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Today at 03:12:18 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price

A Bitcoin worth $68K 2021 could be higher than a Bitcoin worth $77K today
and many tend not to think about it Same applies to other assets.
We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.

This doesn't mean Bitcoin is failing It's that nominal ATH is different from Real ATH.

Look forward to your opinions and clarity.

For those interested
You can use this site to measure for different currencies
https://inflationglobal.com/en/

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Today at 03:21:29 PM
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We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
I agree with you, but "real value" is a bit deceptive. In economics, all value is subjective and relative. For example, I eat steak every day, and if the price of steak in sats declines overtime, then my purchasing power goes up, even though bitcoin might have declined in value relative to gold in the same period. Still, my purchasing power has gone up. 

Value is relative. Is your dream house declining in bitcoin terms? Then your money is resistant to inflation. In general, though, nearly everything is declining in bitcoin terms overtime.

 
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Today at 03:30:34 PM
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I’ll prefer to measure or think my bitcoin price in term of satoshi instead of  the inflating dollar. Because if you’re holding bitcoin, inflation in dollar is almost something you can’t avoid in it nominal price, but it’s not really having that direct impact on it value or in it’s purchasing power I guess. I don’t know if other are thinking in the direction which I’m looking at the situation.
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Today at 03:35:25 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price

A Bitcoin worth $68K 2021 could be higher than a Bitcoin worth $77K today
and many tend not to think about it Same applies to other assets.
We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.
When we see Bitcoin price, we mostly see its price as it is and don't take inflation rate of fiat currency into account. If Bitcoin price in 2026 is higher than in 2022, four years ago, it's good. If we want to something better, or nearly absolute to measure Bitcoin price growth year by year, taking inflation rate into account is very important.

With most people, it's too complicated and even not too necessary, so if they get profit, good ROI, it's enough for their investment and their wealth. Basically Bitcoin ROI over years is better than what people get from bank savings.

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Today at 03:44:23 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price

We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.

This doesn't mean Bitcoin is failing It's that nominal ATH is different from Real ATH.

This is the reason why when bitcoiniers measure bitcoin they simply tell you that one bitcoin is equivalent to one bitcoin (1 BTC =1 BTC) and this the only correct evaluation of a bitcoin any currency it’s related to is actually doesn’t measures its well although we can make a case for gold as better currency to evaluate it with.

This inflation of the fiat currency has actually been discussed before such that most people are even sure that some pumps we see in bitcoin pair with usd (BTCUSD) are actually just the Dollar actually falling not really the bitcoin then pumping. I could remember when bitcoin first attain the six figure it was actually the USD that was facing devaluation then than bitcoin actually increasing in price because the Euro and other top currencies then weren’t pumping.

This inflation is the sole reason why one needs to have their savings in assets like bitcoin to get an hedge against the inflation

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Today at 03:47:52 PM
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If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.
Do you mean if we are not to measure and account for inflation biitcoin price would be lower than its price that we see today. Let us say that dollar inflation is excluded, bitcoin that is $77000 today supposed to be $75000 if there is not inflation. It is inflation that makes the price to be slightly higher than it should be, but bitcoin increase more from its demand and limited supply.

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Today at 04:24:03 PM
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If we think this way by any chance when Bitcoin price keep stable at $100k for one year it loses its value by 3% which is $3k
So Bitcoin ATH price will also change based on how many years it take to reach.

Then to The actual ATH = nominal ATH x {1 + (inflation rate/100)}Year

So the real ATH will be 133,758.27+  if it takes 2 year with inflation rate 3%
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Today at 04:44:58 PM
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True the purchasing power gradually undergoes inflation and I think this is actually what we bitcoin enthusiast needs. Because reasons been said, as dollars keeps losing value over time even with the artificial current price looking high it's best to say bitcoin price value will eventually grow faster than inflation given a specific period .......

​That's why to me I believe bitcoin is an alternative with significant value  For that, it's easy to say as time goes bitcoin will eventually exempt from dollar's inflation completely......all this are just a matter of time, evolution, and gradual process, that's all....

