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May 12, 2026, 09:00:27 PM
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There will be no one who knows the outcome of the match including the bookmakers  they do that of course only the professional form they have in managing their business.  We as gamblers must be aware that when betting in sportsbooks the odds may match the guesses we have, it indicates that what we analyze looks quite the same as what the bookmakers think because they know how to judge a match.

But it's possible that they also know if the competition is small but for big competitions it's just that they are only professionals in the work they do to serve gamblers not that they know what will happen to the match.

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May 13, 2026, 04:48:58 PM
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Sometimes I also think like that, thinking that those sites have their people there, but then I realized that why do they need those people when they can make easy profits from people betting & they take advantage of the edge. So, thinking like that is wrong, the discussion will be different if we discuss match fixing, it is real & has happened in our country.
If there is a possibility for them to have access to more information than the bettor, don't you think they will grab it? But I guess there is no such chance other than the data everyone used to make their prediction; it's just that they have the upper hand to decide the odds more than we players. No matter how good we are, the vast majority can't get it all right, so those losing are still feeding them with the lose.

 
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May 13, 2026, 08:41:56 PM
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If they wouldn't use statistics and experts to determine the odds for their favor, where do you think those numbers on those odds would come from? Would they just type them out randomly?

And no. They don't KNOW the outcome, they only know the statistical changes combined with predictions made by team of specialists. Only way they would KNOW the winner, would be if they got some insider info for fixed matches.
Sure bookies have the tools that helps them to make odds decisions, there are not just making random decisions and letting bettors win everything, infact their have experts market analysts that take data of the market and make expert advice among other's, the ability for casino to make odds calculations is what make them remain I business just like how their make house edge on games that are in house games.
A bookie platform certainly doesn't think the way a normal bettor does. If a bookie did that, they wouldn't be able to survive in the gambling business. They definitely have better and higher level of information exchange than the average and they can review how to balance the odds. I sometimes wonder when I look at sports betting odds that in most causes the odds they set in advance and the result happening accordingly at the end of the game. Of course, if they didn't have strategy, they wouldn't be able to survive in such a situation as a gambling platform.











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May 13, 2026, 09:11:40 PM
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Sometimes I also think like that, thinking that those sites have their people there, but then I realized that why do they need those people when they can make easy profits from people betting & they take advantage of the edge. So, thinking like that is wrong, the discussion will be different if we discuss match fixing, it is real & has happened in our country.
If there is a possibility for them to have access to more information than the bettor, don't you think they will grab it? But I guess there is no such chance other than the data everyone used to make their prediction; it's just that they have the upper hand to decide the odds more than we players. No matter how good we are, the vast majority can't get it all right, so those losing are still feeding them with the lose.
There can be a bit of manipulation whe you bet on casino games but it will be very hard for casinos to manipulate a sport bet when the result is universal. I am not saying that there has not been stories of rigged games in sport betting but it is minimal to what we gamblers are seeing from playing slot games and other casino games.

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May 13, 2026, 09:51:07 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.

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May 13, 2026, 10:24:35 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.

I don't think they even need to release the info to their users or a select group of people because they can just take advantage of that information themselves and use it to place bets and win from their competitors. That seem like the most logical thing to do as bookies are running businesses with intentions of making money.  It's the same reason why some athletes take bets against themselves too because they make even more money by using the info themselves rather than sell or give it out.

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May 13, 2026, 10:32:16 PM
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Except those games or matches are scripted, nobody knows who will win not even FIFA but like I siad except the games aren't scripted.  Though sometimes the odds choice make you want to question the bookie how they managed to come up with those odds probably to lure bettor into picking them and at the end of the game the bet plays otherwise but as long as there is no evidence we certainly can't say our ideas are correct because it's what we feel. I've had several scenarios that made me want to question the bookie after the game why they didn't change the odds even after know that there where players that would miss the game.
If the game was scripted, the bookies wont know which team would win. The match organizers are different from the bookies. The duty of the bookies is to set the odds standard for the sportsbook. Most of them do not know what game has been fixed and which have not. However, what the bookies do so much is to pick odds that will favor the house more than the bettors. In our generation, match fixing is not really a thing anymore due to strict regulation and investigation done after each match day.
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May 13, 2026, 10:43:24 PM
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In our generation, match fixing is not really a thing anymore due to strict regulation and investigation done after each match day.

