Girl raped by boys spared jail

[Findingnemo]

The judicial system in each country has loopholes, and criminals use them to get away even after committing a crime. The capital punishment should be given for these kind of crimes and where such laws exists the rapes are close to zero, but we people hate their religion so not interested in their laws as well.

As someone said, their being underage is a reason for not to serve jail time then their parents will take the punishment or the kid should be put in juvenile and then sent to the correctional centre, where there is no difference at all.

[passwordnow]

Some laws are rigged that they have this juvenile protection for the young suspects. They think that it's inhumane and it's only needed to be "rehabilitated" as punishment rather than a crime punishment. The law should protect the victims rather than giving favor to the suspects since they've been proven to do the act. While others will put the blame to the victim, we understand that it had got her but her intention was clear and it's possible that the suspects made their plan prior to her visit.

[Johnlomape]

The law treating minors like they don't know what they are doing but these minors are the ones that are committing one of the most inhuman crime because they know that the court will not sentence them like the way it will be done to full grown adults.
The law need to be revised so that most of these wicked and desperate minors are punished like the way it's going to be done with adults. I still don't understand why they have to rape a gurl that came from a far location to see them with the hope that they can talk ams vibes like partners. This was actually desperate and it's an act of wickedness.

[Aliciaworld]

Girl raped by boys spared jail tells BBC judge's decision was like 'rock in my face'

A teenage girl started a relationship with one of the teenage guys on Snapchat, travelled to visit him but what that happened was that the girl was rapped by the guy and one other guy. The two guys (15 years of age) and one other guy (14 years of age) had also rapped another person before which has also been known in the court.

The worst thing is that they videoed this girl (that see the court order as injustice) and sent the video to social media. This is more than the guys are 15 year teenagers, it is an evil intent.

The court ordered the 15 year defendants to go for three-year youth rehabilitation order (YRO) and the 14 year teenager to go for 18-month YRO.

The victim said why going to court if that is the no punishment that the court will tell the teenagers to go for. Some reputed people are also supporting the victims. I hope the two girls will get justices, it is not about someone to be a teenager, I see the teenagers guys as someone that could have turned to a serial rapists if no court intervention, but the court intervention is not good enough.

What the court is not talking about that we should also talk about
I have to blame what is happening now, why should a girl travelled to someone she does not know before, what if the person will kill her. I have read many news that something like this happened. We should also educate our children very well, I see what the girl did to be very wrong, to travel to someone he did not know and it got to raping her. If she is an adult, probably they will prefer to go to a public place like a restaurant or an eatery.

They should turn 18 and be sentenced or not?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrp98285yvo

well, the offenders are being judged based on their age as per when the incident happened. They're under 18 and are judged as minors based on the assumption that their reasoning ability is not fully developed and thereby immature so the only thing that can be done for these ones is to rehabilitate them. Also parents should do well to  give proper education to their children both sex to avoid such situations so as not to be a victim or an offender

[Karl_3000]

The judicial system in each country has loopholes, and criminals use them to get away even after committing a crime. The capital punishment should be given for these kind of crimes and where such laws exists the rapes are close to zero, but we people hate their religion so not interested in their laws as well.

You may not mean capital punishment. I said that because capital punishment is different from jail and prison, it means sentence to death.

well, the offenders are being judged based on their age as per when the incident happened. They're under 18 and are judged as minors based on the assumption that their reasoning ability is not fully developed and thereby immature so the only thing that can be done for these ones is to rehabilitate them. Also parents should do well to  give proper education to their children both sex to avoid such situations so as not to be a victim or an offender

Their reasoning abilities has not fully developed? If they are all told to enter fire or step on a burning wood, are they going to do that? 14 and 15 year old children should know that gang raping is bad.

[Iranus]

The capital punishment should be given for these kind of crimes and where such laws exists the rapes are close to zero, but we people hate their religion so not interested in their laws as well.

I do not think this measure will be as effective as you expect. As you can see, even the harshest punishment, including the death penalty for crimes such as terrorism, human trafficking, or murder, have never completely eliminated those crimes.

In most cases, the root cause is a lack of education and awareness. In my opinion, alongside strict law enforcement, what matter more is investing in education and raising public awareness from an early stage. We need to address the root cause, not just the symptom.

[o48o]

Let me start by strongly condemning and blaming the the victim for traveling to meet someone you've never met before for the sake of relationship or only God knows her reason. For a teenager to have started exhibiting such bad character at her own age speaks volume of our corrupt our society has gradually become and how bad parenting should be discouraged and corrected.

