Women are born with value but men create their own value

[Jasmyne]

In the society we find ourselves, it was believed that women are born with value but men have to create their own value, work it out themselves and earn their own part to success.
This has been an old belief but nevertheless this belief has still been in existence.

These are few reasons to this belief:

1. The feminine nature and attribute of women, made the society to believe women are to be treated more special than men, hereby placing more value on them

2. Men are forced to go out and do the hard work, while women remain at home. Women become in charge of taking care of the house, children and childbirth, which means women’s role were centered at childbirth hereby continuing lineage, which made them have more value than men. The men create their own value by going out to work and providing for the household, and they earn value only when they are able to do this things.

3. A man is often judged by what he has achieved, such as money, status, investments, properties, etc to earn value while a woman just need to be married to a man with this achievements to have this things.

4. The men are believed to always be the provider. Even when a man and his partner still work, the man must still be the one providing, which is still placing more value on the woman.   

I believe in our society today, same value and effort should be given to both genders, because the world is now evolving and most of this beliefs is becoming outdated and most women are now working out themselves not to be dependent on any man.

Contributions here will be appreciated to know more reasons to this belief and also if this belief is meant to be or becoming outdated.

[passwordnow]

4. The men are believed to always be the provider. Even when a man and his partner still work, the man must still be the one providing, which is still placing more value on the woman.   

That's the human nature, we as men have to provide for our family and the women even if they have a job and can provide for themselves. It's still about on how you and your partner get to talk about that. Women are also fighting for equalities and they can show what they are capable of. But with men, it's embedded that we should be providers and that's part of masculinity that we have. It is the society that has set this and I think from the ancient times, it's men that have to work and provide but times are changing. There are family setups where in the wife provides for the family and the husband works the things in the home.

[uneng]

It's up to you to choose valuing women like that or not, while also valuing yourself like that or not.

It doesn't have to work that way if you don't want. And if you aren't comfortable with that kind of situation, you are free to look for a woman who have a similar mindset of yours.

Personally, the description of women you mentioned doesn't fit my personal preferences on that matter, and I would prefer remaining alone than putting myself in a situation I wouldn't be satisfied about.

[Findingnemo]

I don't know how they born with the value? It is because of gender or bring baby to the world but the same goes for men, right, if they are not, then babies will not born.

Why men has to do all the hard work is because not just in human the same goes for all the animals the male will take care of their mate but there are many exceptions too, where the female will be leading or providing the security, while men does the job of growing the offspring like in some fish.

[o48o]

Those are beliefs of some red pill incels. If someone really believe what they are saying, then i feel sorry for them. They are literally listening to people who wouldn't get partners without paying for them.

It just makes me sad that young boys think that's life they want to live. Just because they show up in social media with model women? Impressing other man-childs by not growing up and having toxic and narrow set of rules what man and women should be is an opposite of being free.

Good luck finding partner with those values, as men having those values is making me think that certain men's lonely epidemic isn't severe enough.

[Tonimez]

This your analysis was very usual in the stone age when humans were animals. When a man was born stupid and sufferheaded not this modern age when everyone aspire to add values to themselves. Yeah biblically, some of these believes arose from there but in as much as no one could argue the holy books, the female gender have risen against the slavery and servant - master relationship they used to share with the men. We have many reputable women out there now who were never known based on what their husband has or their father. There are also simps who accept your view wholeheartedly as long as they would own control over the women. We grow and we learn always, so everyone is very free to make his choice of life and either choose to be valuable or valueless.

[Joeboy]

I believe in our society today, same value and effort should be given to both genders, because the world is now evolving and most of this beliefs is becoming outdated and most women are now working out themselves not to be dependent on any man.

Contributions here will be appreciated to know more reasons to this belief and also if this belief is meant to be or becoming outdated.

If you are familiar with the creation story then you would know that the Man is the head of the home, and as the head, mist of the responsibilities falls to him...The pressure to provide, pay the bills, make certain decisions are all placed on in the man from the outset... But then again I don't really think it's a good idea for the society to judge men's value based on what they own, coz truth be told, the men are contributing a whole lot of things to the society than they are being acknowledged for... Consider the case of child birth, I don't think it would even be possible for a woman to conceive without the presence of the man, and so biological men are born with value if we see it from this perspective and that alone should be something worthy of value for the male gender...

[Creeper0]

By nature, men are suitable for outside work and women for home work. If you talk about outside, then men have to earn their value and your value is created based on respect and money outside. Women are created to handle the work of the world, so it is natural for women to be more valuable at home.

