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May 26, 2026, 01:30:54 PM
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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

It's normal with big whales, they always like to influence a short term dip so weak hands would chicken out and they'll buy more during the dip, that's same thing I think that's same thing Mark Cuban tried doing "by declaring that he's dumped all his holdings" knowing fully well that many head hands would chicken out since a figure like him is dumping.
 Only those who are not aware of that pattern would be suprised that strategy wants to sell off to pay dividends after advocating for long-term holding. Although I believe the company has been holding for long and can decide to sell off some portions since they're consistent with buying and would still replace what they sold.

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May 26, 2026, 04:20:18 PM
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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.
i get your point but what if he was truly diversifying ?
let's not act like we've got everything figured out in our head and stop judging or drawing conclusions so suddenly.

i understand where you are coming from and what you are saying because you think he wants to create some sort of fear in  the minds of holders so they can panic sell and making the price drop before he can buy more i guess but don't you also think that, the community of holders have grown stronger than it used to be that a single message from a particular holder can't actually make so much impact on the market again ?

i think michael is already a smart investor and he should know that, it would be very difficult for bitcoin to break below $70k or is there something i'm missing out ?

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May 26, 2026, 04:41:23 PM
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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

In my opinion, for Michael Saylor, selling Bitcoin is like a farmer slaughtering a cow he planned to milk for a bucket of milk. In his fiat Ponzi scheme, Bitcoin is the cow (the underlying asset). Stocks, bonds, and derivatives are the milk. 🙋

If the farmer harms the cow (for example, by hitting it on the head with a club), he could have problems producing milk. It doesn't matter what club he uses: verbal interventions aimed at driving down the price of Bitcoin or actual selling of Bitcoin.

At the same time, I categorically disapprove of Michael Saylor's goals of accumulating large amounts of Bitcoin and removing them from circulation. Only someone who completely misunderstands the fundamental value of Bitcoin could set such goals.  To me, Michael Saylor is a Wall Street adventurer (i.e., a man who will sooner or later suffer the same fate as the Hunt brothers). 🙆

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May 26, 2026, 09:58:57 PM
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It's possible that he wants both of it, to make the price fall but at the same time to pay the dividends so which means it's both advantage for him on this scenario.
No, that idea cannot be right. Strategy has been buying BTC for more than five years now and they have been making these purchases irrespective of what the price is or the market condition. So it is wrong to believe he is trying to manipulate the market to get 'cheap' coins right now. I and a lot of others disgaree.

This kind of idea usually originates when people overthink what whales and big companies say or do with their coins.
Yes, I know that. It's just a thought that came in since others are thinking that it is what he was doing. So feeding them with that thought is just a scenario. That's okay if you disagree with that and I also understand you. But you said it right that this thought makes people overthink so much that they are caring for others action and not to themselves. Because what they should do when the market is on a correction, they have to focus on their own holdings and not to MSTR, Saylor's or any other firms which are known to hold a lot of Bitcoin.

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May 27, 2026, 09:09:07 AM
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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

In my opinion, for Michael Saylor, selling Bitcoin is like a farmer slaughtering a cow he planned to milk for a bucket of milk. In his fiat Ponzi scheme, Bitcoin is the cow (the underlying asset). Stocks, bonds, and derivatives are the milk. 🙋

If the farmer harms the cow (for example, by hitting it on the head with a club), he could have problems producing milk. It doesn't matter what club he uses: verbal interventions aimed at driving down the price of Bitcoin or actual selling of Bitcoin.

At the same time, I categorically disapprove of Michael Saylor's goals of accumulating large amounts of Bitcoin and removing them from circulation. Only someone who completely misunderstands the fundamental value of Bitcoin could set such goals.  To me, Michael Saylor is a Wall Street adventurer (i.e., a man who will sooner or later suffer the same fate as the Hunt brothers). 🙆

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the OP.

Saylor isnt going to jeopardise his Bitcoin business model by driving the market down. What has he to
gain from that? he already buys in the Bull market at whatever price on a scheduled date. Anyway the
market can drive itself down all by itself - its called Bear markets and it happens in every Bitcoin cycle.

Anyway he would loose all remaining credibility with the Bitcoin community if he was found out to do that.

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May 27, 2026, 01:21:29 PM
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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

In my opinion, for Michael Saylor, selling Bitcoin is like a farmer slaughtering a cow he planned to milk for a bucket of milk. In his fiat Ponzi scheme, Bitcoin is the cow (the underlying asset). Stocks, bonds, and derivatives are the milk. 🙋

If the farmer harms the cow (for example, by hitting it on the head with a club), he could have problems producing milk. It doesn't matter what club he uses: verbal interventions aimed at driving down the price of Bitcoin or actual selling of Bitcoin.

