Negative trust from holydarkness – time to address the real problem: [holy POV]

[holydarkness]

Holy, do you have an issue with AI? 🤖

I personally don’t think consulting with AI or various external sources is a bad thing. It’s weird to infer or make the assumption that the use of AI or consulting in general is a bad thing, or is that just a feeling?

My apology to delete your previous post, I read that as a derailment attempt the first time, but then... thanks to your second post [of which a copy], I'll say it open for a discussion that will pave way further the resolution. So,

No, I don't have issue with AI, as long as the consulting remains at that: to consult and to do DD. I do them myself every now and then to see if my understanding of a situation is correct or there are facts that I don't know. I'll emphasize this to prevent word twisting: I use that to consult and check whether or not what I will post contain bias from my own misinformation.

Consulting with AI is a good way for "outsourcing" knowledge and updating one with most recent situation, of which I asked Rating Place to do, over and over, about "turn-key" system in provider-sportsbook dynamic.

But that's the extent of it: to consult.

The use of it to heavily use Artificial Intelligence and Generative Pre-Trained Transformer and Large Language Model to create an endless loop of fallacies because the AI are programmed to defend the user by the user prompt of "debate this so I sounded right", is what's wrong.

Right, I too view it as a derailment of sorts. More like deflection. AI is not the problem here but you made it relevant when it never had to be. If you don’t want AI to be a topic or a source of derailment don’t use it to deflect.

And the essence of your post will be...?

Because I clearly show the use of AI when I try to get Rating Place to understand turnkey model is what sportsbook use now [well, part if not most of them]. I am not against them as long as they're used in the way they're designed to be: to help you understand things. That is what the extent of what an AI and GPT and LLM should be wisely used, to enrich one's knowledge and "database", not to create and endless fallacies where a human logic tried their best to get the Generative Pre-Trained Transformers to understand, while the one who hold the leash of the GPT to keeps bulling on the point just to be the last one speaking.

So, again, your point?

[Kazkaz27]

And the essence of your post will be...?

Because I clearly show the use of AI when I try to get Rating Place to understand turnkey model is what sportsbook use now [well, part if not most of them]. I am not against them as long as they're used in the way they're designed to be: to help you understand things. That is what the extent of what an AI and GPT and LLM should be wisely used, to enrich one's knowledge and "database", not to create and endless fallacies where a human logic tried their best to get the Generative Pre-Trained Transformers to understand, while the one who hold the leash of the GPT to keeps bulling on the point just to be the last one speaking.

So, again, your point?

I’m glad it seems we have some common ground regarding AI. My overall point to everyone is don’t bash people for consulting AI. It’s a helpful tool. Refrain from making it a deflection. It’s irrelevant unless made relevant. The whole AI thing is redundant here. No one needs to justify their use of it.

[nutildah]

...That is what the extent of what an AI and GPT and LLM should be wisely used, to enrich one's knowledge and "database", not to create and endless fallacies where a human logic tried their best to get the Generative Pre-Trained Transformers to understand, while the one who hold the leash of the GPT to keeps bulling on the point just to be the last one speaking.

So, again, your point?

I’m glad it seems we have some common ground regarding AI. My overall point to everyone is don’t bash people for consulting AI.

Here's the problem: you just did the thing he's referencing by creating a new fallacy, and it doesn't matter if you used AI to do it or not. Nobody "bashed" anyone for "consulting AI." This is something you just made up right now. You would rather keep moving the goalposts than address valid points made by people you have personal disagreements with.

AI simply accelerates pre-existing behaviors characteristic of the user:

A coder will use it to advance their coding output.
A marketer will use it to advance their marketing strategy.
An artist will use it to advance their art.
A spammer will use it to advance their spam.
A bullshitter will use it to advance their bullshit.

[Kazkaz27]

...That is what the extent of what an AI and GPT and LLM should be wisely used, to enrich one's knowledge and "database", not to create and endless fallacies where a human logic tried their best to get the Generative Pre-Trained Transformers to understand, while the one who hold the leash of the GPT to keeps bulling on the point just to be the last one speaking.

So, again, your point?

I’m glad it seems we have some common ground regarding AI. My overall point to everyone is don’t bash people for consulting AI.

Here's the problem: you just did the thing he's referencing by creating a new fallacy, and it doesn't matter if you used AI to do it or not. Nobody "bashed" anyone for "consulting AI." This is something you just made up right now. You would rather keep moving the goalposts than address valid points made by people you have personal disagreements with.

AI simply accelerates pre-existing behaviors characteristic of the user:

A coder will use it to advance their coding output.
A marketer will use it to advance their marketing strategy.
An artist will use it to advance their art.
A spammer will use it to advance their spam.
A bullshitter will use it to advance their bullshit.

You are quite literally the biggest AI basher of all time, and you created the most hypocritical thread I think the forum may have ever seen. Your AI “SPAM” THREAD frequently bashes AI and other people’s use of it. It ironically uses AI to do it, and it duplicates the very “trash” you claim you wish to dispose of. Let people use it how they see fit. You have not been the best judge of character in my experience or the most brilliant. So, oh please, almighty NUT, leave people alone.