Am i reading this correctly? You are blaming the child victim here? If so, you make me sick.
Yeah, you don't know the reasoning and if or how much she assessed the situation beforehand and what her safe options were in the first place. She is also a CHILD, whom is easily manipulated by groups. Just like those boys who raped her btw.

But claiming she had bad character to follow them is just insane. Was that bad character that she just saw good in people and trusted them? If that's your take, then i am hoping you aren't raising any kids, unless you are a teenager as well, because you will grow out of that.

Sure, it's parents job to teach kids how to be safe, but you can't prepare them for not trusting anyone, as you won't be growing up healthy that way either. But it's also parents job to teach their boys to respect others and not to rape them, in fact that's freaking essential. So which parents you think should be punished here?

And what comes to those boys, jail or capital punishment won't help anyone, even though i totally understand the feel of needing that. But justice isn't about feelings, but about the law and optimal outcome.

Brains of those boys aren't even developed enough to fully be responsible, just like you don't punish insane people in same way either. But consequences need to be severe enough to be effective, and forced rehabilitation is actually hard mental work, even if some people see it as nothing. Those same people probably haven't done enough emotional work to understand the significance of it. It's way more effective then some Jesus forgives loophole.

Biggest justice would be real rehabilitation, if possible. Where assaulters would be forced to understand what they did, and actually do the emotional work to feel the pain they caused. Because that would be real change in the world and in best cases make them vocal advocates against SA.

[Findingnemo]

The capital punishment should be given for these kind of crimes and where such laws exists the rapes are close to zero, but we people hate their religion so not interested in their laws as well.

I do not think this measure will be as effective as you expect. As you can see, even the harshest punishment, including the death penalty for crimes such as terrorism, human trafficking, or murder, have never completely eliminated those crimes.

In most cases, the root cause is a lack of education and awareness. In my opinion, alongside strict law enforcement, what matter more is investing in education and raising public awareness from an early stage. We need to address the root cause, not just the symptom.

Create awareness, educate people, feed them some common sense which all are important but those are long term process, if you want them to stop then it is possible with fear, let the criminals know that they are not getting away with by killing them in public place just soon after they found guilty then I doubt many will dare to do that again, it will not be zero but that will drastically reduce.

People involve in those crime only because they know, they can use the loopholes in the law to delay it for year or even break the case with high paid lawyers.

[Kavelj22]

Alot of times rape and similar violations could be a consequence of being sexually promiscuous. It's important that kids are taught to avoid sex before marriage. Nevertheless, if it was indeed promiscuity then the rape is enough punishment for the girls, the attackers deserve equal or higher punishments such as forced labor or caning, which should be done publicly for the public humiliation of the victim/victims.

This is the first time I read such a disgusting post in bitcointalk. A person who justifies rape and sees it as a fair punishment for a reckless act is a dangerous person and should be avoided or dealt with with extreme caution. Someone who is giving justifications for criminals to rape minors when they do the mistake of traveling after influencing their minds. In an honest juridiction system, you should go to the court for posting this speech encouraging rape.

I think the rape victims may have refused sex due to the filming.  They likely made up their minds to offer sex before the visitation since agreeing to meet the opposite genders in private typically suggest accepting to engage in sexual intercourse. So her grievances was likely in the filming otherwise she may have accepted the relationship. The reciprocity of the punishment should be focused more on the public humiliation, if they refused while being punished they could be forced

I can't find words to describe how much your thoughts are disgusting. You should go to a doctor after forbid you from using social media. I was surprised that nobody replied to the garbage in your post.

[Iranus]

Create awareness, educate people, feed them some common sense which all are important but those are long term process, if you want them to stop then it is possible with fear, let the criminals know that they are not getting away with by killing them in public place just soon after they found guilty then I doubt many will dare to do that again, it will not be zero but that will drastically reduce.

People involve in those crime only because they know, they can use the loopholes in the law to delay it for year or even break the case with high paid lawyers.

Not everyone is intelligent or knowledgeable enough about the law to exploit legal loopholes. I even believe that many criminal have never read about any laws in their lives. Most juvenile crime comes down to a lack of awareness and a lack of guidance.

That is why I think we need to invest in education and raise awareness early on if we want to thoroughly address this problem.

No offense, but that is also why this situation is much less common in developed countries. It happen more often in developing countries, and the difference lies in awareness.