At the same time, I categorically disapprove of Michael Saylor's goals of accumulating large amounts of Bitcoin and removing them from circulation. Only someone who completely misunderstands the fundamental value of Bitcoin could set such goals.  To me, Michael Saylor is a Wall Street adventurer (i.e., a man who will sooner or later suffer the same fate as the Hunt brothers). 🙆

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the OP.

Saylor isnt going to jeopardise his Bitcoin business model by driving the market down. What has he to
gain from that? he already buys in the Bull market at whatever price on a scheduled date. Anyway the
market can drive itself down all by itself - its called Bear markets and it happens in every Bitcoin cycle.

Anyway he would loose all remaining credibility with the Bitcoin community if he was found out to do that.

Saylor does not have anything to gain for pushing the market down, because he's not actually trading his Bitcoin for short term. Their investment model is based on consistent accumulation then  hold it up for long term.

He buys on both bearish and bullish market situations, so those assumptions that he want to drive the market down is really invalid. If it really happens that he try to manipulate people. For sure that he might going to lose the trust of people and this situation is not good with their business.

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May 27, 2026, 01:56:26 PM
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This is 2026, and any bitcoiners who still trust in believing any statement made by these people who were once against Bitcoin before seeing the technology as something that can't be destroyed due to how it holds the future of finance, and has the potential to save them from possible government unbanks in the future, are not meant to be in the BTC space.

Michael Saylor has been a motivation to many Bitcoiners because of his aggressive Bitcoin model. Many institutions have also adopted his strategy. Some are doing well while other companies have sold off their holding. He has also contributed his quota to Bitcoin awareness and adoption.

It is a fact in the forum that we should do our research before making any investment decision. Depending on information from institutional investors, like Strategy to make a decision is wrong. We should always see Bitcoin as an independent asset that doesn't depend on any governemnt or institution to succeed.

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May 27, 2026, 02:49:20 PM
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This is 2026, and any bitcoiners who still trust in believing any statement made by these people who were once against Bitcoin before seeing the technology as something that can't be destroyed due to how it holds the future of finance, and has the potential to save them from possible government unbanks in the future, are not meant to be in the BTC space.

Michael Saylor has been a motivation to many Bitcoiners because of his aggressive Bitcoin model. Many institutions have also adopted his strategy. Some are doing well while other companies have sold off their holding. He has also contributed his quota to Bitcoin awareness and adoption.

It is a fact in the forum that we should do our research before making any investment decision. Depending on information from institutional investors, like Strategy to make a decision is wrong. We should always see Bitcoin as an independent asset that doesn't depend on any governemnt or institution to succeed.

Yes, Michael Saylor is currently very actively encouraging people to buy Bitcoin. People consider him a Bitcoin maximalist. However, we've seen many such Bitcoin evangelists in the past... 🙋

For example, Roger Ver was exactly that kind of Bitcoin evangelist. He was incredibly popular. He so actively encouraged people to buy Bitcoin that he earned the nickname "Bitcoin Jesus." However, this didn't stop him from organizing an attack on Bitcoin in the fall of 2017 with Jihan Wu and actively promoting his own coin (Bitcoin Cash). After that, he became known as "Bitcoin Judas."

By the way, I don't rule out the possibility that Michael Saylor will no longer be perceived as a Bitcoin maximalist in the future. It seems to me that Michael Saylor is primarily interested in generating revenue in US dollars for his company.  His business is based primarily on his mastery of traditional financial instruments (stocks, bonds). For example, he positions his stocks as a financial asset more valuable than Bitcoin. That's why, for Michael Saylor, deferring bond payments is far more important than buying more Bitcoin.🤷

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May 27, 2026, 04:03:40 PM
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What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.
Yes, we often see Michael Saylor, he often expresses various views on Bitcoin, I'm sure Saylor is different from the others, I think he is optimistic about Bitcoin, The proof is that he regularly adds or buys Bitcoin, but the advantage is that his company is smart in managing the time and buying when the Bitcoin price is lower.

I'm sure Saylor is not influenced by the news, they have their own Bitcoin accumulation strategy that they can rely on and they are consistent in investing in Bitcoin for the long term. If you follow developments regarding Saylor and Bitcoin, he is actually a Bitcoin asset for the long term, let alone the current price, the current market is their target every week.

