Let me tell you the fact, do not waste your time on what you can not win. I think this is how I can make it simple for you. You can not win this because your post is blatantly baseless.
It may be uncommon, not all DT members is Nutildah supporting, but if it is worth it to support, he is going to.
My intention is not to “win”. My intention is to share what I have experienced and witnessed. Regardless of how others will perceive it.
What I have shared and will share is not ‘baseless.’ You have every right to ignore the words and actions—or lack thereof—regarding Nutildah that I present.
I poked my proboscis into this drama kind of late, so I'm not 100% sure what the hell is going on but as far as the above goes, nutildah remains silent on a lot of issues--just like me and tons of other members who choose their battles. If someone were to weigh in on every little thing going on here, they'd probably get called out for burst posting or some such thing.
From what I've read in the threads you've been venting spleen in, you aren't getting much support from the community. That isn't a gang thing, it's not a DT thing, and I doubt it's fear of speaking up. Since I don't have all the facts, I'm not going to slam you, nutildah, Jollygood, or anyone else so don't take this as such: You can keep this up for as long as your outrage lets you, but the community is telling you what they think--either in posts or the absence of same. And if that's true, what ends are being served here?
Let me tell you the fact, do not waste your time on what you can not win. I think this is how I can make it simple for you. You can not win this because your post is blatantly baseless.
Blatantly baseless post(s) or not, I agree with _act_ that this is a battle you're not likely to win. In the end I suspect it's your own reputation that's going to get slaughtered.
Well, I have a few things I’d like to clarify.
I think it’s smart to choose your battles. In fact, I’ve been expecting Nutildah to give me a negative trust for some time and preparing by watching how he interacts with others. So this battle that he chose initially with me is something I have been waiting for.
You are right that I do not often get a lot of public “support.” That does not mean that I don’t have the support or that I am wrong regarding what I present.
Here is what I’ve personally witnessed and experienced here:
A member who criticizes or disagrees with a DT over a matter becomes a target. 🎯 Despite that member only trying to address his or her concerns or having validity.
It’s a dangerous game because once you are on the DT “hit list,” you get littered with red tags from their cronies and alts. This then leads to a weighted perspective regarding reputation and public support on the forum.
It becomes a battle of your own reputation rather than the initial concerns brought up. So it in fact becomes twisted and abused. I am finding that those who are the most “trusted” have gamed the system and are probably not really the most trustworthy members on the forum. This has been experienced by others, not just myself. I will say not all DTs are bad apples. There are several great DT members who do not exhibit the type of behavior I am referring to.
This leads me to “fear.” Many members are wary, unaware, and anxious about picking a side publicly. There is a reason they might not get involved despite having opinions about what is going on or who is “right.” That doesn’t mean you or others are afraid to speak up. It’s a good thing that people do.
I really don’t wish to have these types of issues regarding DT members. I, as well as others, view it as problematic, but I take the time and effort to articulate it even though it often comes at a cost to my account. I do it because I’m not playing the game being played here and I’m not worried about what morons think of me. I’m more concerned that those who are trusted have run off innocent members with unjustified rhetoric and narratives they concoct.
I’m not surprised that there is this type of behavior or hierarchy here. I simply do not support or condone it. I expose it and see through it. I see a lot of sore knees and political status quo defenders that know how truly corrupt the system has become. Instead of defending its integrity, they joined in the coup. It won’t change. I have accepted that. But I won’t stand by while others are attacked for addressing their concerns. I will speak against anyone who thinks it’s okay to run members off the forum without justification beyond they don’t “trust” or like a member.
There is actually a lot more I’d like to add to this response but I’ll keep it short for now unless you decide to respond. — I do appreciate your feedback and sentiment.
You know it is impossible for someone to have an opinion about everything that happens in this forum, right?
Being a DT isn't a paid job. DT members are just voluntarily helping the forum for free. It is impossible to keep track of everything and all forum drama and politics.
I think nuthilda does a great job as a DT member and he will be in my trust list until someone proves he isn't doing a good job anymore.
Yes, I do know that it’s impossible for one to have an opinion about everything that happens on this forum and that DT members don’t get paid.
I see how you may view my point as invalid regarding what Nutildah stays silent about. I’ll be sure to clarify that in the next case I present.
Despite the unpaid position of DT, there is a power that comes with it, and with “great” power comes great responsibility. I will present cases that will articulate the failure of that very responsibility.
You have every right to make your own assessment and decision regarding your trust lists. That’s how it was designed.
I intend to provide more details and cases in which Nutildah has abused or failed in his respective role. It’s up to you whether you agree, disagree, or ignore what gets presented here.
Being a DT member doesn't mean they have to interfere with all of the issues on the forum. It doesn't mean he is protecting himself or his circle. As a forum member we might have a circle; whether they are DT members or not, we may talk to each other and help as well. Doesn't necessarily protect any specific members or write against him.
For me, even as I am a DT member, it's not possible to attend to all of the drama here. It's not worth it to me, and I don't have enough time to look at all the matters here. The DT system works voluntarily on the forum, so it depends on them where they should be silent or where they need to interfere. Shouldn't force anyone to engage in something.
If you have a specific issue with someone and you think you are legitimate, then you are always welcome to open a reputation thread with all the explanations. If someone wants to input, they will do it; if someone wants to be silent, then let them be.
I believe I already articulated where I addressed the concerns you point out in the above response to bitmover, so I will move on. If there is something I missed, feel free to make the point again while trying to avoid redundancy from points already made by others.
I guess you are going to have to open more threads about other DT members as well who don't give attention or get involved in your issues/drama with other DT members on this board. If I were you, I would look into myself and behaviour first. I would first question myself why I get into so many issues with so many people around me.
This is a community. When you find yourself getting more and more isolated or having issues with every other member you come across, then there is a huge problem.
Well, it’s called a guess for a reason. It’s just a guess.
My concern is not over attention, although if your concern is that I am receiving any, then perhaps it would be best to disengage. This thread doesn’t have to be dramatic or insulting. I only wish to share what I’ve witnessed and experienced and for this thread to be informative and factual.
I have done a lot of self-reflection. It’s great advice. Some find it hard to take their own.
