

If AI analysis is very accurate in making sport betting predictions, many casinos would have home bankrupt because of so many wins from gamblers using big stake to bet on different casinos just to make high profits. If you are sure about a particular game and you know that AI is giving you accurate predictions which had been making you to make huge profits, I know their will be a time when you will want to use big stake to bet so you can make huge profits.

AI can never give you a good bet odds to play with, it only gives you analysis of data already programmed and uploaded via the Internet which are results of past events that has already taken place. So based on such, you can make your conclusion with your current research with the information you already have at hand fully knowing about the current form and formation of the team involved in the game. Anything outside this, you are on your own so it is better to not depend on AI for bet odds.

[uneng]

Ask AI to analyze some info for you or stuff like that but take it all with a grain of salt.. best thing to do is analyzing things yourself.. if AI predicted the future well everyone used it already by now.. to win the lottery and shit like that.. but it's trained on human data which isn't perfect, it'll always make errors

I think we overuse AI and it is a problem a lot of us have. One thing about AI is that no matter what you ask you are always going to get a response and this doesn't mean that it's accurate. Just because we get predictions from it doesn't mean that AI predicts the future otherwise people would be making a lot of money from betting.

I noticed AIs avoid answering they don't know a determined subject. Rather, they answer anything when they don't know what to reply accurately. That is a big risk for gamblers, because they might have the wrong perception the AI knows what it's talking about, although it has no clue.

More interesting yet is that when you tell AI to be wrong, it immediately apologizes and delivers another nonsense reply as consequence. Almost like a short circuit on its system.

[Patikno]

Has anyone here tried building something like this, even as a personal project? And do you think AI can create a real edge in sports betting, or is it mostly hype for now?

If you try AI in sports betting once and it works, I do not still think that it can be correct all the time, And it it will be very dangerous for you to become dependent on this as a way to gamble because you will be taking bets blindly.
It will be okay to use AI to do some research to help you make a better decision, not hand the entire job of decision making to AI to do for you. It is not different from just taking bets from another person to play as some peoplle use to do.

As far as I know, AI still has limited data on sports, and the highly dynamic nature of changes in sports requires the most up-to-date information to make more accurate predictions. This is especially true, if the AI ​​is specifically trained for sports, analyzing important data that will be summarized to generate predictions based on highly relevant reasoning.

Personally, I don't know if there is AI specifically for sports betting, as I am not yet interested in trying to find out. However, I think sites with real-time sports data are best suited to provide this type of AI, and they might be able to create AI models that can really help with sports betting. IMO.

[livingfree]

I think we overuse AI and it is a problem a lot of us have. One thing about AI is that no matter what you ask you are always going to get a response and this doesn't mean that it's accurate. Just because we get predictions from it doesn't mean that AI predicts the future otherwise people would be making a lot of money from betting.

In this day, overusing it is normal. Because of many free credits that we get, it's not a problem if we overuse it because there's still limits in it.

But to rely on the bets asked to them, they'll just give the stats and analysis that they have gathered online.

Someone who's new to the usage of it will realize that eventually and that's not a good thing.

[Saltysugar99]

do you think AI can create a real edge in sports betting, or is it mostly hype for now?

AI can give you better statistics if you know how to train it, if you know what data to add, and if you give it access to real-time sports information. It could be a good source of statistical information because of its ability to easily find patterns in the data. It will never be a 100% sure bet due to randomness and external factors, but it could be very helpful. I'm not talking about asking ChatGPT, which is more generalized; I'm talking about something you train yourself specifically for this purpose.

If you can train it properly or provide proper true data storage and access, AI will analysis the possible team and give predictions based on which team is strong. But during live match, many things can happen. The AI ​​predict the strong team and give feed back  according to that the strong team will win . You yourself also understand that the chances of that team winning are high, but just think after the match started, it was seen that a player from the strong team got a red card and went off the field and a strong impactful player had to come out of the game due to injury. Then according to those statistics, if the strong team becomes weak, then its chances of losing become higher. So anything can happen until the match ends and the result is known.

[NurseHub]

Since ChatGPT came out in late 2022, AI has become mainstream enough that almost every industry has people trying to plug it into something. But I’m curious about sports betting specifically.