[Queen uloma]

Alot of times rape and similar violations could be a consequence of being sexually promiscuous. It's important that kids are taught to avoid sex before marriage. Nevertheless, if it was indeed promiscuity then the rape is enough punishment for the girls, the attackers deserve equal or higher punishments such as forced labor or caning, which should be done publicly for the public humiliation of the victim/victims.

I think the rape victims may have refused sex due to the filming.  They likely made up their minds to offer sex before the visitation since agreeing to meet the opposite genders in private typically suggest accepting to engage in sexual intercourse. So her grievances was likely in the filming otherwise she may have accepted the relationship. The reciprocity of the punishment should be focused more on the public humiliation, if they refused while being punished they could be forced

For me, rape does not have any excuse. Whether the person is sexually active or not, no one has the right to force someone to have sex with them. That is why consent is the most important thing before doing anything. And consent can also change at any time. Even if two people decide to meet in a private place that does not automatically means that they agree to have sex. I don’t think if anyone was supposed to assume what the victim plan before the meeting. the main issue is the force, intimidation and lack of consent that happened, this alone shows that it’s a crime. People who commit rape are suppose to face serious punishment because they broke the law and according to the law rape is not a small offense. The focus is for justice to prevail and for them to hold the offender responsible for his action. not blaming the victim of what happened.

[Iamgoat]

For me, rape does not have any excuse. Whether the person is sexually active or not, no one has the right to force someone to have sex with them. That is why consent is the most important thing before doing anything. And consent can also change at any time. Even if two people decide to meet in a private place that does not automatically means that they agree to have sex. I don’t think if anyone was supposed to assume what the victim plan before the meeting. the main issue is the force, intimidation and lack of consent that happened, this alone shows that it’s a crime. People who commit rape are suppose to face serious punishment because they broke the law and according to the law rape is not a small offense. The focus is for justice to prevail and for them to hold the offender responsible for his action. not blaming the victim of what happened.

But I also want to ask us a question. Are teanagers supposed to be having private meetings and having such kinds of hangouts without the proper consent of both parents of the parties involved? I thought as a teenager, a child is still in the full custody of the parents and should be monitored closely by their guardians. When a teenager is stepping out of the house, the parents are meant to ask properly to understand clearly where they are heading to being it a female or male teenager becuase even the males are not safe from being exposed to such incidents too but at least parents are supposed to put a very close look such as asking the child where they are going and requesting the child to call the other person they are going to meet before and after they got there, and this is if they even know the person and not just allow them to move so freely. This is why they are called teenagers and not adults because we believe even as a teenager, a child has not finished understanding the best approach to control themselves and events around them, so you are supposed to keep a close eye on them. I am not even blaming the victim at all, I am pushing blames to both parents of the victims and the perpetrators because it could just be that the perpetrators were practicalising the bad behaviors they have learnt somewhere else. May God protect our family and younger ones.

[Dunamisx]

It comes to relationship matters, I try to be as fair be as patient as possible and not be one-sided because you won't know when things are going smoothly and well with those involved until things get out of hand before we hear each side of this story, you will wonder in other cases that someone may be feeling a serious challenge and be maltreated, yet determined to stay and not go

There is a kind of commitment Bond when you see people share relationship together and they are deeply involved with each other, some things go far beyond just the casual feelings, but they are emotion are so tied to each other that they cannot afford to separate.

[Roseline492]

For me, rape does not have any excuse. Whether the person is sexually active or not, no one has the right to force someone to have sex with them. That is why consent is the most important thing before doing anything. And consent can also change at any time. Even if two people decide to meet in a private place that does not automatically means that they agree to have sex.

We don't no all the mystery concerning how there relationship turn into raped but however from all the explanation op has given concerning them, full Legal action should be taking against the 15 years old and the 14 years because raping is not an action a court should treat gently regardless of this age they are and besides is already serious and a habit those boys have started since they have also rape another girl before, so actually if the justice does not remind them of how Intolerable rape is they would still rape more girls they come encounter with. With the age of the girl she also deserve a lot of blame for leaving her home to visit someone.

[Akbarkoe]

What is happening here is moral corruption, the decline of parental supervision and also the firmness of the law on regulating educating underage rape cases.
 
But what I criticize the most is the supervision of parents who increasingly allow their children to roam to meet a man they know on social media, and also the parents of the rapist, this is really disgusting and is a failure of parents in protecting their children.

