Hard Labor/Hard work, opinion on differences?

[Felicity_Tide]

I've got this feeling that doing hard labor doesn't mean working hard, wrong or right?

Of course, you're right. Even without a dictionary, common sense should be enough to figure this out.
A hard labour type of job demands hardwork_(mandatory), but the pay can either be good or as hard as the job itself.
We even see this in our society these days. People working their ass off, doing difficult tasks that wear them out both physically, emotionally, and mentally. And the ugly thing is... Not all hard labour pays well.

I think at the end of the day, you just don't want to find yourself doing any hard labour Job that pays a penny. Those two things literally don't go together, because that's another definition of suffering.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I've got this feeling that doing hard labor doesn't mean working hard, wrong or right?

Edit: Hard labor explained as may not be understandable at first.

My understanding of hard labor, it means work that requires 100% energy before getting a good result. They work that pays less but requires much effort. I may be wrong, but this is what I understand from hard labor. Hard work means putting more effort into what we do to achieve more or attain greater heights. With hard work, the result is not as usual; it is always better than the normal expectation.

I agree with you that hard labor is work that requires 100% energy. But saying that all hard labor comes with low pay is not entirely accurate. There are still manual labor jobs that can provide a high income, but sometime they require experience and carry significant risk.

Oil rig divers, offshore pipeline welder, and nuclear power plant demolition worker all have physically demanding jobs and are classified as hard labor. Most of them earn very high incomes. However, as mentioned, this job requires experience and also carries many risk.

[Etranger]

Oil rig divers, offshore pipeline welder, and nuclear power plant demolition worker all have physically demanding jobs and are classified as hard labor. Most of them earn very high incomes. However, as mentioned, this job requires experience and also carries many risk.

Representatives of such professions can indeed earn a decent living, but it depends heavily on the country where they work. For instance, in Ukraine, these people do not earn much, much like any specialist working for the local economy. We are experiencing a very strong shift where people oriented toward foreign companies earn significantly more than "locals", even if their work is objectively less skilled. For example, I believe that a nuclear power plant demolition worker requires much greater commitment, education, skills, and level of responsibility than a video content creator. However, if you take the example of two people from Ukraine, the latter job allows Ukrainians to earn much more than working at a nuclear power plant.

[Halifat]

I've got this feeling that doing hard labor doesn't mean working hard, wrong or right?

Edit: Hard labor explained as may not be understandable at first.

My understanding of hard labor, it means work that requires 100% energy before getting a good result. They work that pays less but requires much effort. I may be wrong, but this is what I understand from hard labor. Hard work means putting more effort into what we do to achieve more or attain greater heights. With hard work, the result is not as usual; it is always better than the normal expectation.

I agree with you that hard labor is work that requires 100% energy. But saying that all hard labor comes with low pay is not entirely accurate. There are still manual labor jobs that can provide a high income, but sometime they require experience and carry significant risk.

Oil rig divers, offshore pipeline welder, and nuclear power plant demolition worker all have physically demanding jobs and are classified as hard labor. Most of them earn very high incomes. However, as mentioned, this job requires experience and also carries many risk.

I think what Agbamoni is trying to explain here is that, the kind of payment they have been offer depends on the particular organization or where they are working, these people you just mentioned are earning nothing compared to what the people above them are earning. Laborers payment is not the same thing, it varies depends on the organization they are working which was the reason why I will disagree with you, because people that are working in all the places you mentioned, which are offer appointments based on their certificate definitely their earnings will be far higher than what hard laborers are earning. This is how it is in every organization's, the laborers are been pay less compared to what people above them are Collecting.

[tygeade]

There is no difference if you are asking the difference between the words. Work and labour mean almost the same thing, and in this case, if we are talking about "doing it to make money" then it's the same thing in English as far as I know. I mean you have things like "labour of love" type of meanings too, but it is not really the same thing as what we are talking about.

Working super hard on something is important but knowing what you are working towards is even more important, because if someone can do in 30 minutes what you do in 20 hours, then your hard work means nothing. Overall, hard work alone is not enough always, which means that you need to be wiser to convert your works to be done in smarter way with the help of automation or tools or out-sourcing or etc.

[bitgolden]

There is no single way to make it in this life. There is someone out there enjoying his success and wealth because all he did was hard work from morning to till evening, if you should tell him or her that you don't need hard work or labor to make sweet life, they are going to disagree and similarly there are people that had it through soft life and will agree that hard work doesn't guarantee anything in life, as for me whichever work for you enjoy it but don't rub it on anyones face.