[holydarkness]

My personal apology, nutildah and Kazkaz27, batch of your post has to be removed as it walked way too far from the main issue of this thread. I'll advise Kazkaz27 to not create yet another "RE" thread in reflect of the removal, as basically what's removed is the "monolog" between you and Rating Place... of which... already has their own home Re: DT1 Operational Security: Why Engagement Is a Trap.

Now, returning to our discussion, Rating Place, mind to be transparent and fair and provide us with the prompt you inputted to the GPT to bring you such result?


Edit: Second-to-Original post #66 deleted and archived. It didn't answer directly and deflect the simple question above, a clear deflection and a possible telltale that the result of the "AI research" being quoted here were heavily doctored.

And yes, by all means, reopen your unmoderated thread, I'll explain in abundance there. The more thread about your incompetence, the more record it will have, scattered in as many thread as it possibly can.

[holydarkness]

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No one, literally no one, on that thread stick to match fixing after that explanation, as they understand now that the real confiction and what we try to prove or disprove is a situation where the player give access of their account to someone else, to put high wagers, in [presumably] certain profit-sharing agreement.

The only being who stick to yell "no match fixing" was and is you, all while the other ignore as you put yourself in a position in a way that's no longer can be lower than rock bottom.

Now, I've addressed the matter: no match fixing. I've explained in abundant, I'll respect it if you can move to this twin sister's thread and address my point: the prompt that you placed to the LLM/GPT/AI to produce such explanation of turnkey.

Failed to do this, I will be forced to see it as the last strand of attempt to deflect, that you learned that turnkey model actually force casino [sportsbook] to obey the flag, and thus you lost your wager with me, where I stake my reputation and my DT1 status and you "took the bait" and entered it with agreement to pay me 1,560,000 USD.

Failed to address the matter on my side of the twin-thread that's heavily moderated for the sole purpose of keeping you from deflecting and running away by smoke and mirror, and I will issue the receiving address for 1,560,000 USD by 24 hours at the soonest, and in 48 hours following the address, if the fund is yet to be credited, it shall be perceived as violation of our contract and I am forced to raise a flag against your account.

[Rating Place]

[...]
No one, literally no one, on that thread stick to match fixing after that explanation, as they understand now that the real confiction and what we try to prove or disprove is a situation where the player give access of their account to someone else, to put high wagers, in [presumably] certain profit-sharing agreement.

The only being who stick to yell "no match fixing" was and is you, all while the other ignore as you put yourself in a position in a way that's no longer can be lower than rock bottom.

Now, I've addressed the matter: no match fixing. I've explained in abundant, I'll respect it if you can move to this twin sister's thread and address my point: the prompt that you placed to the LLM/GPT/AI to produce such explanation of turnkey.

Failed to do this, I will be forced to see it as the last strand of attempt to deflect, that you learned that turnkey model actually force casino [sportsbook] to obey the flag, and thus you lost your wager with me, where I stake my reputation and my DT1 status and you "took the bait" and entered it with agreement to pay me 1,560,000 USD.

Failed to address the matter on my side of the twin-thread that's heavily moderated for the sole purpose of keeping you from deflecting and running away by smoke and mirror, and I will issue the receiving address for 1,560,000 USD by 24 hours at the soonest, and in 48 hours following the address, if the fund is yet to be credited, it shall be perceived as violation of our contract and I am forced to raise a flag against your account.

Start a thread for the contract. You offered a bet, I didn’t reply. You changed the terms of the bet and said it’s binding.

This is the problem. You are a liar. You also go forever.

Stop worrying about me and get the player paid his $30,000.

[notblox1]

If I can give holydarkness one small advice that would be to ignore that Rat member, that is based on my experience with him.
Few years ago I noticed him selling his snake oil wisdom and he abused trust in my case, but I also heard he was doing some shady things with his list.
I am trying to stay away from reputation board but I had to write something once I saw your topic.

[Rating Place]

If I can give holydarkness one small advice that would be to ignore that Rat member, that is based on my experience with him.
Few years ago I noticed him selling his snake oil wisdom and he abused trust in my case, but I also heard he was doing some shady things with his list.
I am trying to stay away from reputation board but I had to write something once I saw your topic.

Notblox is back. Only 2 people that have ever stalked me and that’s notblox and Nut. notblox stalked me because I gave his book a “C”.  I have no one on my trust list. If you mean ratings guide, I rarely bump the thread. It’s lie after lie with you guys.

[holydarkness]

Start a thread for the contract. You offered a bet, I didn’t reply. You changed the terms of the bet and said it’s binding.

This is the problem. You are a liar. You also go forever.

Stop worrying about me and get the player paid his $30,000.

