Do you think bookies knows team to win?

[rachael9385]

One thing I can assure you about the bookies is that they are experts in prediction based on analysis. The bookies are like every other bettor out there. With the current performance of the teams to play, they use those stats to arrange the odd but this time they are arranging the odd to favor the house not the bettors. In addition, bookies dont know for sure which team will win because sometime the favorite team end up losing.

That's a fact that most people fail to realize, the bettors are not just the one that are good at predicting and also doing technical analysis, most times the bookies are way ahead already because they have all the necessary informations needed but sometimes it doesn't really work In their favour. This tells you that there's nothing guaranteed In betting.

[mirakal]

That's a fact that most people fail to realize, the bettors are not just the one that are good at predicting and also doing technical analysis, most times the bookies are way ahead already because they have all the necessary informations needed but sometimes it doesn't really work In their favour. This tells you that there's nothing guaranteed In betting.

If that is true, then what would it really do to us?

I mean, let’s say they have information and they know who will win. We are still only given two sides to choose from. Either we bet on the correct side or the wrong side, but it does not automatically mean we are being forced to lose.

Some people probably misunderstand how a sportsbook works. It is not exactly the same as a casino game where you are directly betting against the house. In sports betting, the bookie is mostly taking action on both sides and earning from the margin. So even if we speculate that they know something, at the end of the day, we still make our own pick. If we picked wrong, that is still on us. The bigger mistake is thinking every losing bet happened because the bookie already planned it against us.

[GxSTxV]

From what I have observed or been noticing about bookies. Do you think they do have professionals who gambles and gives them analysis on every match that is to play or featured on their gambling site.

Next, do you also think that is those people that gives them the out before they allocates odds to teams that are playing on that week, and they would use such statistics to analyze odds and distribute them to club that are to play.

Lastly; Do you also think that they go book those games on other gambling site? Do you also think that they should be restricted from Gambling casinos operator shouldn't bet or other gambling site because they could exploit the site with reason that they are casino owners which should be restricted because they could use the advantage of them knowing how everything works to scam others?
Just as they ban players not to gamble.

Simply, they work with statistics from different sources and they analyze everything to determine the odds. But rest assured no matter what, the bookie will always win overall.

Logically, if the bookies already know the results, they will also bet or play with the odds for their favor. I believe that nobody really have the courage to do such things against other casinos because there are organizations and governments verifying such things.

[nelson4lov]

I think it's just maths at the end of the day. Bookies set the odds at prices they think it should be but if you see a market that the bookies priced differently and you think there is higher probability of the event happening than the bookies are quoting it, you should definitely take the bet. Everyday, I see markets that bookies price at 30% to 50% chances all happening so I tend to think that it's just probabilities, maths and ball knowledge at the end of the day.

[criptoevangelista]

As far as I know, there are even professionals who provide consulting on game statistics. However, finding professionals like that working for casinos is unlikely—what they want is more and more bets. Regardless of the outcome, the house always wins, so they need to maintain credibility with the players to keep their business sustainable over time. I don't believe any serious casino would mess with that.

[Orpichukwu]

If I say that the bettors know which team will win, then it will be wrong, and if I say that the bettors do not know which team will win, then it will also be wrong. Because a professional bettor can always analyze the matches well in the case of sports betting and place bets, since they are always betting, their predictions are often correct. Since in sports betting, there is an opportunity to bet on the favorite team by analyzing, so if someone can analyze and place bets correctly, then the chances of winning will also increase.

If I also tell you that I believe in those so-called professional bettors, I'm also wrong. There are people who are good at betting based on experience, but they don't know it all. They make predictions and sometimes feel like they got it all right, but the result always comes the opposite. Nobody knows the outcome of the game; they just expect and make predictions based on the data they have at hand.

[Wakate]

One thing I can assure you about the bookies is that they are experts in prediction based on analysis. The bookies are like every other bettor out there. With the current performance of the teams to play, they use those stats to arrange the odd but this time they are arranging the odd to favor the house not the bettors. In addition, bookies dont know for sure which team will win because sometime the favorite team end up losing.

Yeah, it'll only require someone with some kind of psychic powers to be able to actually tell which team is gonna win, so no one really knows the exact outcome of any game, not the gamblers, not the bookies, not even those who fixes the matches, except of course the game was somehow rigged or the game's outcome was already fixed or decided before it even started, we can find this in some small leagues, asides that, there's no way for people to know the exact outcome of any game.

By guessing, you could know what team is going to win a match even if it may not happen often. Gambling is all about timing as being able to time the randomness of an event so you can know the possiblity of it happening even if it's not going to be 100% certain.
There are many ways to predict the outcome of a match and anyone you are familiar with, you need to continue using it.