Even if fixed games are really a thing, it still does not guarantee that we will win because we have no idea which game is actually fixed.

Those people saying they know which games are fixed and they have insider information are most likely just spreading lies. Honestly, only desperate gamblers would easily believe that, and some are even willing to pay for the tip because they think they already found the jackpot.

But that is just a false illusion. Because of our desperation to win in sports betting, sometimes we start believing stupid things, and in the end, it only results in wasting more money.

 
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May 13, 2026, 10:51:59 PM
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There will be no one who knows the outcome of the match including the bookmakers  they do that of course only the professional form they have in managing their business.  We as gamblers must be aware that when betting in sportsbooks the odds may match the guesses we have, it indicates that what we analyze looks quite the same as what the bookmakers think because they know how to judge a match.

But it's possible that they also know if the competition is small but for big competitions it's just that they are only professionals in the work they do to serve gamblers not that they know what will happen to the match.
One thing i know about the allocation of odds by book makers is that the prediction is done based on some criterias which is there consistency levels,  players injuries and other criterias but not because they are aware on what the outcome of the games may be at last.
Assuming the outcome of games are known before the games the value of football would have been lost as the joy of football comes because the outcome of that game is still unknown till the end of the game. Therefore I will say there is nothing like knowing the outcome of games before the game is played

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May 13, 2026, 10:58:06 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
But that's not going to happen unless it's a prediction market and there's an insider towards it.

They'll take advantage of it if ever they have a foresight of what can happen with that specific event or game.

It sucks when there are insiders to these events because they can bet on it and win a lot of money. We seen that happen during the war in Iran.

Too many accounts opened in polymarket and took advantage of it.


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May 13, 2026, 11:28:45 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
Can the bookmakers really place a bet? Even if the particular team to win would they not be restricted? I haven't given this much thought before but if this actually happened the bookmakers are consistently going to be making profit coupled with what they make money off bettors daily

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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
Can the bookmakers really place a bet? Even if the particular team to win would they not be restricted? I haven't given this much thought before but if this actually happened the bookmakers are consistently going to be making profit coupled with what they make money off bettors daily
Actually, they can't do anything if the game is not a commanded game like in the minor leagues. But if the game is in the big leagues then no manipulation is done.
The bookie will only make a profit from the bets made by the player, from the fees charged to the bettors, that is enough for the bookie.
If the bookmaker wants to make more profits, then there are many strategies that can be used.

The bookies that benefited from the match were arranged and some did well but some got caught and got heavily sanctioned.

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May 14, 2026, 03:30:20 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
Can the bookmakers really place a bet? Even if the particular team to win would they not be restricted? I haven't given this much thought before but if this actually happened the bookmakers are consistently going to be making profit coupled with what they make money off bettors daily
Actually, they can't do anything if the game is not a commanded game like in the minor leagues. But if the game is in the big leagues then no manipulation is done.
The bookie will only make a profit from the bets made by the player, from the fees charged to the bettors, that is enough for the bookie.
If the bookmaker wants to make more profits, then there are many strategies that can be used.

The bookies that benefited from the match were arranged and some did well but some got caught and got heavily sanctioned.
You have done a good job, as mentioned, with all things about bookies and their profit because I also personally have a feeling they usually never bet because they have enough profit through their markets and other bettors money, which is enough for them.
In our local market, one thing is always famous if any bookmaker places bets, he usually faces problems, while if someone is just going through commission from bettors, he lives long and has enough profit for the rest of his life.
Recently too many matches and other things are helping bookies stay active and have enough profit, but they always need to stay balanced.
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May 14, 2026, 04:10:12 PM
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This people bookies knows the game but not professionals they can also be gamblers or football analyst, they give those odd base on club performance and how inform a clue is at that time. Sometimes people thinks before a bookies gives a smaller odd that they know they are going to win odds are just number they don't determine which club to win, smaller odds wins matches bigger odds also wins matches so odds are given by club performance and that bookies knows teams to win before giving out odds.