Even in terms of earning value, women can now stand on the same line as men. But in that case, you may have to lose your masculinity, because taking care of and providing for your partner is also a kind of masculinity. The world is beautiful with women and men together, not by competing with anyone. Even the competition between women and men is not suitable

[Ndabagi01]

I don’t think that modern happening around the world and the trend can change what nature depicts of all this. Men are still the provider regardless of who the woman is or how she came about having her own money to be able to fend for herself. If you don’t want to be under a man, then don’t get married and you’ll do whatever you like as you wish. Being under a man doesn’t mean you’re his slave, but being submissive to him is all is needed to have a good life together.

Many woman misinterprets submissiveness for many negative notions and this has affected a lot of marriages and making ladies now feel the same way about being submissive to their husbands is bad when they’re ready to marry. Societal changes cannot be tolerated in some natural circumstances such as this, so we should not embrace what could cause more harm to the lives of our female children to come in the future about seeing submissiveness as a slavery thing to do.

[Sticky Bomb]

2. Men are forced to go out and do the hard work, while women remain at home. Women become in charge of taking care of the house, children and childbirth, which means women’s role were centered at childbirth hereby continuing lineage, which made them have more value than men. The men create their own value by going out to work and providing for the household, and they earn value only when they are able to do this things.

4. The men are believed to always be the provider. Even when a man and his partner still work, the man must still be the one providing, which is still placing more value on the woman.   

Times have changed bro, women are now taking up careers and proving their worth in their respective careers, and I'll like to add that most women that stay at home are doing that at the request of their husbands and not that they love to stay at home, it is also a natural thing for women as caregivers, that makes them important, but not more valuable than men, men now aid their wives in taking care of the house, so the value is well shared.
Most women are still providers in their own way, not only men in a balanced marriage setting, women support their husbands even financially, that doesn't change the fact that a man should provides for his home I grew up to meet a mother who contributes to our feeding and well being

[Mhizlove]

All this belief is not about cruelty or wickedness, it's just the condition of that time that creates it and life turns out to be hard, the roles to became clear, so this made people attach value based on survival. But you see now, survival don't depend on one gender alone because everyone can learn, build, care, work. And provide be it man or woman, so value isn't supposed to be something that is being inherited from birth, but something that shows through respect, responsibility, and how others are being treated. That's the mindset that is adjusting gradually as the world is changing

[JoyceBTC]

I think no matter how we want to look at it, the men will still continue being the head and the provider, although women this days are trying as much as possible not be liabilities to the man and also support the man and family in any way which possible but that is the way it is just meant to be.
In this our generation now, most women believe not just the men are meant to be the provider, women this days are also showing hard work and doing things that it was believed only men could do before.

[programmer3666]

I think this belief mainly comes from old societal roles where men were expected to provide financially while women were valued more for family, marriage and raising children. That’s why people normally say men must build themselves before society respects them. One good example is that, a man is usually judged by his job, money or achievements before people consider him successful, while a woman may already receive value and attention without those things. But today, the world is changing a lot. Many women now work hard, build businesses and become successful on their own, while many men also take active roles in family life and parenting.

[Royal Cap]

As far as I know a lot of this thinking comes from the old social system. Because when the roles of men and women were very different, men were mainly seen as providers, so their value was measured by success and income but now the situation has changed a lot. Nowadays many women are also handling their careers and financial responsibilities on their own.  So now it is not right to judge a person's value only by gender, In reality a responsible and hardworking person, whether male or female has equal importance. Some old ideas still persist but the new generation is gradually seeing them differently.

[icebar]

Due to various problems, many exceptional examples are created. But, nothing exceptional should be seen as an example. Since the beginning of creation, men and women have been given different responsibilities naturally. This responsibility was not given by any human being. Women will keep the house beautiful, and men will work outside to help keep the house beautiful. This kind of distinction has been made by the Creator. So if we trivialize it as an old-fashioned way of thinking, then it is our own wrong idea. Both men and women have equal roles to make the world beautiful. A woman cannot do what a man can do. Again, a woman cannot be as strong as a man. We have got some such limitations naturally. Therefore, we should respect women and men without comparing them with each other. Because the Creator is always omniscient.

[Agbamoni]

After reading through. I remembered when my Elder sister got admission to a higher institution. We worked hard to get what she wants so that she doesnt lack until she finishes. At the time, I got mine to study. My parents and my Elder sister, in particular, left the burden for me to carry after the first year in higher school. Women indeed have this advantage and favor in real life. While men are left to struggle their way out.

[BADecker]

God creates. Men create. When a woman creates, she is devaluing herself by stepping outside of what she was meant to be/do... looking beautiful, rather than creating.