[abaeze]

In my opinion, bookies usually do not know for sure in advance which team will win. Instead, they set the odds by calculating probabilities or possibilities. Because no one gambles with the amount of statistics and internal information they have and for many reasons odds changes middle of the game. In fact, the goal of bookies is not to predict who will win but to create a balanced market and maintain the house edge. So they set the odds in such a way that no matter which team wins, the bookmaker will profit in the long run.

[Fredomago]

One thing I can assure you about the bookies is that they are experts in prediction based on analysis. The bookies are like every other bettor out there. With the current performance of the teams to play, they use those stats to arrange the odd but this time they are arranging the odd to favor the house not the bettors. In addition, bookies dont know for sure which team will win because sometime the favorite team end up losing.

That's a fact that most people fail to realize, the bettors are not just the one that are good at predicting and also doing technical analysis, most times the bookies are way ahead already because they have all the necessary informations needed but sometimes it doesn't really work In their favour. This tells you that there's nothing guaranteed In betting.

They use system that more advance compared to a normal human knowledge, there are factors that may affect their position and how they facilatate placing odds for certain game, though at the end of the day the result depends from how players or teams execute their system no one can tell accurately whether who's going to win even bookies are also waiting for the result as what we are seeing those heavy favorites got upset and lose the game.

[impulse709]

If I say that the bettors know which team will win, then it will be wrong, and if I say that the bettors do not know which team will win, then it will also be wrong. Because a professional bettor can always analyze the matches well in the case of sports betting and place bets, since they are always betting, their predictions are often correct. Since in sports betting, there is an opportunity to bet on the favorite team by analyzing, so if someone can analyze and place bets correctly, then the chances of winning will also increase.

If I also tell you that I believe in those so-called professional bettors, I'm also wrong. There are people who are good at betting based on experience, but they don't know it all. They make predictions and sometimes feel like they got it all right, but the result always comes the opposite. Nobody knows the outcome of the game; they just expect and make predictions based on the data they have at hand.

I see your point and agree with it. Even experienced bettors and bookmakers are unable to predict the winners. They have no idea of the individual players and only make predictions using statistics, team form, injuries, head to head etc. The analysis is sometimes right on the money. But football and sports are still unpredictable. As surprises occur regularly. Hence underdogs can still beat stronger teams in an unexpected manner. The primary concern of the bookies is to balance odds and generate a profit in the long term. And not necessarily to have an idea of the winning combination of every game. After all, everything to do with betting is based on probability not certainty.

[junder]

It's all only your assumption because the fact bookies acted as intermediaries between gamblers and the sites. They much more like a facilitator for the gamblers. However, the gamblers itself who will determine whether they will win or not.

It means bookies have no idea what team to win. I think you're just getting paranoid then assume if bookies have control over everything while the fact they can't.

It's true what you said, with this statement, it can also be said that the bookie is like a third party or broker who is indeed an intermediary for gamblers who bet on the competing teams, it is unlikely that in my opinion the bookie knows which team will win and lose, even if their predictions are correct, it is nothing but luck too.

[Julien_Olynpic]

It's a ridiculous notion that bookmaker owners can know the outcome of matches beyond what's publicly available. If that were true, the bookmaking business itself would be obsolete. A bookmaker would simply need to place large bets on a few sports matches and become rich. Instead, bookmakers balance the money line. Believe me, a bookmaker isn't God. They're just ordinary businessmen who want to make money and eliminate the element of chance from their lives.

[Chinesebaby]

It's a ridiculous notion that bookmaker owners can know the outcome of matches beyond what's publicly available. If that were true, the bookmaking business itself would be obsolete. A bookmaker would simply need to place large bets on a few sports matches and become rich. Instead, bookmakers balance the money line. Believe me, a bookmaker isn't God. They're just ordinary businessmen who want to make money and eliminate the element of chance from their lives.

You have got a good point on what you just said above, because even the coach of the football team does not even know the outcome of the game his boys will be playing, talk more of the owner of a Sports booking site, as what they does is just analyze the games with the help of good Sport analylist and give odds to teams with respect of their previous performance and their chances of either winning or losing the particular game. Because truly if all Bookie owners were to know the outcome of each game, he or she would have probably take loan from bank, bet it on other website and makes huge profits in just a period of 90 minutes.

[Tungbulu]

That's a fact that most people fail to realize, the bettors are not just the one that are good at predicting and also doing technical analysis, most times the bookies are way ahead already because they have all the necessary informations needed but sometimes it doesn't really work In their favour. This tells you that there's nothing guaranteed In betting.

Right... Gambling is full of surprises, even for the bookies, because even they can be taken by surprise too, but one thing we should always remember, especially for the gamblers, is that analysis isn't everything, no matter how good the analysis are, it still doesn't change the house edge, because the odds will still continue to favour house, just just house gambling was designed to be and that's actually how it'll likely continue to be.