Is anyone here actually building or testing anything serious around AI and sports betting?

I don’t mean those random “AI prediction” websites that just say Team A will win,  Team B will lose, and gate it behind a paid service, and then disappear when the pick fails. I mean proper systems that try to model games, compare bookmaker odds, track closing line value, separate strong picks from watchlist picks, or even handle bankroll/risk decisions better.

For example, I’ve been playing around with the idea of a football betting system that does more than just predict match winners. Something that looks at team strength, expected goals, home/away scoring rates, goal probability models and using all of that data to make a goal grid to predict the probability of a fixture ending in over 1.5, over 2.5, etc.

The more I look at it, the more I feel AI may be more useful as a research assistant than as a magic prediction machine. Maybe it can help organize data, spot weak markets, compare lines across bookmakers, explain why a bet is risky, or separate “looks good” picks from bets that actually have some value behind them.

So far, I have had 2 wins and 1 loss and each bet was an acca of 2-4 odds.

Has anyone here tried building something like this, even as a personal project? And do you think AI can create a real edge in sports betting, or is it mostly hype for now?

‎Bet prediction isn't for Ai, they can't help predict games. Gambling is basically a game of luck, I think from that 2022 Ai because more active, if it was good at prediction, the bookies would have done something mysterious  with it by providing more games to even crash the gambling companies. But Ai can only function in providing previous informations and not future information in gambling. That's to say, Ai will only talk about match that has been played instead of telling you how the next one will be played.

[Fredomago]

I think we overuse AI and it is a problem a lot of us have. One thing about AI is that no matter what you ask you are always going to get a response and this doesn't mean that it's accurate. Just because we get predictions from it doesn't mean that AI predicts the future otherwise people would be making a lot of money from betting.

In this day, overusing it is normal. Because of many free credits that we get, it's not a problem if we overuse it because there's still limits in it.

But to rely on the bets asked to them, they'll just give the stats and analysis that they have gathered online.

Someone who's new to the usage of it will realize that eventually and that's not a good thing.

Yeah, because of those free services or information that we can get online though still even how good the statistics there's no guarantee that by following or using their informtion will give you a sure win, there's still a need of your own understanding and effort plus the most important thing, there's luck and it will follow when it backing you after placing your bets.

[mitchr4]

I think we overuse AI and it is a problem a lot of us have. One thing about AI is that no matter what you ask you are always going to get a response and this doesn't mean that it's accurate. Just because we get predictions from it doesn't mean that AI predicts the future otherwise people would be making a lot of money from betting.

In this day, overusing it is normal. Because of many free credits that we get, it's not a problem if we overuse it because there's still limits in it.

But to rely on the bets asked to them, they'll just give the stats and analysis that they have gathered online.

Someone who's new to the usage of it will realize that eventually and that's not a good thing.

Personally I have never used AI for sports betting, but I still think it has value as a tool for analyzing stats and trends. The problem is that the real outcome of a game depends on too many things that AI simply cannot predict, including our own decisions. Using it as a reference is perfectly fine, but treating it as the main decision is where most people go wrong.

[SquallLeonhart]

It is not really responsible to imagine that you are going to make money using AII. This is coming from the same mindset that people follow signal groups, betting tippers, and pump/dump groups. The logic is all the same in all of them, "there must be a way where I just let go all of my own free will, and someone else makes money for me.

In other cases, you see a group that does pump and dump, and you just buy when they tell you to buy or sell when they tell you to sell. Or in signal groups, there is a signal and you buy, and a signal and you sell, you do not actually do any thinking of yourself, someone else does that for you. In this case, you are giving all of it to AI, and you are just doing whatever AI tells you to.

[Achalugo BTC]

Yeah, because of those free services or information that we can get online though still even how good the statistics there's no guarantee that by following or using their informtion will give you a sure win, there's still a need of your own understanding and effort plus the most important thing, there's luck and it will follow when it backing you after placing your bets.

gambling is a game of luck and the more we get to realize this the better for us, and the more we will stop relying on AI models or even our own skills. the truth is that, even when we add our own analysis, we still can't beat the system, we still need luck on our side, because without luck, winning isn't always as possible as we might think it to be.