Did you not read the opening post? The thread for the contract is this very one. That is why I made it self-moderated, to keep it focused; as well as to violate Loyce's cardinal rule of support/oppose flag, so I can't ask DT "and his cronies" to gain support. When the thread reached its end and you come out as someone who destabilize the forum balance and violate our agreement, then I am forced to flag you with this thread as reference, because you're failed to pay me 1,560,000 USD and understand the concept of turnkey and all that entails, and thus wreak havoc and derail every mediation thread in SA with "flag is just a flag, while quick trip to the internet will teach you a lot about turnkey.

So again, I ask, for the sake to prove to the overseers that you're honest and not a manipulator, a "snake" if I may borrow someone's word when they saw me interacted with you years ago, that I decide to ignore to give you benefit of doubts: what prompt do you put on the GPT that bear result on #54?

Because it clearly paint different narrative [one that strangely works in your favor, without a clear prompt] while mine come in form of screenshots with clear prompt and questions, one that I think the forum would agree is the acceptable to use AI: to gain better insight and knowledge.

The 30,000 USD has their own thread, so stop "worrying" about it as a facade to your own attempt to throw smoke bomb and flee.

If I can give holydarkness one small advice that would be to ignore that Rat member, that is based on my experience with him.
Few years ago I noticed him selling his snake oil wisdom and he abused trust in my case, but I also heard he was doing some shady things with his list.
I am trying to stay away from reputation board but I had to write something once I saw your topic.

Thank you for your suggestion.

How I wish I can. I ignored this person in hope that I can focus on case mediation, literally put him on ignore that I can't read what he wrote, only to find out that he encouraged members that I am a criminal and that cooperating with me will get them lost their fund. He posted misleading post, conclusion, and suggestion, that put him on ignore poses far greater risk as his "snake oil wisdom" are kept unchecked.

Notblox is back. Only 2 people that have ever stalked me and that’s notblox and Nut. notblox stalked me because I gave his book a “C”.  I have no one on my trust list. It’s lie after lie with you guys.

Probably more will come, following your epic mediation peak performance by "flag time" that clearly show the gross misconduct of a mediator. One thing for sure though: if you keep evading the question, while this thread's purpose is to bury the hatchet and clear everything, I'll have to bill you 1,560,000 USD for your failure in keeping with our agreement.

Remember, "you took the bait again", idiomatically, you consciously entered the agreement.

[Rating Place]

Start a thread for the contract. You offered a bet, I didn’t reply. You changed the terms of the bet and said it’s binding.

This is the problem. You are a liar. You also go forever.

Stop worrying about me and get the player paid his $30,000.

Did you not read the opening post? The thread for the contract is this very one. That is why I made it self-moderated, to keep it focused; as well as to violate Loyce's cardinal rule of support/oppose flag, so I can't ask DT "and his cronies" to gain support. When the thread reached its end and you come out as someone who destabilize the forum balance and violate our agreement, then I am forced to flag you with this thread as reference, because you're failed to pay me 1,560,000 USD and understand the concept of turnkey and all that entails, and thus wreak havoc and derail every mediation thread in SA with "flag is just a flag, while quick trip to the internet will teach you a lot about turnkey.

So again, I ask, for the sake to prove to the overseers that you're honest and not a manipulator, a "snake" if I may borrow someone's word when they saw me interacted with you years ago, that I decide to ignore to give you benefit of doubts: what prompt do you put on the GPT that bear result on #54?

Because it clearly paint different narrative [one that strangely works in your favor, without a clear prompt] while mine come in form of screenshots with clear prompt and questions, one that I think the forum would agree is the acceptable to use AI: to gain better insight and knowledge.

The 30,000 USD has their own thread, so stop "worrying" about it as a facade to your own attempt to throw smoke bomb and flee.

If I can give holydarkness one small advice that would be to ignore that Rat member, that is based on my experience with him.
Few years ago I noticed him selling his snake oil wisdom and he abused trust in my case, but I also heard he was doing some shady things with his list.
I am trying to stay away from reputation board but I had to write something once I saw your topic.

Thank you for your suggestion.

How I wish I can. I ignored this person in hope that I can focus on case mediation, literally put him on ignore that I can't read what he wrote, only to find out that he encouraged members that I am a criminal and that cooperating with me will get them lost their fund. He posted misleading post, conclusion, and suggestion, that put him on ignore poses far greater risk as his "snake oil wisdom" are kept unchecked.

Notblox is back. Only 2 people that have ever stalked me and that’s notblox and Nut. notblox stalked me because I gave his book a “C”.  I have no one on my trust list. It’s lie after lie with you guys.

Probably more will come, following your epic mediation peak performance by "flag time" that clearly show the gross misconduct of a mediator. One thing for sure though: if you keep evading the question, while this thread's purpose is to bury the hatchet and clear everything, I'll have to bill you 1,560,000 USD for your failure in keeping with our agreement.

Remember, "you took the bait again", idiomatically, you consciously entered the agreement.

You're insane. This is a value betting case and look at the questions that you are asking. You aren't right. Worry about the $30k case.

edit - will get the right ones in a few.