[m2017]

From what I have observed or been noticing about bookies. Do you think they do have professionals who gambles and gives them analysis on every match that is to play or featured on their gambling site.

Why? To risk money? Bookies are businessmen whose business consistently generates income. Gambling, from a player's perspective, is already a venture, and I'm sure bookies wouldn't engage in such a risky activity. Their goal is money, which means they're better off selling you the service (gambling).

Next, do you also think that is those people that gives them the out before they allocates odds to teams that are playing on that week, and they would use such statistics to analyze odds and distribute them to club that are to play.

I doubt it. It would look the same as if the alcohol seller were an alcoholic themselves.

Lastly; Do you also think that they go book those games on other gambling site? Do you also think that they should be restricted from Gambling casinos operator shouldn't bet or other gambling site because they could exploit the site with reason that they are casino owners which should be restricted because they could use the advantage of them knowing how everything works to scam others?
Just as they ban players not to gamble.

That is, do they use their "insider" (analytical) information to place bets?

How do you determine that a specific "front man" is betting in favor of the bookies (If bookies practice this)?

[Kelward]

One thing you need to know is that the bookies are also bettors just like you, it is you against them. From the odds arrangement it means that they know the team that has a high chance of winning but this doesn't mean that they are sure of it, that's the reason why I said that it's the prediction of the bettors against theirs.

I also see it from your perspective that it's not as if the bookmakers have a crystal ball that tells them exactly how a game will go, the difference between them and bettors is that they are very professional and they read between the lines than most of us. Aside from this it is like bettors are betting against the bookmakers because they set their odds against us and we are betting to beat their odds, although in the end they mostly have the upper hand but not all the time. I don't think that anybody even the bookmakers can accurately predict everything about a game unless they are involved in rigging it, if not they will be counting on luck to be accurate while we are also counting on luck to win.

[iv4n]

From what I have observed or been noticing about bookies. Do you think they do have professionals who gambles and gives them analysis on every match that is to play or featured on their gambling site.

Oh... they have analysts, statisticians, traders, mathematicians, risk teams, and all kinds of professionals behind the scenes. So odds are not random, they are based on data, probabilities, AI models, and some other stuff for sure...

Quick online search:

The biggest bookmaker / gambling company in the world is probably Flutter Entertainment — they own brands like FanDuel, Betfair, Paddy Power, PokerStars and others.

According to recent 2025 financial reports, they made around $16.4 billion revenue per year and had around 28,500 employees worldwide.

Lastly; Do you also think that they go book those games on other gambling site?

Well, this is some conspiracy theory... Bookies are making money from margins and volume, not because they can see the future and know what will happen. There are stories about betting syndicates and how big money can move the odds in their favor, but all that was possible before... I guess now it's tricky to do that on a global level.

Anyway, I wouldn't go this way... I am sure some "workers" do these things, but all big companies have internal rules, so they are probably risking their jobs if they are trying to cash out some insider info.

[danherbias07]

No, I don't think so.

They are posting odds and spreads because they are unsure what will happen. It's all just a prediction for them, too. Although sometimes, you can be surprised at how exact the number can be. It has happened to me many times, and I can say I am still surprised whenever I win with just 0.5 difference or 1.
Odds with x1.90 with a -5.5 spread, and the team won by 6 points. It's amazing how they can do that, like they really went deep to check all the records and stats. Still, there are times they make mistakes, like the underdog will win even if the spreads are at -15. Lucky are those who will place their bets on the underdog because they are definitely high multipliers.

[Nheer]

From what I have observed or been noticing about bookies. Do you think they do have professionals who gambles and gives them analysis on every match that is to play or featured on their gambling site.

Next, do you also think that is those people that gives them the out before they allocates odds to teams that are playing on that week, and they would use such statistics to analyze odds and distribute them to club that are to play.

Lastly; Do you also think that they go book those games on other gambling site? Do you also think that they should be restricted from Gambling casinos operator shouldn't bet or other gambling site because they could exploit the site with reason that they are casino owners which should be restricted because they could use the advantage of them knowing how everything works to scam others?
Just as they ban players not to gamble.

I don't think bookies know anything about the team's winning. Although the odds are not randomly formed but they are carefully analysed mostly by experts. These professionals put everything into consideration because forming the odds, like players injured, the motivation and current form of teams and several other things too. If they are sure of the odds they won't be going wrong in certain games like when Nottingham forest won against Chelsea at their home.

I think they might be using some Ai tool to distribute the odds for other teams as well.
I think casinos will will have a strict rule about gambling on games but some workers might decide to gamble secretly but when they are caught they might be penalized.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The first thing bookmakers rely on is called probability. They cannot know in advance about the outcome of the matches. But their statistics, which show the state of the teams at the time of the game and past games, allow them to calculate the coefficients. Again, in sporting events, there is always a chance that something may go against expectations, and bookmakers skillfully adjust their coefficients.