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Too much effort for a small gain since Strategy has DCA'd all the way until their average sitting around $75,000. Fudding its own bug would be dumb and create internal panic.

Instead they keep buying routinely which means they are doing the opposite of what you just described.

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Today at 08:10:07 AM
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If he wanted to manipulate the price of BTC and cause a fall, then maybe he should have just sold some of their BTC holdings, that sounds like a more effective method of manipulation. Tongue Tongue
Making people panic... and Saylor's manipulation was more effective.

Personally, i don't think he is trying to manipulate the market. Though bitcoiners should understand that a day would come when they would sell some of their coins, doesn't matter how long it'll take, it is bound to happen.
Whenever his tweets that do not support the purchase of bitcoin will become controversial and the material of other big news explosions, until finally it becomes widespread FUD, then this is often considered manipulation.

I will just watch, and don't care what Saylor will do while he sells his bitcoin. Cheesy

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Whales and institutional leaders in financial world know impact of the words they say. Selling unobtrusive bit of bad or unsounded news is spectacular trick to rattle the paper hands, form temporary trough, and open utopian 'buy the dip' outlook on themselves.
I think that it is absolutely reasonable that theory of them seeking inexpensive way of entry makes sense, but we also must consider company structure. Purchasing Bonds or dealing with dividend, is at times simply legal and monetary obligation to retain traditional shareholders satisfied. When they are publicly distributing disappointing news yet you don’t notice any alteration in their long term accumulation pattern, then it is most probable that they were playing psychological game to help them move short term price as they are working on loading more Bitcoin at discount.

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I highly doubt it. If we look at each time he announced buying Bitcoin, one could easily see that it's not calculated at all. So if he wanted to do that, he would've done it before but instead, he just buys bitcoin aggressively, at all times.

It's also best to announce that they're going to sell some BTC, as opposed to just selling and people figuring it out through onchain data
It is true that we know Saylor, and Strategy that they buy Bitcoin not considering whether it is in dip or not and it has been their trademark of being the real deal DCA accumulator but I also know that the narrative has changed since Saylor hinted about selling some of Strategy's stash. Bitcoin dip is not palatable for anybody or institutions that have as much Bitcoin as Saylor and Strategy but I also know that FUD wouldn't be out of place if they want to create panic for price to dump more so they would mop it all up when it happens. This could be the trying time for Strategy, for them to change their narrative to sell some of their Bitcoin but I know that no matter what happens we know that Bitcoin has the potentials to recover after all the drama.

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I know he has been saying good things about bitcoin in a way he will not like the price of bitcoin to fall, but recently he said the company can sell some bitcoin to pay dividends, but he posted not quite long ago that they bought bonds this time and not bitcoin.

What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

It is entirely possible that a company with such capabilities regarding Bitcoin manipulation could have used them repeatedly. But over the years I have seen a completely different picture, they were buying in all market conditions. Even when Bitcoin was at its highs, they were still buying it at $120,000 and, I believe even higher.

Therefore, saying that Saylor is trying to manipulate the price in order to buy cheaper might be possible, but personally I am very skeptical about that. I think he believes too strongly in Bitcoin to try to gain a small advantage on price during accumulation.

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Today at 10:23:40 AM
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What if he only want bitcoin price to fall a little so that he can buy at a lower price? Testing how the market may react to their disappointing news.

This is not new any longer because a lot of crypto influencers have being doing this same strategy to clog the internet with breaking news and try to cause the market a shift, once they achieve their goal for the market to fall, then you take advantage of buying while when it's rises they also take the opportunity of selling, but in his case, I want to believe there are times he also buy when the market is still not falling as we may think of it, I don't want to conclude my approach that has statement released could cause a major trigger to the market fall.

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Today at 10:47:35 AM
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Well in theory Michael Saylor or Strategy as whole just want profit at the end of they day dont be so naive guys some of us hold bitcoin because want to take profit when the price is enough and is just the same with company like strategy and other. I found an article online that Bitcoin mining farm that listed on US is aggresive selling 1 because they pay their operation 2 they want to move into AI but what is the reason take profit is take profit.

For now as I remember saylor will keep buying because they had enough cash to pay dividend and to buy more bitcoin

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Today at 11:56:56 AM
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The issue with funding is where the weakness in this thesis lies. The funds rely on ATM sales of their MSTR stock alongside issuance of preference shares for acquiring their BTC. This happens by first selling their MSTR stocks and using the money to acquire BTC. It makes sense when MSTR is trading at a price higher than its BTC-per-share price, meaning that they will always want a high price for both MSTR and BTC, not low.
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