Some people had it soft but check very well, there is more to what is been shared. If you have it soft, that means another person has did the hard work for you. There is no where on earth where you can just wake up and have a soft life. If you are enjoying the privilege, then your parents or guardians most have done the hard part and if they didn't do it, their parents must have done it, you just happened to fall in the good side of history while the rest are still looking for way to break their hard part.

That part, is about luck. You can have two people, do exactly the same things, and one of them can get lucky while the other could be very unlucky.

You never know what life will throw at you, and people who do exactly the same things, may not end up with the same results, and that is why it is very important that we end up with results that are basically just very tiresome because you did the same as someone else but they got more than you.

We have to realize, sometimes luck is the only difference.

[Yeesha]

There is no single way to make it in this life. There is someone out there enjoying his success and wealth because all he did was hard work from morning to till evening, if you should tell him or her that you don't need hard work or labor to make sweet life, they are going to disagree and similarly there are people that had it through soft life and will agree that hard work doesn't guarantee anything in life, as for me whichever work for you enjoy it but don't rub it on anyones face.

Some people had it soft but check very well, there is more to what is been shared. If you have it soft, that means another person has did the hard work for you. There is no where on earth where you can just wake up and have a soft life. If you are enjoying the privilege, then your parents or guardians most have done the hard part and if they didn't do it, their parents must have done it, you just happened to fall in the good side of history while the rest are still looking for way to break their hard part.

That part, is about luck. You can have two people, do exactly the same things, and one of them can get lucky while the other could be very unlucky.

You never know what life will throw at you, and people who do exactly the same things, may not end up with the same results, and that is why it is very important that we end up with results that are basically just very tiresome because you did the same as someone else but they got more than you.

We have to realize, sometimes luck is the only difference.

Just because someone failed to succeed here doesn't mean you will not succeed in that particular field or career. That is what we called self-belief and self-awareness, you don't have to develop such mentality because it can hinder one's progress. Even if you failed in the process don't discourage others from trying their luck, because they might be the lucky one. It is actually very very important to focus on your individuality and it is also very crucial to stay optimistic. If you are passionate about something you should go for it, and work very hard until you reach your destination.

[Royal Cap]

That part, is about luck. You can have two people, do exactly the same things, and one of them can get lucky while the other could be very unlucky.

You never know what life will throw at you, and people who do exactly the same things, may not end up with the same results, and that is why it is very important that we end up with results that are basically just very tiresome because you did the same as someone else but they got more than you.

We have to realize, sometimes luck is the only difference.

Just because someone failed to succeed here doesn't mean you will not succeed in that particular field or career. That is what we called self-belief and self-awareness, you don't have to develop such mentality because it can hinder one's progress. Even if you failed in the process don't discourage others from trying their luck, because they might be the lucky one. It is actually very very important to focus on your individuality and it is also very crucial to stay optimistic. If you are passionate about something you should go for it, and work very hard until you reach your destination.

I would say that many times people use the word luck too much to cover up their own bad decisions or lack of consistency. Of course luck is a factor but not all differences can be explained by luck alone, even if they do the same thing, the discipline or risk-taking style of two people is not the same, even though it seems the same from the outside. Also just keep going is not always practical, because sometimes you have to understand where it is worth putting effort and where you need to change direction. Being positive alone will not do everything, you also have to understand your limitations and reality, In my opinion there is luck in success, but if you put all the blame on luck, you will not see your growth properly.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Tomato/Tomahto, there is no difference and most likely none of them will help you with wealth generation that is enough to reach the status of rich.

50 years back it was possible, you can start from zero and keep working 16 hours a day and invest on lands then grow your own crops and sell it for profits but now things are different, you can't even have a comfortable life unless you are previleaged to start the business along with the capital needed for it.

[alani123]

You don't need to be focusing so much on the meaning of individual words because English is a pretty global language and there are regional differences.

Jobs that are physically taxing generally don't pay well historically although there are some notable exceptions.

I'll raise you this: dock workers. A pretty dangerous job due to heavy duty machinery being in your proximity all the time. Weights of tons dangling above your head, large loads etc. This job is not paid well at all in the Filipines for instance. Why? The people there can still die while working and it's also a very taxing job. The difference is that in the Philippines the government has been trying to block and sidelines attempts for unionisation. Spending more effort to crush fights for worker rights than to help its own people.

In countries where dock workers have unionised their salaries are way way above average. These dudes know that the whole economy is based on their labour and they know how to bargain for this. They'll work hard but they want to get paid decently for it. Almost anywhere in Europe where there is a port, dock workers are unionised fighting together for their interests.

Workers doing physically taxing jobs that are not organized for whatever reason are bound to get lower salaries though. Make of that what you will but statistics prove it's true.