[Sticky Bomb]

The court ordered the 15 year defendants to go for three-year youth rehabilitation order (YRO) and the 14 year teenager to go for 18-month YRO.

The victim said why going to court if that is the no punishment that the court will tell the teenagers to go for. Some reputed people are also supporting the victims. I hope the two girls will get justices, it is not about someone to be a teenager, I see the teenagers guys as someone that could have turned to a serial rapists if no court intervention, but the court intervention is not good enough.

What the court is not talking about that we should also talk about
I have to blame what is happening now, why should a girl travelled to someone she does not know before, what if the person will kill her. I have read many news that something like this happened. We should also educate our children very well, I see what the girl did to be very wrong, to travel to someone he did not know and it got to raping her. If she is an adult, probably they will prefer to go to a public place like a restaurant or an eatery.

They should turn 18 and be sentenced or not?

I believe the court had no other option than giving them such sentence on the account of their being minors, minors cannot get a major sentence. Personally I condemn what they do since they are only attempting to grow up becoming serial rapists, but the law is not dependent on emotions, so their sentence is right for their respective ages.

I've seen such cases revisited when the kids turned adults and them sentenced properly, maybe it is a good option to serve as a proper deterrence against the younger ones picking on such criminal acts as a fun activity. I believe travelling to meet someone in a private apartment for the first time is stupid, what happened to public places? the girl acted out of common sense.

Additionally, we don't have the clips to verify she was really raped, or she started a drama when the boys released the videos they made. It took her 6 months to speak up that she was raped, such a long time to convince herself she needed justice.

[PostQuantumBTC]

I believe the court had no other option than giving them such sentence on the account of their being minors, minors cannot get a major sentence. Personally I condemn what they do since they are only attempting to grow up becoming serial rapists, but the law is not dependent on emotions, so their sentence is right for their respective ages.

I've seen such cases revisited when the kids turned adults and them sentenced properly, maybe it is a good option to serve as a proper deterrence against the younger ones picking on such criminal acts as a fun activity. I believe travelling to meet someone in a private apartment for the first time is stupid, what happened to public places? the girl acted out of common sense.

Sentence is used for death, someone posted that recently on this thread.

It will be better the case is revisited so that they can be sent to prison, I think 2 years in prison will be good after they become adult, but I know some family will continue to beg the victim family for forgiveness, that may later change that from happening, but the victim family are still very angry.

[HelliumZ]

The teenagers needed to be punished because why did they dare to do such a heinous act at such a young age? If the teenagers are released without punishment, then later they will do even bigger things. The biggest thing is that if the rapists are not punished, they will never give importance to any law and they will accept the crime as a very small matter and commit even bigger heinous criminal acts.
Moreover, the girl should also be punished because if the girl went to meet the boys without knowing them on social media, in this case, who would be responsible if a really big unwanted incident happened to the girl.

[Roseline492]

I believe the court had no other option than giving them such sentence on the account of their being minors, minors cannot get a major sentence. Personally I condemn what they do since they are only attempting to grow up becoming serial rapists, but the law is not dependent on emotions, so their sentence is right for their respective ages.

People actually have what they see as a punishment or sentence and if the Court action doesn't say how they want it, it is considered as something that's not enough to go with what they did, so actually the sentence that naturally suits this crime is prison for some years because that's the best way they could learn well but however if the court decision is to take them to the youth rehabilitation center to get psychologically treated is also not a bad court order because there are some actions from people that we could be seeing as something that deserve a severe punishment but we wouldn't no that the person is a psychopath.

[DYOR+BTC]

The teenagers needed to be punished because why did they dare to do such a heinous act at such a young age? If the teenagers are released without punishment, then later they will do even bigger things. The biggest thing is that if the rapists are not punished, they will never give importance to any law and they will accept the crime as a very small matter and commit even bigger heinous criminal acts.
Moreover, the girl should also be punished because if the girl went to meet the boys without knowing them on social media, in this case, who would be responsible if a really big unwanted incident happened to the girl.

Among everything on earth, why do they choose to learn something as dangerous as this at this early stage of there life, especially now they are supposed to be working towards developing and building a better future for themselves. When I first saw the news I was very confused and at the same time weak because I never knew children of such age could go as far as getting to do such unbelievable thing at this young age. To me I will say they don't deserve to be freed without been severely punished because the only thing that will make them deviate from that is when they are thought a lesson they can never forget.