If you believe in Bitcoin, are you not a bitcoiner?

[FirmWars]

Let debate a little about this topic if it's actually debatable or even made sense the way it does in my head. 
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‎So, I hear some people saying some things like, "if you are not holding Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
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‎"If you don't invest in Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
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‎"If you sell too soon, you are not a true bitcoiner. "
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‎Are all these even valid facts to define who is and who is not a bitcoiner?  (Make it make more sense to me).
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‎Did Satoshi even said so?  people just come up with their own ides and put it out so that more people believe in their idea.
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‎If you believe in Satoshi Nakamoto's invention of Bitcoin and you have used bitcoin and you are still using Bitcoin but not holding it, are you not a bitcoiner?
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‎I don't believe that buying and holding till eternity is what makes you a bitcoiner, neither do I believe that buying and selling too early disqualifies you a bitcoiner. I'm open to learn from your opinions.

[mcdouglasx]

It all depends on how you see it. If for you, being a Bitcoiner means using it frequently or prioritizing its use over other cryptocurrencies or fiat currency, then you'll be a Bitcoiner in your own eyes, regardless of how you use it. On the other hand, there are others who see it philosophically, embodying ideas of freedom, anonymity, and economic control. It's not about an application, but about sharing the core thinking behind Bitcoin's creation. If you're a Bitcoiner, then you are too. But why do you need an explicit label? Just feel comfortable if you feel like one.

For example, for me, it's about the philosophy of Bitcoin and my interest in the technical aspects, where prices and buy/sell/hold strategies don't apply.

[hmbdofficial]

Let debate a little about this topic if it's actually debatable or even made sense the way it does in my head.  
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‎So, I hear some people saying some things like, "if you are not holding Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
‎
‎"If you don't invest in Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
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‎"If you sell too soon, you are not a true bitcoiner. "

Let put all this three questions together and say you’re not a bitcoin investor if you are in any of the mentioned  categories. but if you are using bitcoin and also supporting the network via p2p then you’re definitely a bitcoiner
One way or the other.
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‎Are all these even valid facts to define who is and who is not a bitcoiner?  (Make it make more sense to me).

If you ask me I’ll say those statements are wrongfully used or probably overstretched.

‎Did Satoshi even said so?  people just come up with their own ides and put it out so that more people believe in their idea.

There will always be be different narratives as to who is actually using the bitcoin the right way but the last I check it a decentralized system you are responsible for your bitcoin activities.
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‎If you believe in Satoshi Nakamoto's invention of Bitcoin and you have used bitcoin and you are still using Bitcoin but not holding it, are you not a bitcoiner?

Yes of course you’re are.
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[pawanjain]

Let debate a little about this topic if it's actually debatable or even made sense the way it does in my head. 
‎
‎So, I hear some people saying some things like, "if you are not holding Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
‎
‎"If you don't invest in Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
‎
‎"If you sell too soon, you are not a true bitcoiner. "
‎
‎Are all these even valid facts to define who is and who is not a bitcoiner?  (Make it make more sense to me).
‎
‎Did Satoshi even said so?  people just come up with their own ides and put it out so that more people believe in their idea.
‎
‎If you believe in Satoshi Nakamoto's invention of Bitcoin and you have used bitcoin and you are still using Bitcoin but not holding it, are you not a bitcoiner?
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‎I don't believe that buying and holding till eternity is what makes you a bitcoiner, neither do I believe that buying and selling too early disqualifies you a bitcoiner. I'm open to learn from your opinions.

Why do you even care what others say and believe. Everyone has their own perspective and it doesn't matter if a person is a bitcoiner in one's view or not.
What qualifies for one may not qualify for another. What one person believes in, the other person can disagree with.
If you are using bitcoin or had used it earlier and plan to use it some time in future then you are a bitcoiner.
There's no validity attached to bitcoin. Anyone who embraces bitcoin is a bitcoiner.

[Findingnemo]

When you realized what decentralization is, and have used bitcoin ever they you can be called a bitcoiner. But does getting the validation of bitcoin is really matter? I don't give a shit about what others accept, I know what I am doing, and if someone is giving some advice that I see as worth changing, then I am gonna do it.

[Smartprofit]

Satoshi Nakamoto never wrote anything about "Bitcoiners." He made no demands on people using Bitcoin. 🙋

In fact, Satoshi Nakamoto was only interested in the technology. He didn't seek to create a cult around Bitcoin. That was done by his later followers. For example, laser eye images on social media, Bitcoin-related jargon, memes, the HODL investment strategy, the DCA investment strategy… Satoshi Nakamoto didn't write about such things, simply because they weren't of interest to him.

Satoshi Nakamoto didn't seek to create a cult. He also never wrote anywhere about Bitcoin reaching $1 million in the future.

The HODL strategy, in my opinion, is based on game theory. It's an attempt to create artificial coin scarcity, which should theoretically lead to an increase in the price of Bitcoin. However, in reality, a large number of transactions on the network is more beneficial for the Bitcoin system in the long run.  After all, this generates income for miners, who, in turn, ensure the network's security. So don't worry, Satoshi Nakamoto would approve of your behavior! Or, more likely, he simply wouldn't respond to you and would instead focus on writing code. 💁

[Patikno]

Let debate a little about this topic if it's actually debatable or even made sense the way it does in my head.  
‎
‎So, I hear some people saying some things like, "if you are not holding Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
‎
‎"If you don't invest in Bitcoin, you are not a bitcoiner"
‎
‎"If you sell too soon, you are not a true bitcoiner. "
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‎Are all these even valid facts to define who is and who is not a bitcoiner?  (Make it make more sense to me).

I still stick to my guns, and I would say Bitcoiner, or a true Bitcoiner is someone who sees Bitcoin as incredibly beneficial from every perspective. Whether it is its usefulness in facilitating borderless transactions, its usefulness as a financial instrument or investment, or anything else which might be useful in the future in ways we have never imagined. I think everyone has their own perspective on what "true Bitcoiner, or bitcoiner" is, and there may be debate on that, but I believe what I mentioned at the beginning covers it all (or, including to the conclusion).

Furthermore, I believe a true Bitcoiner will never doubt Bitcoin future; they will see it as having a bright future.