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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
If they know who will win it can also be used as a weapon to reap the benefits of their competitor casinos, talking insiders is not necessarily certain, unless one or two matches are funded by them to arrange but that is not an easy situation because there must be a lot of costs that must be incurred and have a safe way that is very difficult because if caught will make everything a mess of reputation that will be the risk of such actions, I still strongly believe that casinos do not know which team will win they only see the potential.

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May 14, 2026, 04:19:05 PM
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If the bookies know the thing that will win a game in gambling, the most of them that are in charge of it would have been playing bet or releasing cheats to gamblers and the whole process would have been unreliable, because the casino will be cheated in so doing and many gamblers we have opportunity of winning than losing, since they have an insider that gives them information being an informant.
If they know who will win it can also be used as a weapon to reap the benefits of their competitor casinos, talking insiders is not necessarily certain, unless one or two matches are funded by them to arrange but that is not an easy situation because there must be a lot of costs that must be incurred and have a safe way that is very difficult because if caught will make everything a mess of reputation that will be the risk of such actions, I still strongly believe that casinos do not know which team will win they only see the potential.

They definitely don’t know who will win. They have a good data source for their sports analysis that’s why they can provide an odds that is suitable for the winning percentage but just like us they are blind on the result.

House edge on each betting option gives them a guaranteed win without relying to an accurate sports analysis.

Maybe they have some insider info such as injury report in advance that can impact the game but not the result.

 
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If they know who will win it can also be used as a weapon to reap the benefits of their competitor casinos, talking insiders is not necessarily certain, unless one or two matches are funded by them to arrange but that is not an easy situation because there must be a lot of costs that must be incurred and have a safe way that is very difficult because if caught will make everything a mess of reputation that will be the risk of such actions, I still strongly believe that casinos do not know which team will win they only see the potential.

They definitely don’t know who will win. They have a good data source for their sports analysis that’s why they can provide an odds that is suitable for the winning percentage but just like us they are blind on the result.

House edge on each betting option gives them a guaranteed win without relying to an accurate sports analysis.

Maybe they have some insider info such as injury report in advance that can impact the game but not the result.
Their information channels may be more numerous and closer, but the injury report we can also see it because it's an open report at the moment, who is injured and who is not and we can know the effect depending on who is injured, for adjustments to the match still no one knows how, but if someone in management leaks it it's tantamount to collusion if that's the case.
 
It is clear that they have the advantage of the bookie offering gamblers an option to bet and the loser is a win for them.

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I think that bookmakers do not interfere too much with this because what they value most is their reputation with clients. They will not show this because then there may be a risk that many players will refuse this bookmaker who shows this. Personally, as a player, I would absolutely not want the bookmaker I play for to have too much information about the games. Of course, I understand that they own large statistics and databases, as well as computers that analyze many streams of information. Probably the bookmakers have an agreement not to interfere in matches or something like that, but this is just my guess.

 
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I am not saying that there has not been stories of rigged games in sport betting but it is minimal to what we gamblers are seeing from playing slot games and other casino games.

In this case which is not actually about rigging matches, perhaps if a match is rigged to the advantage of some whale bettors, the bookie might not be involved because it's a lose for them knowing that the game was rigged to favour some of their customers that has staked a huge amount. The discussion now which is about whether the bookies will know a game's outcomes whether it's rigged or not, is that possible? I already said, it's not possible because them bookies don't see the future before it happens.

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May 14, 2026, 06:17:09 PM
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I think that bookmakers do not interfere too much with this because what they value most is their reputation with clients. They will not show this because then there may be a risk that many players will refuse this bookmaker who shows this. Personally, as a player, I would absolutely not want the bookmaker I play for to have too much information about the games. Of course, I understand that they own large statistics and databases, as well as computers that analyze many streams of information. Probably the bookmakers have an agreement not to interfere in matches or something like that, but this is just my guess.
Yes, bookmakers do not have any miraculous powers that can help them win completely. Bookmakers usually observe every point of the game well and research it well, use strategies and they have enough information about a match and based on that information they make a prediction and as a result they win. However, bookmakers' predictions are not always correct, no matter how confirm they are, the results are unpredictable, the style of the game can change at any time, the results can be reversed. Research is very important to win and luck is also needed.

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