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Today at 05:28:49 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price
There is a short explanation that I saw about Bitcoin prices and inflation, where we know about the differences, as outlined.
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Bitcoin's Own Inflation: In contrast to fiat currencies (such as other currencies or the Dollar) whose money supply can be printed by the government, Bitcoin's supply is limited mathematically to only 21 million coins. Bitcoin's default inflation rate (emission of new coins) is currently around 1.8% per year and continues to decline.

In short, I can draw one conclusion, Bitcoin can be positioned as a hedge just like gold, where gold is also measured in dollars, but it still has a correlation in maintaining a hedge against fiat/dollar inflation in the long term, as wellinfluence on interest rates.

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Today at 05:37:01 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price

A Bitcoin worth $68K 2021 could be higher than a Bitcoin worth $77K today
and many tend not to think about it Same applies to other assets.
We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.

This doesn't mean Bitcoin is failing It's that nominal ATH is different from Real ATH.

Look forward to your opinions and clarity.

For those interested
You can use this site to measure for different currencies
https://inflationglobal.com/en/


It might be a matter of perspective. Because we are viewing Bitcoin through the lens of a fiat currency, when the fiat starts inflating and becoming more and more worthless, it makes Bitcoin worthless until it catches up by going up in price. This price action is not instantaneous so Bitcoin might be undervalued during that time. But in my experience, Bitcoin has always beaten the fiat inflation. When fiat goes down, Bitcoin goes up.

When the scam called fiat has reached it's inevitable end, Bitcoin's potential value will realize.

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I completely agree with you! Indeed, Bitcoin is currently worth about the same as it was in 2021 (5 years ago!). 🙋

The dollar has depreciated significantly in 5 years. Note that in 2021, Michael Saylor and BlackRock hadn't yet accumulated Bitcoin. And that didn't stop the price from reaching $69,000. Also, there were no spot Bitcoin ETFs (large institutional buyers of Bitcoin) in 2021.

Therefore, from all this, I conclude that Bitcoin is now catastrophically oversold! After all, fiat currencies will continue to depreciate. It's absolutely inevitable... Just look at the size of the US government debt... And also at 30-year US Treasury bonds yielding 5%.

I believe the price of Bitcoin will fluctuate between $200,000 and $500,000 over the next five years. However, I don't rule out the possibility of seeing the price reach $1,000,000 or higher. I believe there are very objective reasons for this.

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Today at 06:34:27 PM
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Why is it that people don't realize that since bitcoin is usually measured in dollar
so inflation affect how we perceive it's price

A Bitcoin worth $68K 2021 could be higher than a Bitcoin worth $77K today
and many tend not to think about it Same applies to other assets.
We tend to focus on nominal value and neglect real value
If we are to measure and account for inflation Bitcoin price would be lower than we see.

This doesn't mean Bitcoin is failing It's that nominal ATH is different from Real ATH.
At least you have 77k in BTC right now, if you had 68k the purchasing power would already be much lower compared with 77k. So this difference is not unique and it does not go unnoticed. I have heard about this comparison around the 2024 halving when the ATH was 69k and a lot of members were saying the new ATH is going to be at least double of it because inflation has cut the purchasing power almost by 50 percent so if you had 100 dollars at that time it would have the purchasing power of 50 dollars by the 2024 halving. But due to BTC that amount could become 200 dollars and your purchasing power would not be affected in fact the inflation rate is not as high in reality as it looks

But the volatility of BTC is higher and that is what benefits the holders and that is how they even make profit after removing inflation effects. Thanks for sharing the site though it is helpful for those who were not aware of this point of view before

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Bitcoin is deflatory asset no matter if inflation goes higher or not Bitcoin will continue to gain value. I know if we count the same in US dollars then things might be a little bit different because US dollar losses its value overtime because of inflation but that's not because of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is still more than $77k in value and that matter more than anything else I believe.

 
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