Tovadnok (OP)
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April 05, 2014, 11:56:12 AM |
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I'm having trouble understanding why people still use USB miners like the HexFury.
The price per Gh/s is extremely high and seems to have no chance of breaking even, especially when compared to standalone miners like S1.
What am I missing?
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WetSeals
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April 05, 2014, 12:03:42 PM |
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Probably some people do not have the funds to invest in something better but want to mine as a hobby. Also, some people just do not understand the math part.
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sgk
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April 05, 2014, 12:32:16 PM |
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USB miner people are mostly beginners trying to understand mining process before getting their feet into deeper waters, to see if it really works out for them or not. Imagine a guy who read an article about Bitcoin on Digg and started reading about mining, got interested but rather than investing $10,000 straightaway on a mining rig he would first wants to play safe and see if he can actually go through 'the whole mining thing'.
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April 05, 2014, 01:26:49 PM |
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Exactly! And it also allows for interesting opportunities. I don't mine BTC but I have 5 U2's for shits and giggles hashing away on the blackcoin pool. For the very little $$ they cost its nice to have some SHA hardware available. You never know if something might come along that could make the little bastards profitable. |
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April 05, 2014, 01:59:27 PM |
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Also, a cheap way to play the lotto. Who knows, you may hit a block with one.
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reactor
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April 05, 2014, 02:28:31 PM |
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Exactly! And it also allows for interesting opportunities. I don't mine BTC but I have 5 U2's for shits and giggles hashing away on the blackcoin pool. For the very little $$ they cost its nice to have some SHA hardware available. You never know if something might come along that could make the little bastards profitable. Exactly x2! Plus most vendors are doing what the computer makers did back in the day, scaling up instead of scaling out. Now folks are selling 1TH units like they used to sell 100GH units, however once you go up to that high of a hashrate the power draw becomes something of an issue. For example, I'm east coast US and my power rate is .15 but w/ delivery and taxes it is closer to .29, so running something at 1KW is insane for me. Plus my rental house has a terrible power scheme (and the owners are assholes and won't consider upgrading), so there isn't a single place that is accessible in the house that I can draw 1KW from a single breaker, meaning I physically cannot run a 1TH unit until 1TH units get much, much lower in their power draw. USB's, and even Gridseeds, on the other hand, are smaller, lower power draw, more manageable heat-wise, and can easily be swapped to other coins at a whim. Plus, not a single 1TH unit coming out right now is going to ROI per current network increases and those fuckballs at KNC, so the argument "USB won't ROI" can be replaced with "Mining hardware won't ROI" and you're more accurate. Mining is a shitty place, but some of us like to remain involved.  |
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Wolf_Pack
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April 05, 2014, 02:31:26 PM |
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Some people aren't paying electricity costs, so any return is profit. (If it's already paid for itself, of course)
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MiningSensei
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April 05, 2014, 02:32:43 PM |
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I got into the usb miner game with 1 miner, then eventually 2, then 3 and now i'm up to 9. I realized after a while that if I continue down the addition path, then I would just be better off holding that money until I can afford a bigger miner. USBs are really light fun and good for learning the basics of everything, but if you are going to make it a real thing then maybe try 1 USB first and then go for something bigger.
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billotronic
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April 05, 2014, 04:35:30 PM |
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Plus, not a single 1TH unit coming out right now is going to ROI per current network increases and those fuckballs at KNC, so the argument "USB won't ROI" can be replaced with "Mining hardware won't ROI" and you're more accurate. Mining is a shitty place, but some of us like to remain involved. I'd drink to that sir! |
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novello
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April 05, 2014, 07:38:59 PM |
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I'm sure that the contributors to this thread have amply answered your question, but I'd still assure you that there is a lot of life left in the USB miner concept yet, especially in view of the comment made by WetSeals about people that would like to mine, but have very limited funds, or that made by MiningSensei about how he built up his hashing power ....
Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
Does that proposition make sense to you?
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TheRealSteve
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April 05, 2014, 07:58:29 PM |
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Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
That should easily ROI - depending on actual delivery date, mostly. I wouldn't necessarily call that a USB miner, though, so much as a miner that happens to communicate with a host system over USB. Which is pretty much all of them. Perhaps size-wise it'll be more akin to what's being referred to here than to e.g. a onestring, Hex16, etc. or even the HashBuster micro/nano (small package, but still not exactly 'a USB miner'). I'm looking forward to your announcement, regardless. |
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Tovadnok (OP)
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April 05, 2014, 08:01:21 PM |
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I'm sure that the contributors to this thread have amply answered your question, but I'd still assure you that there is a lot of life left in the USB miner concept yet, especially in view of the comment made by WetSeals about people that would like to mine, but have very limited funds, or that made by MiningSensei about how he built up his hashing power ....
Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
Does that proposition make sense to you?
What is your company called, and how short is shortly? |
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novello
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April 05, 2014, 08:05:04 PM |
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It's called Novello Technologies Limited, we're based in the UK and we hope to make an announcement in the next two weeks. The USB miner isn't the only product, but it will probably be the one that gets most interest.
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Gazza1
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April 05, 2014, 09:17:25 PM |
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I'm sure that the contributors to this thread have amply answered your question, but I'd still assure you that there is a lot of life left in the USB miner concept yet, especially in view of the comment made by WetSeals about people that would like to mine, but have very limited funds, or that made by MiningSensei about how he built up his hashing power ....
Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
Does that proposition make sense to you?
Finally a SHA-256 ASIC manufacturer who has the right idea. If it's legit that is. |
Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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novello
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April 05, 2014, 09:43:32 PM |
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Oh, it's legit all right. You'd have to be a very brave or terminally stupid scammer to make this up. When you read our proposition you can make up your own mind.
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Gazza1
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April 05, 2014, 11:20:28 PM |
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Oh, it's legit all right. You'd have to be a very brave or terminally stupid scammer to make this up. When you read our proposition you can make up your own mind.
Sounds awesome man, I look forward to it. |
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sgk
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April 06, 2014, 04:52:13 AM |
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Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
That's a very bold statement. You've got my attention. Will look forward to the official announcement. |
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slashka
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April 22, 2014, 09:38:06 PM |
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I'm sure that the contributors to this thread have amply answered your question, but I'd still assure you that there is a lot of life left in the USB miner concept yet, especially in view of the comment made by WetSeals about people that would like to mine, but have very limited funds, or that made by MiningSensei about how he built up his hashing power ....
Our company will shortly be offering a 100GH/sec capable USB miner (to get that it has to use the included AC adapter) at substantially under US$75, and no, that's not a misprint. 100 GH/sec at under US$75.
Does that proposition make sense to you?
This is awesome! BUT! U r telling to people that hey r stupid scammers. So... U r a scammer! Why? 1. No profit to your "company". 2. U r blaming others. So, if your words r true, plz provide some samples to bitcointalk users for tests and overviews. That will be a nice advertising and people will b standing in queus to buy some miners from u, because it sounds like u r the most awesome miners producing company. |
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reactor
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April 23, 2014, 12:19:01 AM |
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Oh, it's legit all right. You'd have to be a very brave or terminally stupid scammer to make this up. When you read our proposition you can make up your own mind.
Two requests: 1) Be legit  2) Pull the rug out on Bitmain. Those shitheads don't deserve any more business. |
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